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We shouldnt do pve stuff in inpen right?

festher
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hey - what do you PvPers do for set and builds when you need to do pve stuff to get pvp items?
i could use a decent magicka build with good traits for that stuff. maybe share it on my magdk, magblade and magden.

thoughts/ideas? just two set with divines? i plan a little black rose/vma/plegdes for pvp items :smile:

  • Vermintide
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    Spare sets and outfitter add on.

    You can do PVE in impen if you want to save a few thousand gold on the repair bill :wink:
  • Iskiab
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    Yea, multiple sets. You wouldn’t want to use the same sets anyways since there are few sets that are good in pve and pvp.

    If you’re just starting out you’re far better off using impen in pve then divines/infused in pvp.
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  • wheem_ESO
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    I've done VMA and non-DLC vet dungeons (as healer) in Impen PvP gear. While you can certainly do better in a "real" PvE setup, I already have bag space issues and don't really like PvE enough to bother putting much effort into dedicated setups for it.
  • Heimpai
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    I use impen gear and do fine
  • VaranisArano
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    The only reason to use Impenetrable for PVE content is if you want to reduce the damage to your armor so you pay for repairs less often.

    PVE mobs and bosses can't critically hit, so that aspect of Impenetrable is only useful in PVP content.
  • idk
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    Multiple sets as has been said. However, you can still do your PvE stuff in inpen, you just will not be optimal. It is like Varanis said.
    Really, idk
  • msalvia
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    Impen is useless in PvE, so you'll likely want to get two sets, at least...one for pve, one for pvp. It doesn't "hurt" you the same way running divines in pvp does, but it just does nothing at all the help you (aside from less repairing).

    If your goal is 4 person pve stuff, you have lots of options, but I'm a huge advocate for Vicious Ophidian (stam) and False God (mag). These sets are awesome in arenas (BRP, MA, DSA) and viable in all pve stuff. THey're also quite easy to get (VO is very easy to get, Imperfect false god also easy to get)by running normal trials.

    Plenty of other non-trial sets you can use for pve, but that's a different post :)

  • FrancisCrawford
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    If you do the math, PvE armor traits generally aren't very significant. That doesn't stop people, including me, from getting gear with good traits when practical. But if you don't want to go through the hassle, it's no big deal.
  • UppGRAYxDD
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    Transmutation is Beast in PvE...
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  • festher
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    Thanks! Great info
  • InvictusApollo
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    festher wrote: »
    hey - what do you PvPers do for set and builds when you need to do pve stuff to get pvp items?
    i could use a decent magicka build with good traits for that stuff. maybe share it on my magdk, magblade and magden.

    thoughts/ideas? just two set with divines? i plan a little black rose/vma/plegdes for pvp items :smile:

    What?! Are you suggesting that we would use two different builds: one for pve and second one for pvp? That's crazy!
    We are using different builds for every type of content or even different bosses on a trial.
  • Iskiab
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    If you do the math, PvE armor traits generally aren't very significant. That doesn't stop people, including me, from getting gear with good traits when practical. But if you don't want to go through the hassle, it's no big deal.

    This is totally true. PvEers wear the traits they do because there’s nothing better. PvPers wear the traits they do because they absolutely need impen.

    If I could only have one gear set I’d use a pvp set.
    Edited by Iskiab on August 3, 2019 2:32PM
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  • bigelle.x3_ESO
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    Vet hm in non dlc dungeons it doesnt really matter what you wear. Should probably try to maximize damage for dlc vet hm, arenas, and trials.
  • CompM4s
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    Depends, my pvp character is my main, but im not switching gear and cp just for questlines. For vet content I have dedicated pve characters.
  • Kalik_Gold
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    CompM4s wrote: »
    Depends, my pvp character is my main, but im not switching gear and cp just for questlines. For vet content I have dedicated pve characters.

    My same playstyle - Main does quests and PVP, and I have dedicated PVE characters. Questing and Overland is fine in Impen.

    Ras Kalik | Redguard - Templar [PvP]
    Jux Blackheart | Redguard - Nightblade [PvP]
    Cacique the Sage of Ius | Redguard - Warden [PvP]
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    Aurik Siet'ka | Redguard - Necromancer [PvE Damage]
    Goliath of Hammerfell | Redguard - Dragonknight [PvE Tank]
    Kaotik Von Dae'mon | Breton Redguard - Sorcerer [PvE Healer]
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    Herzog Zwei the Genesis | Breton - Templar*
    Tyrus Septim | Imperial - Sorcerer*
    Cinan Tharn | Imperial - Dragonknight*
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    Champion 810+ CP | PS4/NA | DC PVP | *Leveling | † the Vestige
    Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard Paladin and wielder of Chrysamere; has been blessed to save Nirn from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. Further accomplishments, he has also stopped the destruction of Morrowind, Clockwork City and returned order to the isle of Summerset. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. (not only Sai Sahan has a secret snowflake!)

    Over years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he visited his homeland of Alik'r. Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the God of animals) leads this group. The shaman recites a ritualistic daily ancestral prayer at sunrise. Kalik can sense the prayers of Cacique, even when he whispers it in the loneliest place in the desert to keep the tribe safe before battle. After rescuing Sentinel, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, which was given this name by Imperials in the region; asked to join the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with clearing delves and dungeons when necessary. Jux Blackheart a master thief that frequents the Sisters of the Sands inn for pilfering, was known to infiltrate any bank vault or Ayelid ruin without detection, but Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of this greed. He lost two fingertips as a lesson! Cacique performed the dressing on Jux's wounds and convinced him on joining the tribe and to give up his criminal past. Last but not least, Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and half-caste between a Breton mother and Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon to Wrothgar. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r to Wrothgar when the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in Sentinel's inn. Their hideout apartment, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.

    The other men rescued were a Dunmer, a Breton and two Imperials. The Imperials were related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (Ras Kalik's mentor in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn is Abnur's pompous treasure hunting illegitimate son, that was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayelid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder Imperial Tyrus Septim is a scholar and advisor to the Tharn family. The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperials. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be a manservant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.

    Herzog Zwei the Genesis a Breton and also an Cult leader of Bretons that worship and try to live as Ayelids, was only seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture. This artifact being the Ayelid sword; Sinweaver. Immediately after their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why he wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had heard rumors that the Sword would give him magical powers if he performed a ritual custom at an old Elven shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure. Ras Kalik had noticed the sword however, an sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayelid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (* Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)

    And so the Redguard, Imperial and Breton men have parted ways for now... While Ras Kalik is off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn - - DRAGONS!! He doesn't know a necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, in Alik'r and the one known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following to the land of the Khajiits.
  • exeeter702
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    festher wrote: »
    hey - what do you PvPers do for set and builds when you need to do pve stuff to get pvp items?
    i could use a decent magicka build with good traits for that stuff. maybe share it on my magdk, magblade and magden.

    thoughts/ideas? just two set with divines? i plan a little black rose/vma/plegdes for pvp items :smile:

    Anyone who fully plays the game will be swimming in pve gear sets you can throw on for pve endeavors.
  • Heatnix90
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    Make yourself a set of Julianos or Hunding's, run some pug craglorns/sunspires for False God or Vicious Ophidian and you've got a setup that will keep you topped off, easy.

    Also, Impen does have a use, albeit a very niche one in PvE, mainly for XP grinding. Armor degradation is directly tied to XP gain, so if you're getting massive amounts of XP you're also degrading your armor faster. Like I said, it's niche but it'll help wiith repair costs if you're too cheap to carry around Repair Kits.
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  • p00tx
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    If you're a mag spec and you're just starting out in PvE, farm up a set of Mother's Sorrow from Deshaan (or craft a set of Mechanical Acuity) and make yourself a set of Julianos, all divines on the body. Go with the Shadow Mundus. Get yourself a Grothdar monster set (for add pulls). You'll be totally set and should be able to take on most 4 person content. Blackrose Prison is pretty easy on normal, but fair warning...it's a beast on vet. You need a really solid rotation with high dmg output, a really solid tank, and you will want to look up some videos and maybe a player guide. It gets easier with reps, but it can be overwhelming at first.
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  • SugaComa
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    Julianos all devine I have multiple weapon / jewelry sets I can mix pve I tend drop into mother's sorrow with the julianos and I pick a monster set I fancy using ... Most pve content fur farming is way easy so you don't need much
  • therift
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    I've cleared all but the latest two vet HM dungeons in PvP gear with ease on stamplar and magplar. But I have several thousand hours of play time on the class and a lot of experience in instanced PvE.

    As noted above, carrying an alternate gear set is the ideal option... an alternate armor set, even a copy of your PvP armor set with Infused/Divines traits, will do the trick until you can run the content blindfolded. You're only fighting against programmed robots, after all, so mechanics knowledge trumps everything.
  • ecru
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    traits make very little difference in pve for dps, impen is fine unless you're doing hardmode trials or something. plenty of content is cleared with people in sub optimal traits on most of their gear too.
    Gryphon Heart
  • fred4
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    It depends on the build. For example my PvP magplar with Overwhelming Surge and Amber Plasm is perfect for vMA with a minimum of skill changes. Even the stam sustain comes in handy at times. On the other hand, my Caluurion magblade would need a complete gear and skill change for PvE. Since I only care about PvP, I usually just take the templar for farming arenas and DLC dungeons. Yeah, the gear is impen. Who cares.
    Edited by fred4 on August 12, 2019 1:05AM
    PC EU, Stamina DK (EP), Magicka NB (EP), Magicka Warden (EP), Magicka Templar (EP). Occasionally: Stamina Templar (EP), Stamina NB (AD), Stamina Sorcerer (DC)
  • merevie
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    If you wear divine in Imperial City you should wear impen in Cloudrest.
  • FangOfTheTwoMoons
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    ecru wrote: »
    traits make very little difference in pve for dps, impen is fine unless you're doing hardmode trials or something. plenty of content is cleared with people in sub optimal traits on most of their gear too.

    Please don't encourage this.

    I'd say anything other than impen can work. In all reality nothing beats divines for armor traits for dps in PvE. You will see a significant DPS loss if you're wearing impen. I'd say if whatever you're wearing can get you to 20k-25k dps you can do most content in the game. Probably all the Non DLC Vet HM's bar VCOA2 and VBC2. It will be very difficult to beat a VDLC dungeon with sub optimal gear and finding a group to run them will be even harder, unless you have friends/guildies that will help you slosh through it.

    For Stam Hundings/VO works fine.
    For Mag FGD/Julianos will work fine.

    If you don't wanna run Normal Trails and just wanna craft some easy items Ashen Grip/Seducer can replace those trial sets I guess (not sure if any other good crafted alternatives may wanna look it up).
  • ecru
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    ecru wrote: »
    traits make very little difference in pve for dps, impen is fine unless you're doing hardmode trials or something. plenty of content is cleared with people in sub optimal traits on most of their gear too.

    Please don't encourage this.

    I'd say anything other than impen can work. In all reality nothing beats divines for armor traits for dps in PvE. You will see a significant DPS loss if you're wearing impen. I'd say if whatever you're wearing can get you to 20k-25k dps you can do most content in the game. Probably all the Non DLC Vet HM's bar VCOA2 and VBC2. It will be very difficult to beat a VDLC dungeon with sub optimal gear and finding a group to run them will be even harder, unless you have friends/guildies that will help you slosh through it.

    For Stam Hundings/VO works fine.
    For Mag FGD/Julianos will work fine.

    If you don't wanna run Normal Trails and just wanna craft some easy items Ashen Grip/Seducer can replace those trial sets I guess (not sure if any other good crafted alternatives may wanna look it up).

    i wasn't suggesting gear wasn't important, just that the traits aren't that important. the difference between full divines and full impen in terms of dps is like a few percent.
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  • universal_wrath
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    wheem_ESO wrote: »
    I've done VMA and non-DLC vet dungeons (as healer) in Impen PvP gear. While you can certainly do better in a "real" PvE setup, I already have bag space issues and don't really like PvE enough to bother putting much effort into dedicated setups for it.

    I healed vet trials with heavy impen tanky set on my healer, no issues at all. As far as I'm concernd, I use same pvp healer to do pve DLC dungeonn and achievments as well as trials(never tried hm on trials though) content without changing my gears, only few skills here and there.

    As far as I know, pve healing is the easiest part of eso if you run with decent groups who don't stand in red circles. Hardest lart is healing pvp groups and not only 1 person, I mainly do BG for PVP, not much cyrodiil. Have been healing after 1 year of game being launched, but I mai stamsorc in both pvp and pve.
  • HaruKamui
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    Well if you're starting out and you prefer pvp or pve, just focus on getting impenetrable well rounded stat-giving sets. You'll be okay farming gear using them in pve.
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  • iRaivyne
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    My StamBlade uses impen gear unless I'm doing a DLC vet dungeon, arena, or trial... Hundings and Briarheart is fine if I need to switch gear. I do have a the "meta sets", but outside of tank and spank bosses, they don't seem to add all that much anyway.
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