Vanilla Eso for veterans/pvp

KerinKor · August 2019

Screw veterans they shouldn't be granted a campaign that would make them interested in playing this game!

The day can't come soon enough when there's no PVP for ZOS to have to react to by nerfing the PVE game endlessly.

dtsharples · August 2019

Can we just have a 'No' Option?
People making polls should be forced to take lessons in making them first.
Shouldn't have to agree, or 'screw veterans'.

labambao · August 2019

My suggestion is delete pvp from eso.
Launch standalone Cyrodiil online, with battlegrounds included.

hamgatan · August 2019

Screw veterans they shouldn't be granted a campaign that would make them interested in playing this game!

way too hard to implement and maintain. They would literally need a separate VM for each patch instance, which would in turn need the client end patched down, not to mention scale hypervisor resources appropriately for that... not ever going to happen. Remember a lot of the previous functionality was client side, hence why CE was so effective at memory injection. It would require rewrites of entire sections of dead patches to bring it server side - and theres no money in that.

plus, as a vet who's been here from day one (and before) - i don't see any need to it. the game changes, it evolves and devolves. you learn to adapt. every vet has either quit, or just gotten used to this to the point we don't really care any more and have given up hope on this utopian vision of a perfectly balanced game, we just live in the now and enjoy what we have.

PvP was bugged back then. It was bugged in almost every patch since. And it's still bugged now.

Crit Rushing off mountains into resource towers back when they had doors... Ambushing through keep doors... ugh no, that can all stay dead and buried TYVM. Viper-Veli-Eternal Hunt cheese? God no.. CE induced unlimited Shooting Star spam? See where I'm going with this..

Also.. i don't want a repeat of ZERGBAD. EVER!

Ozazz · August 2019

Good idea, Give the vets their safe space, I might attend also!

Jagdkommando wrote: »

Im assured 70%+ players will move to vanilla version of ESO

100% agree

Ozazz · August 2019

Good idea, Give the vets their safe space, I might attend also!

essentially you are screwing veterans that don't care for the game by denying this! which it is extremely sad to see 40% of people to disagree, theres literally 0%repercussion this would bring seeing how there's already dead campaigns everywhere!
this would be like saying
"zos cant separate imperial sewers and make it a separate server its a waste of time!"
they pulled it off!
or "they shouldnt change the map" up, they change the map up! people still play

hamgatan · August 2019

Screw veterans they shouldn't be granted a campaign that would make them interested in playing this game!

Ozazz wrote: »

essentially you are screwing veterans that don't care for the game by denying this!

slightly off topic, but are you even a Vet? your forum join date is only a year ago..?

Ozazz · August 2019

Good idea, Give the vets their safe space, I might attend also!

idk wrote: »

I doubt Zos is interested in opening up 6 more servers to support such an idea. Probably not the best business choice.

not like they don't have the money, it would be 4 at most if you were to cycle it weekly in a campaign.
also they opened one up for imperial sewers to separate it!
sooooo,
pay more attention to imperial sewers or your decaying pvp.
hard choice?

Ozazz · August 2019

Good idea, Give the vets their safe space, I might attend also!

@hamgatan started at launch on console, capped there then moved to pc capped here, dont play console anymore because it's a disaster. also i think they should shut down servers for console and let the people transfer over to pc!
when i did so, i had the mind set of this game isn't going to survive on console long term and i want to actually support the game and the intended platform it was on as well! other people should make the conscious decision too

BigBragg · August 2019

labambao wrote: »

My suggestion is delete pvp from eso.
Launch standalone Cyrodiil online, with battlegrounds included.

Just screw over anyone who enjoys doing different types content on their characters because you don't?

Ozazz · August 2019

Good idea, Give the vets their safe space, I might attend also!

@labambao you mean like different game! yeah i would probably agree with that!

hamgatan · August 2019

Screw veterans they shouldn't be granted a campaign that would make them interested in playing this game!

Ozazz wrote: »

@hamgatan started at launch on console, capped there then moved to pc capped here, dont play console anymore because it's a disaster. also i think they should shut down servers for console and let the people transfer over to pc!
when i did so, i had the mind set of this game isn't going to survive on console long term and i want to actually support the game and the intended platform it was on as well! other people should make the conscious decision too

just saying because hypothetically you weren't here for the 1.6 patch or the early few years on PC, you didn't see the huge changes and shifts in the early years, the migration from VR to CP etc.. those were times we had to smash out a million plus XP without xp pots or enlightenment just to get a VR rank, for EACH character. nobody, absolutely nobody wants to go back to that. also Console wasn't an exploit fest like PC was.. not to mention, pre OT zone locking etc etc..

going back to those kind of patches mean massive software rewrites. even if the dev timeline was git-forked / branched, there wouldn't be a way you could go back because the original master project has changed, so reapplying the previous forks would in effect break the master.

i do concur though, console is still a trainwreck and i see why you left. i dabbled in it for sh*ts and giggles but the lag on this side of the world makes it virtually unplayable - even on a One X. 500ms + i'm estimating given it takes at least a second for my Ults to drop even after i mash L+R two or three times.. Hard to tell without a ping indicator.

doomette · August 2019

Ozazz wrote: »

also i think they should shut down servers for console and let the people transfer over to pc!

Another one of you posters with inconsiderate and ill-conceived ideas about shutting down console servers?
I can’t say what I truly want, so I’ll just say your ideas are terrible and it reflects badly on you.

Tannus15 · August 2019

Screw veterans they shouldn't be granted a campaign that would make them interested in playing this game!

Yeah nah.

Reistr_the_Unbroken · August 2019

doomette wrote: »

Ozazz wrote: »

also i think they should shut down servers for console and let the people transfer over to pc!

Another one of you posters with inconsiderate and ill-conceived ideas about shutting down console servers?
I can’t say what I truly want, so I’ll just say your ideas are terrible and it reflects badly on you.

Honestly I hope this thread gets closed, cause reading that makes me think op is actually the troll

- sincerely, a console user who enjoys playing eso on it

Ozazz · August 2019

Good idea, Give the vets their safe space, I might attend also!

are you saying im another player? @Reistr_the_Unbroken

Alienoutlaw · August 2019

a better idea would be to have a flat damage and resistance cap, for those above that cap they get nerfed those below get buffed so everyone is the same, then it comes down to skill

Billdor · August 2019

Ozazz wrote: »

just a bunch of casuals dictating the outcome of the game

Link me your mains achievement page as well as your characters gear, we'll see who is a casual.

essi2 · August 2019

Jagdkommando wrote: »

Im assured 70%+ players will move to vanilla version of ESO

Best joke I've heard this week, good job!

labambao · August 2019

BigBragg wrote: »

labambao wrote: »

My suggestion is delete pvp from eso.
Launch standalone Cyrodiil online, with battlegrounds included.

Just screw over anyone who enjoys doing different types content on their characters because you don't?

Who like both types of content can play both games, aren't they?

idk · August 2019

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

There's a difference between being nostalgic and not being able to adapt to new changes.

This is true. I do remember the first year of this game fondly not including how broken it was at launch. But I also see huge improvements, especially with stam builds, in the game since.

I seriously doubt Zos is interested in doubling the number of servers to make this happen if they are not willing to have AUS/NZ/Oceanic servers and that is what this idea would require. It would also mean having to maintain two sets of code for each of the three platforms.

So in the end, it would be a bad business decision.

BigBragg · August 2019

labambao wrote: »

BigBragg wrote: »

labambao wrote: »

My suggestion is delete pvp from eso.
Launch standalone Cyrodiil online, with battlegrounds included.

Just screw over anyone who enjoys doing different types content on their characters because you don't?

Who like both types of content can play both games, aren't they?

Because grinding out gear, mats, skills, et cetra for two of the same character, sounds like so much fun...

Having to log out of one game, then back into another just to swap game modes that have always been in the same game, sounds like so much fun...

Adding more work for devs, sounds like so much fun...

labambao · August 2019

BigBragg wrote: »

labambao wrote: »

BigBragg wrote: »

labambao wrote: »

My suggestion is delete pvp from eso.
Launch standalone Cyrodiil online, with battlegrounds included.

Just screw over anyone who enjoys doing different types content on their characters because you don't?

Who like both types of content can play both games, aren't they?

Because grinding out gear, mats, skills, et cetra for two of the same character, sounds like so much fun...

Having to log out of one game, then back into another just to swap game modes that have always been in the same game, sounds like so much fun...

Adding more work for devs, sounds like so much fun...

But the main reason in pvp game you grind your gear in pvp, isn't it? So you enjoy grinding pve for pve gear and pvp for pvp gear.
Ir they can make equalized gear for cyrodiil online.
Like 3 defensive set for 3 armor types , with bonuses like
1000 stat (Hp, Stam, mag)
--3% damage from players
And 5 bonus +300 wpd or spd or 4k max stat. And - 15% damage.
And same offencive set with +% damage to players.
Same with Ms.
And all buyable for ap.
It's only for example, I don't want to think more then 1 min about it.

BigBragg · August 2019

labambao wrote: »

BigBragg wrote: »

labambao wrote: »

BigBragg wrote: »

labambao wrote: »

My suggestion is delete pvp from eso.
Launch standalone Cyrodiil online, with battlegrounds included.

Just screw over anyone who enjoys doing different types content on their characters because you don't?

Who like both types of content can play both games, aren't they?

Because grinding out gear, mats, skills, et cetra for two of the same character, sounds like so much fun...

Having to log out of one game, then back into another just to swap game modes that have always been in the same game, sounds like so much fun...

Adding more work for devs, sounds like so much fun...

But the main reason in pvp game you grind your gear in pvp, isn't it? So you enjoy grinding pve for pve gear and pvp for pvp gear.

Nope.

Builds use gear from both PvP and PvE. But gear isn't the main reason I play either mode, it is just a tool I use to enjoy playing.

labambao · August 2019

BigBragg wrote: »

labambao wrote: »

BigBragg wrote: »

labambao wrote: »

BigBragg wrote: »

labambao wrote: »

My suggestion is delete pvp from eso.
Launch standalone Cyrodiil online, with battlegrounds included.

Just screw over anyone who enjoys doing different types content on their characters because you don't?

Who like both types of content can play both games, aren't they?

Because grinding out gear, mats, skills, et cetra for two of the same character, sounds like so much fun...

Having to log out of one game, then back into another just to swap game modes that have always been in the same game, sounds like so much fun...

Adding more work for devs, sounds like so much fun...

But the main reason in pvp game you grind your gear in pvp, isn't it? So you enjoy grinding pve for pve gear and pvp for pvp gear.

Nope.

Builds use gear from both PvP and PvE. But gear isn't the main reason I play either mode, it is just a tool I use to enjoy playing.

And I don't want to play pve at this game at all, but I must to because of reasons. Who cares.

Ozazz · August 2019

Good idea, Give the vets their safe space, I might attend also!

I don't know if anyone realizes, but for anyone to be opposed on this topic it's for their own reasons and self bias as well! In other words, all the veterans shouldn't have a opinion and should be eradicated form the game if they disagree with the current model of the game! We should be forced to pay for mandatory content & play through a time line that we entirely disagree with! for me this timeline begins nearly 2 years ago in clockwork.

This would be the start of the most radical changes to pvp as we know it!
fast forward to 2019 cast time to ulti's= more bias towards nb/incap two patches in a row and Templar's have zero counter play to eclipse in other words they completely contradicted themselves when they nerfed wings on dk

Meanwhile sorcerer is in it's weakest defensive state up to date and everyone on the opposition and casuals celebrate! & 50% or more of the people would love to see the class persecuted still, According to a poll from earlier! Clearly these are the people that couldn't adapt that is why zos has been on a two year vendetta with sorcerer and the last year I predicted nb was going to get the same treatment! not a prophet but im sure as h3l** right!

essi2 · August 2019

You keep using the term 'Veteran' as if you're the sole spokesman for the people who have been playing ESO for whatever arbitrary time limit you would use to define who is or isn't a Veteran.

Casterial · August 2019

I'd love for a vanilla ESO PVP server, sadly though I think they should focus on class balance and performance.

Ozazz · August 2019

Good idea, Give the vets their safe space, I might attend also!

@essi2 A veteran player in my perspective would hold the same views or standard someone like Sypherpk would hold or many old school players, someone who helped build pvp for what it was and taught players how to bridge the skill gap!That should be the standard for all pvpers. Respect solo play and small group play, rather than purely focusing on casuals or skill less players, because that's a more popular business model! or at least have a balance between solo vs group, I think that is more than fair!

Billdor · August 2019

Ozazz wrote: »

@essi2 A veteran player in my perspective would hold the same views or standard someone like Sypherpk would hold or many old school players, someone who helped build pvp for what it was and taught players how to bridge the skill gap!That should be the standard for all pvpers. Respect solo play and small group play, rather than purely focusing on casuals or skill less players, because that's a more popular business model! or at least have a balance between solo vs group, I think that is more than fair!

So not a veteran then? Someone who agrees with your pathetic delusional agenda, is what you're looking for.