BRogueNZ wrote: »

Magicka to jump, now I've heard it all.

Hearing it all will also cost Magicka.

ZOS are you going to fix this or take action on the exploiters? This exploiter literally breaks pvp.

rosendoichinoveb17_ESO wrote: »

Actually Yes it is an exploit as you can move faster when long jumping rather than sprinting. A lot of people use it for score runs or time runs. So if everyone in the group used it they could finish something like 10 seconds faster which adds to the score.

Also in Halls of Fabrication last boss the offtank can long jump from one platform to another without the need to go around the stairs. So you tell me if it is an exploit or not.

I would never report anyone of respect to the players but it needs to be patched.

Why would you not report a cheater if it was used to gain an unfair advantage? would would you respect a cheater? just curious about this argument.

Jayman1000 wrote: »

rosendoichinoveb17_ESO wrote: »

Actually Yes it is an exploit as you can move faster when long jumping rather than sprinting. A lot of people use it for score runs or time runs. So if everyone in the group used it they could finish something like 10 seconds faster which adds to the score.

Also in Halls of Fabrication last boss the offtank can long jump from one platform to another without the need to go around the stairs. So you tell me if it is an exploit or not.

I would never report anyone of respect to the players but it needs to be patched.

Why would you not report a cheater if it was used to gain an unfair advantage? would would you respect a cheater? just curious about this argument.

Think about it. Using this exploit either than for fun in PvE it will benefit only the top end players which do nodeath hardmode speedruns. So not only some of those people are my friends, but reporting them will also result in a lot of backlash from a lot of the hardcore players and they will refuse to take me for Immortal Redeemer or Gryphon Heart score runs anymore. But it doesn't matter anymore because I only do questing now due to the pressure in playing so competitively.

But remember people are greedy they will do exploits if allowed to. People kept quiet about some trial and dungeon exploits for years and made a lot of gold because of that.

Also when some OP sets come out people intentionally do not talk about them. Example: not so op but when Spell Strategist set came out a lot of top end players knew how strong it was and it took a few weeks after the patch went live for that information to come out.

And this bunny hoop or long jump whatever you call it has been in the game for years. I remember learning about it when the offtank was doing it of one of the first guilds that did Tik Tok Tormentor achievement. Wont name his name.

Let’s just take a second and appreciate that the mechanism for “bunny hopping” is based off of sprinting real fast right before you jump.

Crazy that sprinting before a jump would allow you to jump faster / farther.

Yes you have to time it just right, and donit in the right order, but that makes it exactly the same as animation cancelling a light attack

thermatico wrote: »

I say that they just take jumping out of the game altogether. Jumping is so unbalanced and causing too much server lag.

#disablejumping2019

Oh boy I should have never made this thread

Nerf Jumping 😂

VaranisArano wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Aliyavana wrote: »

if bunny hopping ever gets a cost increase, then snipe should get one too.

Increase? Jumping doesnt cost anything atm. It needs a cost period. Anyone who is remotely athletic can say that continuous jumping is hella tiring.

So is jogging everywhere.

So if we really wanna be realistic here, let's go back to TES 3 Morrowind. We can slow-a** walk everywhere while all jogging costs stamina!


...on second thought, maybe not a great idea.

late to comment but no

I say this as an athlete. you can jog pretty indefinitely (baring need of resources, food, water, etc.) as long as you know how, what I mean by that is most people sprint, or jog "too fast" as its not something that is taught in basic gym or anything like that. the teachers and coaches just say "run this arbitrary distance in around this arbitrary amount of time" and don't teach form or technique.

its the human edge over wildlife, we don't have fur and thus can sweat and that's better for heat management over long term exertion, where as most wildlife has to pant to regulate body heat.

we "exhaust" our prey to death, sure most wildlife can outrun a human, no problem, we sprint like crap. but we have better endurance and can just keep going. we also have positive mental triggers attached to jogging, the "runners high", the ONLY other animal this is seen in is dogs.

jumping on the other hand requires more muscle use and loss of glycogen (what your muscles use) muscles only have so much glycogen at a time (enough for 12 solid reps, this is where 12 comes from in weight training) before your muscles start to hypertrophy (the burn) and you also tear muscle fiber.

you can only jump so many times before your body simply cannot anymore, it will run out of fuel, and the muscles will breakdown, this breakdown takes day(s) to rebuild.

where as something like sprinting is cardio rather then specific muscle exertion, you could sprint between breaks pretty consistently (as we see in game mechanics) as long as your not sprinting up steep inclines that are requiring more out of specific muscles.


there is FAAAAAAAR more to it then that but that's the quick and dirty.


however im not one to say "its this in real life SOOOOO" in regards to gameplay.

I AM one to say people jumping around like dumb fortnite 12 year old kids that don't have a pair look ridiculous and we should re examine if that's how we want gameplay to look.

jump should be used for jumping, why and when do we need to be able to jump and should / is it working correctly.

I personally feel that jumping should have a cost. it should also allow you to jump a bit higher, a bit further, and have a bit more control over your direction and speed while in the air.

so jumping should be the same as any other action, have a purpose, and have a cost.


NOT this dumb 12 year old have to keep jumping like a fortnite kiddy because I have the attention span of a squirrel and subsist on nothing but energy drinks and pixie sticks jump around nonsense we have now.