Exactly.

daemondamian wrote: »

So does that mean it will only heal if you've already activated a heal skill such as the twilight or resto staff skill and if that heal happens to be a critical heal?

In which case I'm forced to use a resto staff or twilight to gain a chance extra heal or to run Critical surge for the chance of heals on critical strikes and therefore lose the Major Sorcery buff?

Twilight does not Proc power surge, i tried it SEVERAL times

Lazarus_Rising wrote: »

You could run Degeneration with Critical Surge. Then you have all you need. Still uses 2 slots tho but the Dot of Degeneration is powerful. Switch off the Daedric Curse and you should be good.

sacrificing DPS

Lord_Wrath wrote: »

Not once have I ever heard a complaint with surge, why was this even necessary?

A lot of player were asking for a Sorcerer healing skills. I think ZOS made 2 mistakes by doing it :

At first, Power Surge Proc on critical heal + damage with no People limit each second. So they change it : proc only on critical heal (good change in my opinion), cooldown of 3 seconds and reduce it to hit 6 People, if ZOS want this spell to be use in trials, they have to chose between the cd nerf or the 6 People, but the 2 nerfs together make the spell useless (in my opinion ! Didnt tested it yet !)

Second mistake, so now that power surge is change what does Magsork get for self heal (usefull in vMA for example), so you have to play critical surge, BUT critical surge doesnt give you Major Sorcery, so it force you to play with Degeneration to get the buff...

So you have to choose : or you play with power surge + Entropy to get heal and then can proc power surge every 3 sec,

or

you play with Degeneration + Critical Surge

I think the second option is better for self heal in solo content, if anyone tried it ? I also dont Know if the healing from Power Surge/Critical Surge is scaling with spell damage + max mag/weapon damage + max stam, or is it a flat value ?

danara wrote: »

Lord_Wrath wrote: »

Not once have I ever heard a complaint with surge, why was this even necessary?

A lot of player were asking for a Sorcerer healing skills. I think ZOS made 2 mistakes by doing it :

At first, Power Surge Proc on critical heal + damage with no People limit each second. So they change it : proc only on critical heal (good change in my opinion), cooldown of 3 seconds and reduce it to hit 6 People, if ZOS want this spell to be use in trials, they have to chose between the cd nerf or the 6 People, but the 2 nerfs together make the spell useless (in my opinion ! Didnt tested it yet !)

Second mistake, so now that power surge is change what does Magsork get for self heal (usefull in vMA for example), so you have to play critical surge, BUT critical surge doesnt give you Major Sorcery, so it force you to play with Degeneration to get the buff...

So you have to choose : or you play with power surge + Entropy to get heal and then can proc power surge every 3 sec,

or

you play with Degeneration + Critical Surge

I think the second option is better for self heal in solo content, if anyone tried it ? I also dont Know if the healing from Power Surge/Critical Surge is scaling with spell damage + max mag/weapon damage + max stam, or is it a flat value ?

The problem I had with Degeneration was that, unlike Surge, it requires a target, you can't fire it off before combat and then start attacking, you either attack without it, or you open with it (which isn't exactly burst-y). Which is silly, because if any class should have easy access to Major Sorcery, it should be Sorcerer, the clue is in the name. I've decided to just stick with potions instead of aggroing an entire squad with a dot.

Like i said i didnt tried it (i Just have a Sorc for vMA ^^)

Thanks for adding précision

It would be cool when healing if the matriarch worked but they say it does not, why the class skill heal does not activate the healing well I will still have regeneration that has much more chances to proc it, I consider the matriarch some sort of direct heal more now that does no damage, It is a huge parrot that the only thing it does now is healing.
I have to say that I do not heal very much it is difficult depending on the grups so i prefered it like it was before.

Alienoutlaw wrote: »

Lazarus_Rising wrote: »

You could run Degeneration with Critical Surge. Then you have all you need. Still uses 2 slots tho but the Dot of Degeneration is powerful. Switch off the Daedric Curse and you should be good.

sacrificing DPS

do you sacrifice dps? I think degeneration is more powerful than daedric curse now

Lazarus_Rising wrote: »

Alienoutlaw wrote: »

Lazarus_Rising wrote: »

You could run Degeneration with Critical Surge. Then you have all you need. Still uses 2 slots tho but the Dot of Degeneration is powerful. Switch off the Daedric Curse and you should be good.

sacrificing DPS

do you sacrifice dps? I think degeneration is more powerful than daedric curse now

pet sorcs use deadric prey so yes a drop in dps

So sorc has a class ability now that activates on critical healing, but yet not a class ability to actually proc it? Seems fine....

Lord_Wrath wrote: »

Not once have I ever heard a complaint with surge, why was this even necessary?

Collateral damage.

They did this because sorcerers don;t have an AoE heal like the other classes and the Devs felt it needed one because of the Healing Springs change.

Thanks for the responses and feedback. I'm running Critical Surge and Structured Entropy for the heals, major brutality and major sorcery in group content with dedicated healers but use a restoration staff on my back bar and twilight matriarch for soloing things as CS and SE aren't enough.

SirAndy wrote: »

Hmmm, i just tested Power Surge on a world boss (solo) and it did NOT proc off the Clannfear heals (5/14 crits).
I did not use any other heals during the fight and i let the boss pummel me to get a good number of heals.

It *did* proc off "Critical Leech" though which is a CP passive ...

Surge and its morphs never procced off pet damage in the past, so I guess it makes sense that it does not proc off pet heals. Is this a long running bug or by design? Who knows. Pet damage does not proc stuff like Ilambris, either. I think all these skills and sets require "you" to do something and the game says, "'You' did not do that damage/heal, your pet did." I don't think anyone cared because there are so many other sources of damage, all of it ticking more frequently than the pets that only attack every 2 seconds. But this is much more noticeable with healing, of which Sorcs have very few sources.

This spell is a flop. ZOS needs to go back to the drawing board on this one.

The 3 second cooldown is what really kills it.