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Revert Momentum and Vigor to their states on Live
xylena_lazarow
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PC/NA || Cyro/BGs || retired until Dagon brings a new dawn of PvP metas
Revert Momentum and Vigor to their states on Live 83 votes
Y
75%
63 votes
N
24%
20 votes
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kalunte✭✭✭✭✭Yi'll be glad to heal for 250 every half second with the brand new kiss-curse thingy. still actual vigor is far better0
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Kadoin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YMomentum without HoT isn't even worth slotting, but that might just be my opinion...2 -
MartiniDaniels✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YReally, no point to change something which worked for years and nobody complained about.7 -
Urusovite✭✭✭NNo because it won't be able to compete against dots. Just rebuff vigor lol... At the very least we get extra regen off rallyPS4 NA
Medium Stam Dk since launch
Technologically incompetent I'm told
Solo play is the only way1 -
Muzzick✭✭✭✭YAlso for if they want it single target still I wouldn't mind one extra second with the same amount of heals per tick so that would 20% more healing and more importantly an extra second1
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Lokey0024✭✭✭✭✭NHoTs negate DoTs and vise versa. Now you guys can show off your l33t combat skills by keeping vigor up 100% while actively blocking or avoiding incoming damage instead of just relying on vigor/rally ticks keeping you topped off 90% of the time.
If you like being OP and 2 button tapdance to win go play Warframe3 -
Crixus8000✭✭✭✭✭
✭NNo because the vigor buff was fine. RR got buffed. And damage this patch has been increased by a lot, especially the dots, so it makes sense to increase healing, not destroy it.
But many thought it was op because idiots posted cheesed tooltips of full wep dmg stamdks, with major vitality, major mending, healing passive, continious attack and keep bonus to get unrealistic numbers.3 -
Vlad9425✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Vigor buff made sense considering they nerfed the 2h heal but now they nerfed both Vigor and the 2h heal so it basically proves they didn't have a clue what they were doing to begin with.6 -
WoppaBoem✭✭✭✭✭YThe start made sense then finish absolute not. Ether go back to the start of this PTS cycle or keep it as live...Xbox EU & NA - PVP Only0 -
Ragnaroek93✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭YZOS reverted the AOE caps, maybe we are lucky and they revert the vigor and momentum changes as well (we just have to wait 3 years).I used to think that PvP was a tragedy, but now I realize, it's a comedy.0 -
Pelican✭✭✭✭✭YAn ability or item that has it's identity and function long established with virtually no issues or complaints should not be adjusted, yet alone reworked.PC NA - EP Solo PvP Player
https://www.youtube.com/c/pelicaneso5 -
Muzzick✭✭✭✭YCrixus8000 wrote: »No because the vigor buff was fine. RR got buffed. And damage this patch has been increased by a lot, especially the dots, so it makes sense to increase healing, not destroy it.
But many thought it was op because idiots posted cheesed tooltips of full wep dmg stamdks, with major vitality, major mending, healing passive, continious attack and keep bonus to get unrealistic numbers.
Agree with your point, the actual yes or no choices in this poll are a little confusing because many people are voting yes as opposed to leaving vigor in it's current
nerfed state in PTSEdited by Muzzick on August 8, 2019 6:55PM1 -
TheHsN✭✭✭✭✭
✭YYes, Pls already have a topic about it earlier...
They don't know what to do... Just try and seePlays:
Magicka SORC - PvE/PvP
Stamina NB - PvE/PvP
Magicka NB - PvE/PvP
Magicka Templar - PvE
Stamina Templar - PvP
Magicka DK - PvE
Stamina DK - PvE0 -
Urzigurumash✭✭✭✭✭
✭YI voted yes, selfishly, because I wear Heavy, but I believe the sole purpose of this change is to better close the gap between Medium and Heavy in PvP. Many thought that Forward Momentum was an overloaded skill that inequitably benefited Heavy. Most Heavy Armor players will continue to use Forward Momentum, as it is the best source of snare removal, but Medium players can use Shuffle and instead choose Rally.
However, I don't see what the problem is with Medium being as common in PvP as Heavy is in PvE, but I wear Heavy in PvP quite happily.
Edit: this comment pertains only to Forward Momentum, and not VigorEdited by Urzigurumash on August 8, 2019 8:57PMXbox NA AD / Day 1 ScrubDK / Wood Orc Cuisine Enthusiast0 -
Mayrael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭N1. Vigor single target healing output wasn't nerfed just changed. Infact it has slightly better HPS now. Stop saying about nerf since first of all buffing Vigor on PTS was just testing and was never on live.
2. Momentum shouldn't give a heal, like ever.
If anything Rally can have it's hot back.I'm done with this game because of ZOS pushing us into Vengeance, because they don't know how to fix Cyrodiil.1 -
Jodynn✭✭✭✭✭
✭YNot even a question , revert it
Go on PTS a "play it out first", I've played it out, it freakin sucks.Jodynn PC NA
PvE and PvP MagDK
The lack of communication from ZOS to player speaks volumes.4 -
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✭✭✭Nbrandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »Not even a question , revert it
Go on PTS a "play it out first", I've played it out, it freakin sucks.
Going on the PTS is not an option for everyone - some of us will need to wait to see.0 -
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✭✭YHoTs negate DoTs and vise versa. Now you guys can show off your l33t combat skills by keeping vigor up 100% while actively blocking or avoiding incoming damage instead of just relying on vigor/rally ticks keeping you topped off 90% of the time.
If you like being OP and 2 button tapdance to win go play Warframe
Except you're forgetting that DoT's were also buffed alongside HoT's, so it still balances out. Vigor basically going back to what it was on live introduces imbalance, because the new Vigor won't be able to keep up with the buffed DoT's, especially since Momentum had its HoT removed.2 -
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✭✭Y1. Vigor single target healing output wasn't nerfed just changed. Infact it has slightly better HPS now. Stop saying about nerf since first of all buffing Vigor on PTS was just testing and was never on live.
2. Momentum shouldn't give a heal, like ever.
If anything Rally can have it's hot back.
Resolving was slightly buffed, and Momentum had its HoT removed entirely, while DoT's were significantly buffed, with at least 1 extra DoT that everybody can now use. See the problem?2 -
Lokey0024✭✭✭✭✭NHoTs negate DoTs and vise versa. Now you guys can show off your l33t combat skills by keeping vigor up 100% while actively blocking or avoiding incoming damage instead of just relying on vigor/rally ticks keeping you topped off 90% of the time.
If you like being OP and 2 button tapdance to win go play Warframe
Except you're forgetting that DoT's were also buffed alongside HoT's, so it still balances out. Vigor basically going back to what it was on live introduces imbalance, because the new Vigor won't be able to keep up with the buffed DoT's, especially since Momentum had its HoT removed.
Sounds like the price of lingering health pots just went up. Maybe the ones with vitality?0 -
sneakymitchell✭✭✭✭YOnly the forward momentum. I did like major envision but with minor endurance sure it’s nice but not everyone going have a lot of recovery unless your a wood elf.NA-Xbox one- Ebonheart Pact- Nord Tank DK
PC-NA Ebonheart Pact Nord Stam Templar0