But it is mainly due to poor game performance

I really love this patch so far.

1) my main magnecro got a significant buff, and is competitive with other classes now.

2) revision of skills, which was the main goal of this patch, allowed a lot of build diversity in PvP, at least on the magicka side. Some people say "BuT EvErYoNe UsInG sAmE sKiLlS", which is just not true, since slotting all generic dots/heals and rotating between them is very suboptimal. Burst is still the king, classes still provide a lot of utility, offensive, and defensive options, and almost all of them are comparable to generic stuff, thus you quickly run into bar space issues.

For example, when building a magnecro, I can now chose between 5 dots (entropy, soul trap, skeleton mage, flame reach, pulse with BRD), 2 CCs (clench/totem), 8 heals/defensive skills (2 versions of spirit, 2 versions of rapid regen, healing thether, healing ward, dampen magicka, render flash), and a bunch of utility skills (2 versions of purges, armor buff).

Thats all while in previous patch I had a hard choice between a crap skill, crap skill and another crap skill.

I've also built a magblade so far, and the amount of choices there is even larger.

3) mobility of medium armor builds increased a lot, thanks to new shuffle, all my stamblade friends are happy now.

4) cast time on ults is good, now I can easier see that onslaught/DB coming. All those sub+DB stamdens, running in "elite" small scale groups smashing potatoes in towers / BG premades will be disappointed, I bet.

5) no more petsorcs streaking around, imaging they are skilful PvPers, that alone makes this patch so good. Shields got overnerfed a bit, but sorcs will adapt with the new resto heals, I have no doubts.

So far PvP is very fast-paced, fun, and the performance seem to be a bit better (probably cause less people playing). This patch is very refreshing.

dots killing the game

I mostly play solo BGs, and honestly they are no longer enjoyable if you don't happen to get a dedicated healer on the team. Before, your odds of surviving two decent players in no-CP were low but now it's outright impossible, especially if they are magicka builds -- it's very common to have two entropy, two soul traps, and whatever other class DoTs on you all the time (in addition to things like Curse). Also, it's now much, much harder to run any potions in BGs other than the *new* Lingering Health potions (restore health, restore stamina, lingering health).

In CP, Dizzying Swing Wardens are even more disgusting to fight. Combine that with Onslaught, and they are borderline broken.

That's my experience so far after playing about 5 hours of PvP on my main (StamDK).

i like it.

i had to rebuild my setup, new gear, new skills, new rotation... which kinda sucky, but kinda fun. died a lot. but few pointers from CP PvP.
1. single DoT got buffed, but realistically, it's not OP by any stretch. maybe because bleed got resisted now?
2. AoE DoT got nerfed. Carve and Nox was on my bar and honestly, it costs more and hurt less, so it's meh?
3. heal is... weirdly seems no change? i rely on Vigor as a stamDK and can still outheal most DoT in a 1v1.
4. all things considered DoT overall as a stamDK, honestly, feels a little nerf instead of buff. maybe we just dont have a lot of single-target DoT.
5. new stampede is meh.
6. Onslaught can be dodged. and in CP PvP, they will get dodged. when they're not, they hit good, but not too hard. and the resistance bypass doesn't feel OP at all. I think ill actually go back to Corrosive Armor, together with good ole' Leap.
7. Dizzying feels faster now, but in a busy fight in Cyro, the change is not noticeable.
8. heavy armor with old updated sets can still have burst wep damage, they are not being nerfed. and keeping up with active buff is still boring work.
9. med seems viable thanks to the new skill.
10. mobility/snare/cc is still a big thing. no changes there.
11. goodbye Fossilize. i can't afford u now.
12. sorc's power overload is still OP.

On my stam DK main it's about the same. Was already a dot build; the 2 (out of 15) DK stam skills cost more. Vigor seems about the same.

I stopped using fossilze a few weeks ago to prepare. Too many skills need magicka to afford 4k for more than one.

I'll have to play more to see how my other toons do.

Have fun playing pvp without some form of cleanse or DoT suppression. Oh and cast times on certain ults totally ruin the flow of combat.

This audit more or less made every single target dot in the game the same as each other they all have similar tooltips and far as stamina goes this patch left me with less build diversity because sword shield is pretty much just a buff only skill line alot of the skills from shield line I wouldn't even use over some class skills so what's the point

Melee build is like a zombie of Resident Evil.
Now, ESO is Trash Pathetic Shooter.
How can we fix ZoS stupidity?

My build received mostly buffs and while the *makes sure no one is listening* DOTs thing hurts in medium I have enjoyed it so far.

That was yesterday and I haven’t played at all today since the forum apocalypse so I’m assuming more people will be running DOT builds because someone on the forums told them to.

As of monday TTK seemed to go down quite a bit for both myself and my enemies which to me isn’t a bad thing since I’m playing a glass cannon and enjoy fast paced gameplay. I will have to see where it goes as the new patch develops but my only complaint right now is the ability of certain playstyles to load up a *** ton of DOTs on you and then cloak / turtle up while the DOTs do all the work for them. As a melee, medium DD you can’t even LOS to take off the pressure to heal you are just constantly being eaten alive and certain classes are much better equipped to mitigate this than others.

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Well now we have a magicka version of bleeds (but no bleed buff sets), but they are much easier to apply.

I think it's too soon to brand a meta, but I suspect the player response will be to faction stack bigger and enjoy the buff to crashes and rollbacks.

Maybe, I'm noticing coordinated groups is the only way to go in BGs now. The days where someone could YOLO Leeroy Jenkins in a tanky build and survive more then a couple of seconds are gone. Premades are dominating more now then before the patch, and with TTK down coordination is more important than ever. I think we're looking at a premade or GTFO for BG meta... not sure how that will translate to Cyrodiil, but I can't see groups of under 5 do more then get steamrolled.

Except for people who like the new influx of power to carry them, I think we can agree that SOME DoT skills are now overloaded. The two major offenders at this time are Soul Trap which is being used constantly and Entropy which is a very loaded skill that does damage comparable to Master DW + Rending Slashes (which, ironically, magicka players have been losing it over for some time). The buffs they received was just a bit over the top, I’m not sure why ZOS thought it was a good idea to simply slap on 200%+ buffs to certain skills. The biggest issue with ZOS’ skill audit is that they’re just looking at types of skills and buffing or nerfing to a standardized level without considering how they function or what other benefits they provide in comparison to skills of similar types.

Damage in no cp is insane right now.