I still dont understand wtf the balance team is doing. I remember Wrobel mostly ignoring feedback, these guys on the other hand play balance roller coaster based on the forums latest "outcries". Wtf am i supposed to do on for example a stamplar in bgs to heal my teammates? If i run yellow vigor i just cut my healing in half.
Meanwhile on mag i can happily spam RR/Mutagen or whatever class based heal.
@ZOS_Gilliam not everyone plays 6k wpd, major mending heavy armor stamdk, please reconsider the latest vigor nerf.
All its doing is pushing people more and more towards heavy armor, especially with how insanely strong dots will be...

Firstmep wrote: »

I still dont understand wtf the balance team is doing. I remember Wrobel mostly ignoring feedback, these guys on the other hand play balance roller coaster based on the forums latest "outcries". Wtf am i supposed to do on for example a stamplar in bgs to heal my teammates? If i run yellow vigor i just cut my healing in half.
Meanwhile on mag i can happily spam RR/Mutagen or whatever class based heal.
@ZOS_Gilliam not everyone plays 6k wpd, major mending heavy armor stamdk, please reconsider the latest vigor nerf.
All its doing is pushing people more and more towards heavy armor, especially with how insanely strong dots will be...

Just spec to magicka and you're fine :>

Murador178 wrote: »

Firstmep wrote: »

I still dont understand wtf the balance team is doing. I remember Wrobel mostly ignoring feedback, these guys on the other hand play balance roller coaster based on the forums latest "outcries". Wtf am i supposed to do on for example a stamplar in bgs to heal my teammates? If i run yellow vigor i just cut my healing in half.
Meanwhile on mag i can happily spam RR/Mutagen or whatever class based heal.
@ZOS_Gilliam not everyone plays 6k wpd, major mending heavy armor stamdk, please reconsider the latest vigor nerf.
All its doing is pushing people more and more towards heavy armor, especially with how insanely strong dots will be...

They should just give shuffle a hot and put vigor inbetween the buffed version on pts and the now nerfed version imo

@Ragnaroek93 I see ur following ur master @Skander

Just trying to save med armor pffff (not sure if I should do, the upcoming uproar will be funny when 5.1.4 will hit the live server)

Davadin wrote: »

but what's the point of heavy armor? they're sucky too and seventh/fury getting nerfed. at least with medium i can still hurt people.

But with Heavy you still have more survivability that medium.

We were right there, medium was finally going to be viable and a good damage alternative to heavy and then in one fell swoop they laid waste to years of evidence and pleas for medium armor needing a buff. Imo this will go down in ESO history as one of the biggest WTF patches.

Epicasballs wrote: »

BahometZ wrote: »

Firstmep wrote: »

Wtf am i supposed to do on for example a stamplar in bgs to heal my teammates? If i run yellow vigor i just cut my healing in half.
Meanwhile on mag i can happily spam RR/Mutagen or whatever class based heal.

One is a healer spec, one is not a healer spec. :thinking:

You don't need to spec as a healer to have resto backbar. Even as dps you're going to have great healing tooltips because mag based dmg and heals pull from the same stats. Plus mag has class heals, stam largely does not. Mag also has bubbles. On top of better healing. Mag also has sets and skillls that can purge negative effects.

mag based dmg and heals pull from the same stats

oh this is mag specific?

Damn, and here I thought building into max stamina and weapon damage would increase my vigor tooltip...

PvP crying cuz to much healing
Zos nerf all heal
PvP crying cuz they can't heal enough

ZzzzzZZzz

Just make a different stat for heal so ppl can't abuse it and would make healer more important everywhere.

LeHarrt91 wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

but what's the point of heavy armor? they're sucky too and seventh/fury getting nerfed. at least with medium i can still hurt people.

But with Heavy you still have more survivability that medium.

how? my resist isn't that much more, and all im getting is slightly better heal and health regen.

LeHarrt91 wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

LeHarrt91 wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

but what's the point of heavy armor? they're sucky too and seventh/fury getting nerfed. at least with medium i can still hurt people.

But with Heavy you still have more survivability that medium.

how? my resist isn't that much more, and all im getting is slightly better heal and health regen.

Well you get more Max Health, Resistance, health regen, increase healing received, resoruces when hit and in terms of sets like Fury and 7th you get weapon damage to increase your healing and damage. Making it easier to handle multiple attacks and allowing you to slip up and recover easier.
I will probably use medium tho because im stubborn like that.

in my build tho....
1. i get more 2000 health. yay?
2. 800 more resistance. wow, huge 3% more resistant!
3. 300 more health regen. game breaking!


what are these "resources when hit"? coz as 2H stamDK, I don't really do Heavy Attacks....

also, my med build includes 7th jewel and wep for the heals and bonus 500 wpd... so now im swapping to armor instead.

Davadin wrote: »

LeHarrt91 wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

LeHarrt91 wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

but what's the point of heavy armor? they're sucky too and seventh/fury getting nerfed. at least with medium i can still hurt people.

But with Heavy you still have more survivability that medium.

how? my resist isn't that much more, and all im getting is slightly better heal and health regen.

Well you get more Max Health, Resistance, health regen, increase healing received, resoruces when hit and in terms of sets like Fury and 7th you get weapon damage to increase your healing and damage. Making it easier to handle multiple attacks and allowing you to slip up and recover easier.
I will probably use medium tho because im stubborn like that.

in my build tho....
1. i get more 2000 health. yay?
2. 800 more resistance. wow, huge 3% more resistant!
3. 300 more health regen. game breaking!


what are these "resources when hit"? coz as 2H stamDK, I don't really do Heavy Attacks....

also, my med build includes 7th jewel and wep for the heals and bonus 500 wpd... so now im swapping to armor instead.

As Tolino said above, Heavy Armor pieces have more armor resistance than the other armor weights, so on top of the 300+ you get per heavy armor slotted.

you get 2% more health per piece slotted, say 5 pieces that 10% on top of say an Imperial Wardens health with 2000 health and 10% already from minor Toughness.

4% health regen per piece slotted. when using Artuem Broth, 7th Legion (350 recovery) and Troll King...

the resources when hit is the Constitution passive you get both magicka and stamina.



you get my drift?

Tolino wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

in my build tho....
1. i get more 2000 health. yay?
2. 800 more resistance. wow, huge 3% more resistant!
3. 300 more health regen. game breaking!


what are these "resources when hit"? coz as 2H stamDK, I don't really do Heavy Attacks....

also, my med build includes 7th jewel and wep for the heals and bonus 500 wpd... so now im swapping to armor instead.

HEAVY:
Chest=2772
Helm/Shoulder/Legs/Boots=2425 (per)
Gloves=1386
Belt=1039

MEDIUM
Chest=2084
Helm/Shoulder/Legs/Boots=1823 (per)
Gloves=1042
Belt=781

LIGHT
Chest=1396
Helm/Shoulder/Legs/Boots=1221 (per)
Gloves=698
Belt=523


You have ~2k more resistance. And don't underestimate the Heal/Health bonus.

hell something wrong with my build then.

i got under 1K resist increase when switching to 7th heavy and Deadly, from deadly (or sword-singer) med and 7th.

still under 19k phys resist unbuffed.

master_vanargand wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

Tolino wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

in my build tho....
1. i get more 2000 health. yay?
2. 800 more resistance. wow, huge 3% more resistant!
3. 300 more health regen. game breaking!


what are these "resources when hit"? coz as 2H stamDK, I don't really do Heavy Attacks....

also, my med build includes 7th jewel and wep for the heals and bonus 500 wpd... so now im swapping to armor instead.

HEAVY:
Chest=2772
Helm/Shoulder/Legs/Boots=2425 (per)
Gloves=1386
Belt=1039

MEDIUM
Chest=2084
Helm/Shoulder/Legs/Boots=1823 (per)
Gloves=1042
Belt=781

LIGHT
Chest=1396
Helm/Shoulder/Legs/Boots=1221 (per)
Gloves=698
Belt=523


You have ~2k more resistance. And don't underestimate the Heal/Health bonus.

hell something wrong with my build then.

i got under 1K resist increase when switching to 7th heavy and Deadly, from deadly (or sword-singer) med and 7th.

still under 19k phys resist unbuffed.

Hint1: Champion System
Hint2: The Steed
Hint3: Medium Armor Focus

so hint1 and hint3 is the same?