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Khajiit Crit bonus compared to shadow
Jodynn
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Shadow gives 13% base, and 19% with all divines
Khajiit gives 10% which is a race; I understand it is also healing but as a dps spec this matters little to me.
Apprentice base it 238, with all divines 363
High Elf and Dark elf get 258 spell damage while, as well as stronger magicka buffs.
Could Khajiit ask for 14% crit damage instead of 10% to put it closer in balance as high and dark elf are both outperforming Khajiit.
Khajiit gives 10% which is a race; I understand it is also healing but as a dps spec this matters little to me.
Apprentice base it 238, with all divines 363
High Elf and Dark elf get 258 spell damage while, as well as stronger magicka buffs.
Could Khajiit ask for 14% crit damage instead of 10% to put it closer in balance as high and dark elf are both outperforming Khajiit.
Jodynn PC NA
PvE and PvP MagDK
The lack of communication from ZOS to player speaks volumes.
PvE and PvP MagDK
The lack of communication from ZOS to player speaks volumes.
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Ellyhan✭✭✭Nope. Change you'r race if you are not happy.J'ai pas de coéquipiers, c'est juste mon garde manger.0 -
Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No
10% is more than enough. Minor force is 10% extra crit dmg, same as Khajiit racial.Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
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✭✭✭✭Wasn't their a thread that showed that the damage races still deal higher crits than khajiits?5 -
ATreeGnome✭✭✭✭Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »Wasn't their a thread that showed that the damage races still deal higher crits than khajiits?
I don't know about a thread, but I've tested it myself with typical PvE setups and Khajiit do crit lower than Dunmer. Plus, obviously, their non- crits are lower.0 -
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10% is more than enough. Minor force is 10% extra crit dmg, same as Khajiit racial.
I'm not comparing minor force, I'm comparing mundusNope. Change you'r race if you are not happy.
I'm not here to argue if it doesn't affect you why do you care; Also I don't have random money to spend on race change tokens, and I prefer being a Khajiit over other races, but I don't feel like because I choose a race by aesthetics and lore I should be reprimanded by DPS loss.ATreeGnome wrote: »Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »Wasn't their a thread that showed that the damage races still deal higher crits than khajiits?
I don't know about a thread, but I've tested it myself with typical PvE setups and Khajiit do crit lower than Dunmer. Plus, obviously, their non- crits are lower.
I have tested way more than I should have and it's a substantial difference in PvE and PvP.Jodynn PC NA
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Supernatural✭✭✭✭A small increase to Khajiit's critical strike damage would solve most balance issues and would bring back some of its dentity, without magically making it overpowered or better compared Orc, Dark Elf or High Elf. Khajiit specializes in critical strike damage, so it only makes sense that it should be doing more critical damage than all other races.Edited by Supernatural on August 13, 2019 8:41PMMaelstrom Arena - World's First Nightblade 600k Score - 02/18/20176 -
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✭I agree. The bonus to crit damge is underwhelming. The bonus should be higher, so Khajiit would actually have higher crits than Dunmers. Or they should get increased sustain to compensate, whatever.Edited by vesselwiththepestle on August 13, 2019 8:39PM1000+ CP
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Sheuib✭✭✭✭brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »
Comparing a mundus to a racial is as pointless as comparing a buff to a racial.
If you want to make a statement about racial passives then stick to racial passives.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Well, I agree that khajiit needs some juice but maybe something other then crit damage cause it may be OP in some PVP builds. I think a little change, like 5% crit chance + 5% crit damage will be good.
But while buffing khajiit, argonian, bosmer and redguard must be revisited too.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭It’s a tough comparison because the Shadow Stone is obviously overpowered, to the point that no other Mundus stones are used by DPS anymore. If we want to balance Shadow against other options, it should be about 10% crit damage without divines, which gives 15% in 7 divines (16% if using 8 divines from a shield). This makes the Thief and the Shadow equivalent at around 60% crit chance, each giving about 6% DPS gain (which is about the same as Apprentice). Maybe go as high as 11% to make it more balanced with Warrior on a stam build (better multipliers in weapon damage than mag builds have on Spell damage), which would be 16% with 7 divines.
I do agree that Khajiit needs more though, IMO 12% for crit damage seems about right. Could maybe even go to 13% since their primary damage resource is lower than other races, but this is already offset by having a little more health and recovery.
Edit: If we want to talk about Khajiit racials as a whole, the tri-resource passive should give 1k of each to be balanced with races that get 2k of a single resource (based on the 50% tri-stat precedent set by prismatics and triune). Also the tri-regen should be somewhere in the range of 100-160 depending on what is used for comparison.Edited by WrathOfInnos on August 14, 2019 9:53PM2