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Multibidding output is a joke

Nicky33
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Have you even tested this system? It is a total mess right now. What a shame...
  • Gariele
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    The idea of 10 kiosk multibidding was a joke to begin with. The server barely handled trader swaps as is now trying to process all the new bids have left the traders in flames
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  • sylviermoone
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    Nicky33 wrote: »
    Have you even tested this system? It is a total mess right now. What a shame...

    It was tested as well as it could have been on the PTS, which obviously doesn't get anywhere near the traffic of the live server. The lack of testability was brought up repeatedly during the PTS cycle.
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  • Nicky33
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    Current situation with traders is unacceptable. Everything that could go wrong - went wrong. Guild ui is showing that the guild owns a trader, while the trader is taken by another guild. Gold got to the guild banks in amounts 4-5 times larger than the guilds had before bids. All major hubs on PC EU are full of pve/pvp guilds with zero listings. It doesn't add any motivation to invest more time in this game...
  • idk
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    Nicky33 wrote: »
    Current situation with traders is unacceptable. Everything that could go wrong - went wrong. Guild ui is showing that the guild owns a trader, while the trader is taken by another guild. Gold got to the guild banks in amounts 4-5 times larger than the guilds had before bids. All major hubs on PC EU are full of pve/pvp guilds with zero listings. It doesn't add any motivation to invest more time in this game...

    This looks like the beginning of good information. I suggest detailing it out for Zos though I would suggest using trader names vs guild names so Zos knows where to look.
  • Nicky33
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    Here is one of examples I found in discord - Same trader owned by one guild in UI and by another guild in fact:
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    unknown-1.png
  • OsManiaC
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    Nicky33 wrote: »
    Have you even tested this system? It is a total mess right now. What a shame...

    many people gave feedback in Pts thread but zos did not listen as trading is not their first things to fix in their list.

    this was expected, even +2 minutes there is a lag spike. with multibidding number of bids in one kiosk increased and BAM

    so let me tell how it happened
    - server cannot handle the multi bidding for first minutes
    - time passed
    - all kiosks gone free as it supposed to be after 5 minutes
    - people got 10k spots
    - system started working, but not effectively as spots already claimed
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  • Blobsky
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    Other thing worth mentioning is that some guilds could NEVER hire - I was probably one of the first to notice some guilds could hire a backup as we were already prepared for something weird and had bidders ready... But only 2 of my 3 guilds could hire - The rest said we already had a trader
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  • Nicky33
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    Blobsky wrote: »
    Other thing worth mentioning is that some guilds could NEVER hire - I was probably one of the first to notice some guilds could hire a backup as we were already prepared for something weird and had bidders ready... But only 2 of my 3 guilds could hire - The rest said we already had a trader

    Yes, this is true. It seems that UI started to show winning bids starting from the largest amounts.That's why so many top guilds have no traders at all.
  • SammiSakura
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    Blobsky wrote: »
    Other thing worth mentioning is that some guilds could NEVER hire - I was probably one of the first to notice some guilds could hire a backup as we were already prepared for something weird and had bidders ready... But only 2 of my 3 guilds could hire - The rest said we already had a trader

    this is something that I also noted
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  • Thorvarg
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    Blobsky wrote: »
    Other thing worth mentioning is that some guilds could NEVER hire - I was probably one of the first to notice some guilds could hire a backup as we were already prepared for something weird and had bidders ready... But only 2 of my 3 guilds could hire - The rest said we already had a trader

    Didn't you get a compensation? I heard of 1.3 billion (Milliarden) gold refunded to you. ;)
  • Blobsky
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    Seems the NA server worked as normal
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    Edited by Blobsky on August 19, 2019 1:18AM
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  • Thorvarg
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    Sorry that you deleted your answer regarding the 1.3 billion, especially since you said that that is not much gold for you. :/
  • Tigerseye
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    Nicky33 wrote: »
    Here is one of examples I found in discord - Same trader owned by one guild in UI and by another guild in fact:
    20190819_020503.png
    unknown-1.png

    Yep.

    Most of the spots seem to be taken by guilds that don't normally own them, which would of course be fine, if they won them fairly, except both the guild UI and the TTC website think they are still owned by the regular guild.
    Edited by Tigerseye on August 19, 2019 2:10AM
  • generalmyrick
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    I'll wait for zos to make a statement.

    This sounds like fear mongering.

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  • Gariele
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    3 of my 4 guilds were able to hire a random trader, but my main guild was locked and could not hire anything, now another guild sits on a trader that it says i own, My mail is full of Guild Trader Won mails, but my tabard is not on the trader.
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  • generalmyrick
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    Patience
    "The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:

    Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
    Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"

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  • Dont_do_drugs
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    Patience

    for what. till the last gm turned his ill gained gold into mats, moving his gold into the ecenomy, so zos cant track the way of the gold and take it away again?

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    They can only bla-bla and waste gold on feeding their ego. I am disappointed."

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  • rumple9
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    Zos never learns. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Fix the servers and poor performance instead
  • Cloudless
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    Thorvarg wrote: »
    Sorry that you deleted your answer regarding the 1.3 billion, especially since you said that that is not much gold for you. :/

    In that case feel free to send me anything ranging from 1m to 10m, @Cloudless, EU server, kthx
  • Synnastix
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    Another bullet point in the argument for a central auction house.
  • Mrs_Malaka
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    idk wrote: »
    Nicky33 wrote: »
    Current situation with traders is unacceptable. Everything that could go wrong - went wrong. Guild ui is showing that the guild owns a trader, while the trader is taken by another guild. Gold got to the guild banks in amounts 4-5 times larger than the guilds had before bids. All major hubs on PC EU are full of pve/pvp guilds with zero listings. It doesn't add any motivation to invest more time in this game...

    This looks like the beginning of good information. I suggest detailing it out for Zos though I would suggest using trader names vs guild names so Zos knows where to look.

    And then they'll tell you "We're aware of the current situation and we're looking into it" *radio silence*
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  • Dont_do_drugs
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    I guess nobody needs to explain anymore what happened. There were multiple threads and Gina already commented that they will look into it 😅

    Get Stuff like this (but not this stuff)


    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    "I have too admit. People leading trade guilds in this game are quite stupid. Not stupid like fools, but stupid like leaders.
    They can only bla-bla and waste gold on feeding their ego. I am disappointed."

    Egal, wie gut du Schach spielst, die Taube wird alle Figuren umwerfen, auf das Brett kacken und herumstolzieren, als hätte sie gewonnen.

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  • Thorvarg
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    Cloudless wrote: »
    Thorvarg wrote: »
    Sorry that you deleted your answer regarding the 1.3 billion, especially since you said that that is not much gold for you. :/

    In that case feel free to send me anything ranging from 1m to 10m, @Cloudless, EU server, kthx

    You should read more attentively. The word "you" doesn't mean "i, me". ;)
  • OsManiaC
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    if you take
    I guess nobody needs to explain anymore what happened. There were multiple threads and Gina already commented that they will look into it 😅

    I did not see any feedback since 12 hours
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  • Ackwalan
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    Seemed to go rather smooth on PC NA. I saw the normal guilds in their regular spots. Of course I did not check all the traders, but there was nothing in zone chat either.
  • Cloudless
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    Thorvarg wrote: »
    Cloudless wrote: »
    Thorvarg wrote: »
    Sorry that you deleted your answer regarding the 1.3 billion, especially since you said that that is not much gold for you. :/

    In that case feel free to send me anything ranging from 1m to 10m, @Cloudless, EU server, kthx

    You should read more attentively. The word "you" doesn't mean "i, me". ;)

    I did read it attentively. I was talking to Blobsky.
  • Nicky33
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    I will submit tickets regarding traders situation and gold rain to zos support and encourage everyone to do the same. It seems that forum posts will remain without any response.
  • generalmyrick
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    Ackwalan wrote: »
    Seemed to go rather smooth on PC NA. I saw the normal guilds in their regular spots. Of course I did not check all the traders, but there was nothing in zone chat either.

    wait, this didn't even happen to the NA server?
    "The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:

    Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
    Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"

    Insight to Agree to Awesome Ratio = 1:6.04:2.76 as of 1/25/2019

    Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.
  • AlnilamE
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    Ackwalan wrote: »
    Seemed to go rather smooth on PC NA. I saw the normal guilds in their regular spots. Of course I did not check all the traders, but there was nothing in zone chat either.

    wait, this didn't even happen to the NA server?

    No. Everything seems to have gone smoothly on NA. We lost all our bids and got refunded the right amount of money.

    I was keeping an eye on one of the towns and saw one of the traders change almost immediately to a different guild.
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