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Some bow/bow build queries
sindalstar
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Hi yall.
So if yall could be so kind, I'd like to ask if anyone could do some testing (or theory testing) for me.
Q1) tzogvins-warband vs lightweight trap
So Lightweight got a buff recently with it's duration. Good for it.
Do you think it's worth using this ina rotation (adds another dot to the pile) and swapping out Tzogvins for a different set? Or is Tzogvin's inherent always on force and extra crit winning out in the end due to it's ease?
Is the difference even worth caring about?
If Q1's answer is Lightweight:
Q2)What do you guys think would be a good replacement set for it? Any ideas?
I ask because farming tzogvin's was hard work. I like the set. But I've always had a bit of a softspot for lightweight as a really cool 'archery' kinda trapmove though I can't realy have both.
Edited by sindalstar on August 6, 2019 3:56PM So if yall could be so kind, I'd like to ask if anyone could do some testing (or theory testing) for me.
Q1) tzogvins-warband vs lightweight trap
So Lightweight got a buff recently with it's duration. Good for it.
Do you think it's worth using this ina rotation (adds another dot to the pile) and swapping out Tzogvins for a different set? Or is Tzogvin's inherent always on force and extra crit winning out in the end due to it's ease?
Is the difference even worth caring about?
If Q1's answer is Lightweight:
Q2)What do you guys think would be a good replacement set for it? Any ideas?
I ask because farming tzogvin's was hard work. I like the set. But I've always had a bit of a softspot for lightweight as a really cool 'archery' kinda trapmove though I can't realy have both.
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DoonerSeraph✭✭✭✭*Shoots a signaling arrow for @SodanTok *
From what I saw in his thread (on phone, so no link, sorry), LW trap beats Tzogvins now.
I would recommend Briarheart as a front bar set, solid WD boost and some healing to boot.0 -
sindalstar✭✭✭DoonerSeraph wrote: »*Shoots a signaling arrow for @SodanTok *
From what I saw in his thread (on phone, so no link, sorry), LW trap beats Tzogvins now.
I would recommend Briarheart as a front bar set, solid WD boost and some healing to boot.
Can you remember how long ago that thread was made? I can do a scan...
It's a good thing I still have my briarheart stuff lying around!0 -
SodanTok✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭There is no valid reason to not use LW trap anymore. Other than hating how its sometimes hard to land and how it has the built-in delay affecting speed of rotation with high ping quite noticeably (something melee trap doesnt have), but thats deemed as important as avoiding Orcs for their looks
It is simply probably 2nd or 3rd strongest ranged ability at your disposal.
And since you will get quite good (80-100%) uptime on minor force from it already it unfortunately makes Tzogvin quite meh. If you dont want to switch to Lokke which is just OP, you can try sticking with Tzog. Its not gonna be better than good old briarheart in ideal situations but you may still get good stuff from it in combat. After all, trap is horrible skill to use when stuff is moving.0 -
sindalstar✭✭✭There is no valid reason to not use LW trap anymore. Other than hating how its sometimes hard to land and how it has the built-in delay affecting speed of rotation with high ping quite noticeably (something melee trap doesnt have), but thats deemed as important as avoiding Orcs for their looks
It is simply probably 2nd or 3rd strongest ranged ability at your disposal.
And since you will get quite good (80-100%) uptime on minor force from it already it unfortunately makes Tzogvin quite meh. If you dont want to switch to Lokke which is just OP, you can try sticking with Tzog. Its not gonna be better than good old briarheart in ideal situations but you may still get good stuff from it in combat. After all, trap is horrible skill to use when stuff is moving.
Much appreciated for the quick feedback!
I'm not really bummed out really. More bummed that I worked my butt off trying to get the rings and had to deal with THE LAZER ROOM OF O *** in vetPUGs and now lightweight comes jogging up like "Oh hey, I did some pushups and I'm worth it now"
Either way, I can fish my briarheart out from my bank and slap it on. I kinda missed it TBH
If anyone else has some supporting info feel free to leave it. Happy to get more insight.
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sindalstar✭✭✭Austinseph1 wrote: »This is all good to know just before I started farming tzogvins XD
I got you fam XD0 -
kalunte✭✭✭✭✭well, on dummies, LW may be better, in real fights Tzog is far better and can be used in a "front bar only" set since it lasts 10s.
it offers a very high uptime in all situations regardless if you're good or bad, and stacks to full in less than 3sec in ideal situation.
it really depends on what you intend to put in your bars tho.0 -
Olupajmibanan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭If you can replace Tzogvin with Lokkestiiz than go for it and just slot Lightweight trap. It is worth it, the trap alone does a lot of damage.Edited by Olupajmibanan on August 6, 2019 5:22PM0
