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An Indefeasible Proof Between the Comparison of Hardened Ward in LIVE and PTS

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  • GeneralSezme
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  • Teeba_Shei
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    PTS - 42k MAGICKA
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    LIVE - 40k MAGICKA
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    That cost increase and shield nerf YIKES. They really want to kill magicka sorc.



  • Jadokis
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    WOW. I am NOT OKAY with THAT
  • Heatnix90
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    "this is a buff if you don't play magicka sorc"

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  • Gorrest
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    This is a buff if you have less than 19k health
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  • frostz417
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    No need to slot shields lmao
  • WuffyCerulei
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    I’m just going Empowered Ward next patch. Lower cost, longer duration, and extra magikca recovery.
    "Buzz Lightyear toy isle shot" Stormcalling/Animal Companions/Assassination PVP build hater

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  • SirAndy
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    Exactly, most people won't ever even get close to the 60% cap, so increasing the cap from 50% to 60% did absolutely nothing for shields ...
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  • Derra
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    I’m just going Empowered Ward next patch. Lower cost, longer duration, and extra magikca recovery.

    I hope you don’t plan to pvp with a 6k shield
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  • ThePedge
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    Great news.
  • MaxJrFTW
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    A class that needed a nerf got nerfed. I don't see what's the problem.
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  • Aedaryl
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    MaxJrFTW wrote: »
    A class that needed a nerf got nerfed. I don't see what's the problem.

    You need to l2p then.

    Sorc was dealing too much pressure because overpowered matriarch and sustaining too easely because harness magicka.

    SO :

    Matriarch got overnerfed to useless where is value doesn't justify it's double bar.

    Harness sustain was rightfully gutted.

    HARDENED was not a problem, nerfing hardened cost just make sorc unsustainable. With live hardened and no harness magsorc sustain is already the WORST by far. Now it's not even playable.

    On top of that sorc benefit far less from HoT buffs because no healing synergy + Shields already doesn't perform well in a DoT meta.

    The cherry is that sorc is no longer a range class because the only good stun is a melee one.

    Not being able to sustain, loosing the best class dot, having the worst defense and being forced to melee on a range designed class and YOU DON'T SEE THE PROBLEM ?
  • Seraphayel
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    PTS - 42k MAGICKA
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    LIVE - 40k MAGICKA
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    That cost increase and shield nerf YIKES. They really want to kill magicka sorc.



    They haven’t achieved this within 5 years so... MagSorc will be fine as it’s always been for PvP. MagSorc was never in ESOs lifetime bad in PvP.
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  • GeneralSezme
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    MaxJrFTW wrote: »
    A class that needed a nerf got nerfed. I don't see what's the problem.

    “Lets nerf a defensive abillity because sorc offense is too strong”

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    Neraz Gulio- Stamplar- Former Empress BWB
    Paints-Her-Face - prolly painted your face
    Zealot of the Great Sun- Blazeplar, frmr Emp Vivec


  • Dracane
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    So much foolishness. This class feels like a stranger to me at this point. What is the purpose and identity anymore ?
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    Trinimac is my shield,
    Magnus is my mind.

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  • Heatnix90
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    MaxJrFTW wrote: »
    A class that needed a nerf got nerfed. I don't see what's the problem.

    Meanwhile magicka Templars, whose healing was already slightly overtuned, received a skill that allows them to remain functionally immortal for a short period of time, in the form of Living Dark.

    Clearly needed the boost in survivability /s
  • CGPsaint
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    Increase cost.

    Reduce effectiveness.

    Call it a buff.

    Makes Sense.
  • No_Division
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    Heatnix90 wrote: »
    MaxJrFTW wrote: »
    A class that needed a nerf got nerfed. I don't see what's the problem.

    Meanwhile magicka Templars, whose healing was already slightly overtuned, received a skill that allows them to remain functionally immortal for a short period of time, in the form of Living Dark.

    Clearly needed the boost in survivability /s

    at least you can defile and cause them to overpurge with dot stack now that living dark doesnt heal when dots are applied lol.
  • Jodynn
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    SirAndy wrote: »
    Exactly, most people won't ever even get close to the 60% cap, so increasing the cap from 50% to 60% did absolutely nothing for shields ...
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    it's only noticeable in PvE which isn't even needed.
    Jodynn PC NA
    PvE and PvP MagDK
    The lack of communication from ZOS to player speaks volumes.
  • Deloth_Vyrr
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    This change was needed to make the Bastion CP skill actually do something. Right now on Live I can hit the max (50% of HP) shield with 0 points in Bastion making it entirely worthless. On PTS I need to put some points in it to reach 60%.
    Edited by Deloth_Vyrr on August 6, 2019 5:29PM
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  • Jodynn
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    This change was needed to make the Bastion CP skill actually do something. Right now on Live I can hit the max (50% of HP) shield with 0 points in Bastion making it entirely worthless. On PTS I need to put some points in it to reach 60%.

    Bastion is stupid inefficient.
    Jodynn PC NA
    PvE and PvP MagDK
    The lack of communication from ZOS to player speaks volumes.
  • Deloth_Vyrr
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    This change was needed to make the Bastion CP skill actually do something. Right now on Live I can hit the max (50% of HP) shield with 0 points in Bastion making it entirely worthless. On PTS I need to put some points in it to reach 60%.

    Bastion is stupid inefficient.

    Doesn't change the fact that the CP star should do *something*, even if its not an optimal choice.

    On Live, any magicka DPS maxes out the 50% HP of shields with 0 points in bastion making it not just inefficient, but completely pointless for even existing. It should take some amount of points in Bastion to reach max shield otherwise why does it exist?
    Edited by Deloth_Vyrr on August 6, 2019 7:38PM
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  • Jodynn
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    This change was needed to make the Bastion CP skill actually do something. Right now on Live I can hit the max (50% of HP) shield with 0 points in Bastion making it entirely worthless. On PTS I need to put some points in it to reach 60%.

    Bastion is stupid inefficient.

    Doesn't change the fact that the CP star should do *something*, even if its not an optimal choice.

    On Live, any magicka DPS maxes out the 50% HP of shields with 0 points in bastion making it not just inefficient, but completely pointless for even existing. It should take some amount of points in Bastion to reach max shield otherwise why does it exist?

    It still does things in PvP, just it's not worth it, in PvE it can still be used if you use spell sym first :^)
    Jodynn PC NA
    PvE and PvP MagDK
    The lack of communication from ZOS to player speaks volumes.
  • Canned_Apples
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    lol at l2p.
    I've seen several decent players dying to a sorc as they bashed on its shields while it tossed 7k crystal frags.
    Broken class is broken.
  • Witar
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    If they got 7k frags they are anything but decent.
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  • Canned_Apples
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    Witar wrote: »
    If they got 7k frags they are anything but decent.

    No CP.
  • Heatnix90
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    Heatnix90 wrote: »
    MaxJrFTW wrote: »
    A class that needed a nerf got nerfed. I don't see what's the problem.

    Meanwhile magicka Templars, whose healing was already slightly overtuned, received a skill that allows them to remain functionally immortal for a short period of time, in the form of Living Dark.

    Clearly needed the boost in survivability /s

    at least you can defile and cause them to overpurge with dot stack now that living dark doesnt heal when dots are applied lol.

    Right because the magplar simply can't purge the dots, LOS and meditate to regen resources.
    lol at l2p.
    I've seen several decent players dying to a sorc as they bashed on its shields while it tossed 7k crystal frags.
    Broken class is broken.

    Lol, let's nerf the defensive aspect of sorcs because their offensive aspect is causing a flood of forum tears.

    Thread's full of galaxy-brain logic
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