Power surge - only heals if you activate a critical heal?

method__01

changing power surge is the worst idea zos came up with since launch and we all standing doing nothing
instead demand some devs to explain why the change

this is BS

itsfatbass

Degeneration HAS no heal anymore, so that idea is not gonna work.

Aurie

Post edited out as irrelevant.

Jayman1000

daemondamian wrote: »

So does that mean it will only heal if you've already activated a heal skill such as the twilight or resto staff skill and if that heal happens to be a critical heal?

In which case I'm forced to use a resto staff or twilight to gain a chance extra heal or to run Critical surge for the chance of heals on critical strikes and therefore lose the Major Sorcery buff?

But if you cast Cryst Blast with Blood Magic, and that gets a crit heal, that should activate the group heal from power surge, max once per 3 sec.

Power surge still gives you the Major Sorcery no matter what.

heaven13

itsfatbass wrote: »

Degeneration HAS no heal anymore, so that idea is not gonna work.

Structured entropy (the other morph) does though.

Saril_Durzam

Get ready for when ZoS nerfes the dots... your pain screams will be heared in any place of Tamriel...

Rikkadir

I played for an hour this morning, I play solo. Sick of dying through no/not enough heals. Went from 'Power Surge' back to 'Surge' and bought 'Structured Entropy', heals for 941 every 2 seconds lol [cry] and 'Surge' only heals on weapon criticals which is way lower than my spell crit chance. [cry again]
Maelstrom Arena will now be impossible for me, as will any dungeon.
This whole patch 1.50 for PS4 is a joke and I wont be buying any more dlc until 'Power Surge' is fixed to enable SOLO PLAYERS to play with enjoyment.
There, that'll make 'em fix it.

OG_Kaveman

Rikkadir wrote: »

I played for an hour this morning, I play solo. Sick of dying through no/not enough heals. Went from 'Power Surge' back to 'Surge' and bought 'Structured Entropy', heals for 941 every 2 seconds lol [cry] and 'Surge' only heals on weapon criticals which is way lower than my spell crit chance. [cry again]
Maelstrom Arena will now be impossible for me, as will any dungeon.
This whole patch 1.50 for PS4 is a joke and I wont be buying any more dlc until 'Power Surge' is fixed to enable SOLO PLAYERS to play with enjoyment.
There, that'll make 'em fix it.

What makes you think surge heals on weapon crit only, it uses the highest stat buddy.

Also the heal from SE can crit and can stack, meaning you cast the skill on more then one enemy, you get more heals

sharquez

Rikkadir wrote: »

I played for an hour this morning, I play solo. Sick of dying through no/not enough heals. Went from 'Power Surge' back to 'Surge' and bought 'Structured Entropy', heals for 941 every 2 seconds lol [cry] and 'Surge' only heals on weapon criticals which is way lower than my spell crit chance. [cry again]
Maelstrom Arena will now be impossible for me, as will any dungeon.
This whole patch 1.50 for PS4 is a joke and I wont be buying any more dlc until 'Power Surge' is fixed to enable SOLO PLAYERS to play with enjoyment.
There, that'll make 'em fix it.

I got my flawless on my sorc this patch so Maelstrom will be fine.
PVE is not really an issue for sorc nor has it ever been from my experiance.

PVP on the otherhand I've felt worthless except for on a glass cannon overload build which they decided oH yEaH lEtS nErF iT 25% BeCaUsE UlTiMatEs sHoUlDn'T kIlL PeOPle!111

Been playing more Overwatch where the game actually feels reasonable and fair. Oh and Ultimates kill people. A well placed one can wipe a whole team. Which is completely fine! They should be decisive gameplay elements.

Now I've been spending the past few days trying to find a build that can stand up to literally any other class anymore. Not much luck, Since LITERALLY EVERYTHING I'VE BEEN USING FOR THE PAST 5 YEARS HAD TO BE MESSED WITH.

Waffennacht

sharquez wrote: »

Rikkadir wrote: »

I played for an hour this morning, I play solo. Sick of dying through no/not enough heals. Went from 'Power Surge' back to 'Surge' and bought 'Structured Entropy', heals for 941 every 2 seconds lol [cry] and 'Surge' only heals on weapon criticals which is way lower than my spell crit chance. [cry again]
Maelstrom Arena will now be impossible for me, as will any dungeon.
This whole patch 1.50 for PS4 is a joke and I wont be buying any more dlc until 'Power Surge' is fixed to enable SOLO PLAYERS to play with enjoyment.
There, that'll make 'em fix it.

I got my flawless on my sorc this patch so Maelstrom will be fine.
PVE is not really an issue for sorc nor has it ever been from my experiance.

PVP on the otherhand I've felt worthless except for on a glass cannon overload build which they decided oH yEaH lEtS nErF iT 25% BeCaUsE UlTiMatEs sHoUlDn'T kIlL PeOPle!111

Been playing more Overwatch where the game actually feels reasonable and fair. Oh and Ultimates kill people. A well placed one can wipe a whole team. Which is completely fine! They should be decisive gameplay elements.

Now I've been spending the past few days trying to find a build that can stand up to literally any other class anymore. Not much luck, Since LITERALLY EVERYTHING I'VE BEEN USING FOR THE PAST 5 YEARS HAD TO BE MESSED WITH.

Been struggling to play ESO with Vigor (the game) being rather entertaining.

Agree with the change being poorly thought out - (or well thought out and purposely "nerfed")

Odd thing to me is my Stam sorc (pve) has way better survivability and heals than my mag

zaria

luen79rwb17_ESO wrote: »

This is by far the biggest abomination from this patch. What are they thinking? Wth is this??!

ZoS logic, it makes sense that sorcerer should not have class ability with access to major sorcery as they are yes sorceress.

carrielynne

danara wrote: »

Lord_Wrath wrote: »

Not once have I ever heard a complaint with surge, why was this even necessary?

A lot of player were asking for a Sorcerer healing skills. I think ZOS made 2 mistakes by doing it :

At first, Power Surge Proc on critical heal + damage with no People limit each second. So they change it : proc only on critical heal (good change in my opinion), cooldown of 3 seconds and reduce it to hit 6 People, if ZOS want this spell to be use in trials, they have to chose between the cd nerf or the 6 People, but the 2 nerfs together make the spell useless (in my opinion ! Didnt tested it yet !)

Second mistake, so now that power surge is change what does Magsork get for self heal (usefull in vMA for example), so you have to play critical surge, BUT critical surge doesnt give you Major Sorcery, so it force you to play with Degeneration to get the buff...

So you have to choose : or you play with power surge + Entropy to get heal and then can proc power surge every 3 sec,

or

you play with Degeneration + Critical Surge

I think the second option is better for self heal in solo content, if anyone tried it ? I also dont Know if the healing from Power Surge/Critical Surge is scaling with spell damage + max mag/weapon damage + max stam, or is it a flat value ?

good point

Rikkadir

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

What makes you think surge heals on weapon crit only, it uses the highest stat buddy.

Also the heal from SE can crit and can stack, meaning you cast the skill on more then one enemy, you get more heals

Please explain:
'Surge IV' [unmorphed] increases weapon damage by 20% for 33 seconds. Dealing a critical strike (weapon?) heals you for 2550 health.
What stat are you on about, buddy?

Are you also saying that a 'Structured Entropy' heal can be critical, so proccing 'Power Surge' heals, and these stack? And can anybody confirm this, please?

Thanks for the reply, OG_Kaveman, much appreciated.

OG_Kaveman

Rikkadir wrote: »

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

What makes you think surge heals on weapon crit only, it uses the highest stat buddy.

Also the heal from SE can crit and can stack, meaning you cast the skill on more then one enemy, you get more heals

Please explain:
'Surge IV' [unmorphed] increases weapon damage by 20% for 33 seconds. Dealing a critical strike (weapon?) heals you for 2550 health.
What stat are you on about, buddy?

Are you also saying that a 'Structured Entropy' heal can be critical, so proccing 'Power Surge' heals, and these stack? And can anybody confirm this, please?

Thanks for the reply, OG_Kaveman, much appreciated.

it means any critical strike, meaning you can use it on a mag build and it will proc off your spell crit. highest stat mean that it the crit rate scales with whatever stat you have that is highest, like mags stats or stam stats. like a lot of skill in the can now, champ.


of course SE heal can crit and proc power surge but why would you run 2 skills for healing like that. just use SE and you will be fine. i have ran vMA with just the matriarch and SE as heal, with empowered ward. i would same you need to learn how to stay out of red.

Rikkadir

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

it means any critical strike, meaning you can use it on a mag build and it will proc off your spell crit. highest stat mean that it the crit rate scales with whatever stat you have that is highest, like mags stats or stam stats. like a lot of skill in the can now, champ.

I tried all morning and the only heals I got from 'Surge' were from staff heavy attacks.
I always got spell criticals (53% chance) from 'Blockade of Storms' but no heals from 'Surge' I'm sure. I'll have to try it again now you've mentioned "any critical".

Thanks for the reply, mate.