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It feels like the new team has no clue what they are doing?
Nemesis7884
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Is that just me? But the changes are confusing, all over the place, completly lack direction or cohesion...stuff that doesnt play out as intended gets a weird bandaid with a "fix later" label.
Am I just not seing the grand master strateg and do you still have confidence?
Because it seems to me more and more that the new team seems completly overwhelmed and has no idea where they are heading...
This whole affair really starts sucking my motivation dry.
Am I just not seing the grand master strateg and do you still have confidence?
Because it seems to me more and more that the new team seems completly overwhelmed and has no idea where they are heading...
This whole affair really starts sucking my motivation dry.
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OtarTheMad✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The way I see it, and maybe I'm wrong but just imo. It's like you're watching an old movie from like the 90's but while you are watching the old movie they are redoing it to match 2019 standards of definition. It can look confusing.0 -
Ramber✭✭✭✭you have to wonder. They say they listen all the time but they never point to what they listened to. These changes are so unnecessary i dont get it either.26 -
Priyasekarssk✭✭✭✭✭Nemesis7884 wrote: »Is that just me? But the changes are confusing, all over the place, completly lack direction or cohesion...stuff that doesnt play out as intended gets a weird bandaid with a "fix later" label.
Am I just not seing the grand master strateg and do you still have confidence?
Because it seems to me more and more that the new team seems completly overwhelmed and has no idea where they are heading...
This whole affair really starts sucking my motivation dry.
They are doing what noob streamers asked. They only listen to noob idiots with no skill. They are the pros of this game. Outside this game, everyone *** about them. See ORC racial passive. A race can tank , self heal ,DPS , sprint and do *** load of damage. You can guess where all these patch notes are coming from.
If you talking about confidence, I can definitely tell there wont be a gaming company called ZOs 10 years from now. Even the biggest fool on earth will not believe this fix anything in the game.Edited by Priyasekarssk on August 6, 2019 4:39PM14 -
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✭✭OtarTheMad wrote: »The way I see it, and maybe I'm wrong but just imo. It's like you're watching an old movie from like the 90's but while you are watching the old movie they are redoing it to match 2019 standards of definition. It can look confusing.
Ghostbusters?Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
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Runefang✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It's no worse than cast times on shields. It was a terrible idea because they didn't think of all the reasons why it wouldn't work.
The last PTS patch cycle felt the same, a lot of pendulum swinging from nerf to buff to nerf. Incap changes spring to mind.6 -
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✭✭✭✭✭they know exactly what they are doing
and thier fixing the problems in eso.
it's just taking a long time because the fixes require alot of work.1 -
Priyasekarssk✭✭✭✭✭they know exactly what they are doing
and thier fixing the problems in eso.
it's just taking a long time because the fixes require alot of work.
Even the dumbest fool on earth will not believe ZOs are fixing the issues. Only thing I agree they know what they are doing. Pathetic pay to win garbage for the noob paid streamers. Keep trying [snip]. Making DC races super overpowered races tells what ZOs up to and who is behind the balancing. ZOs are shooting their own foot by giving control to wrong hands. Cancers are just leaching the ZOs, Bethesda and elder scroll name.
Selfish garbage rather than fixing anything in the game. I am not sure what ZOs shareholders are doing?
Come on, guys. Joke for this year. All lags in ESO is fixed in scale breaker. ESO is not paid to win. ESO PVP prime time will be filled with 10000+ people.
[Edit for bait.]Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on August 6, 2019 4:27AM12 -
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✭✭Remember when Wrobel and his team had no idea what they where doing? You know like after every patch, people complained. And it's almost like one guy that had one idea and vision for combat quit and there's another guy with a WHOLE different vision and way of doing things. Like they're two different people.8 -
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✭✭they know exactly what they are doing
and thier fixing the problems in eso.
it's just taking a long time because the fixes require alot of work.
The fact that you support the changes is part of the reason no one has confidence in them.PC/NA — Daggerfall Covenant — BGs, Kaalgrontiid
Kalazar Chalhoub — Redguard Nord Stamplar
Kalaron Caemor — Altmer Magsorc
Kalahad Cirith — Dunmer Magden30 -
KingExecration✭✭✭✭I’d be down to trash the patch, just make the game playable again. It’s almost worse than in clockwork when if you died and couldn’t get a rez you’d have to restart the game.5
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The_Auror✭✭✭It honestly feels like they are balancing with a roulette table. Whatever the wheel stops on next week is what we get. They throw out huge game-altering changes weekly with no real chance to test.
I don't understand why we never get smaller tweaks and adjustments. Something slightly over-performing? Better full on nuke it. If its so bad no one uses it anymore there's no need to worry if you balanced it correctly.
There also doesn't seem to be much communication despite the dev team being so small. The right hand doesn't speak to the left, everything is done in a vacuum with zero care or regard for any game-wide implications.31 -
BattleAxe✭✭✭✭✭Seriously someone in here said it people complain after every patch does that mean the patch overall is bad no so people need to revamp their builds this happens frequently enough anyway. Now I’m not for every change ZoS has made this patch but combat is moving in a good direction. After this patch future changes will probably be much simpler as they will simply adjust the bar of their standards to nerf or buff something. Also keep in mind the possible rework adjustments and such to cp have not been addressed either1 -
WeylandLabs✭✭✭✭✭You can tell they are mathatical geniuses. Unfortunately throerycrafting in a creative aspect isn't there strongest attribute.
I look forward to challenging there balance in Scalebreaker 👍Edited by WeylandLabs on August 6, 2019 5:31AM3 -
ebix_✭✭✭✭Seriously someone in here said it people complain after every patch does that mean the patch overall is bad no so people need to revamp their builds this happens frequently enough anyway. Now I’m not for every change ZoS has made this patch but combat is moving in a good direction. After this patch future changes will probably be much simpler as they will simply adjust the bar of their standards to nerf or buff something. Also keep in mind the possible rework adjustments and such to cp have not been addressed either
what's the point of all these changes then ...when they are trying to rework something like cp system ? if the new system is going to be different then it's going to impact game in different ways so they have to change all they doing again .
isn't it more reasonable to finish and introduce their replacement for cp system then balance game around the new system instead of changing each skill 5times over one pts cycle ?Edited by ebix_ on August 6, 2019 5:39AM11 -
BattleAxe✭✭✭✭✭Seriously someone in here said it people complain after every patch does that mean the patch overall is bad no so people need to revamp their builds this happens frequently enough anyway. Now I’m not for every change ZoS has made this patch but combat is moving in a good direction. After this patch future changes will probably be much simpler as they will simply adjust the bar of their standards to nerf or buff something. Also keep in mind the possible rework adjustments and such to cp have not been addressed either
what's the point of all these changes then ...when they are trying to rework something like cp system ? if the new system is going to be different then it's going to impact game in different ways so they have to change all they doing again .
isn't it more reasonable to finish and introduce their replacement for cp system then balance game around the new system instead of changing each skill 5times over one pts cycle ?
The new cp system is gonna be based around these new standards they implemented which still functions with current cp
Edit autocorrect issuesEdited by BattleAxe on August 6, 2019 6:28AM1 -
pattyLtd✭✭✭✭✭I have no idea why they do what they do over and over again.
Only fools keep making the same mistakes over and over though.
Its not about performance or fix problems, you cant fix problems by changing everything at once.
Only thing i feel like is that they just change skills so we are forced to use other once, no idea why.
Need remorph blockade of elements now, entrophy instead of power surge, my beloved magsorc will be dead on the ground.
It’s real annoying to have somethimg you love so much and do to relax bit and have fun after work change so excessively all the time.English is not my native language, no grammar police please, tyvm3 -
Rerum✭✭✭It's called "Our team have vision". But when everyone are blind it's hard to make such changes. All mag classes the same now, every stamina except necro not needed too, you even don't need to lvl your abilities, just vMA weapons + flurry and go ahead. Endgame just dead now. Good job ZOS.4
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Faulgor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The ability audit has had more direction and cohesion than any other balance patches we have seen in 5 years. Where have you been all that time?
Does that mean the game is finally balanced or that everything is fine now? Hell no. Even really nonsensical changes like Power Surge snuck in at the last minute like they do almost every PTS cycle. But we knew from the very beginning what their intentions were with this update, what they were going to do and why they thought it had to be done. Again, that's more than we've gotten ever before in terms of direction.Alandrol Sul: He's making another Numidium?!?
Vivec: Worse, buddy. They're buying it.4 -
Rerum✭✭✭The ability audit has had more direction and cohesion than any other balance patches we have seen in 5 years. Where have you been all that time?
Does that mean the game is finally balanced or that everything is fine now? Hell no. Even really nonsensical changes like Power Surge snuck in at the last minute like they do almost every PTS cycle. But we knew from the very beginning what their intentions were with this update, what they were going to do and why they thought it had to be done. Again, that's more than we've gotten ever before in terms of direction.
PVE wise we got identical mag/stam dps with same skills. No point in any class now. Just pick up necro.
Also they making fixes for new sets...great, but some of the sets just not working on pts. They have no clue what they are doing. Still no fixes for necro abilities, that can turn you around and just not allow you to use them. All this "balance" is dumb when basis not working properly.6 -
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✭✭✭The change to eternal warrior is stupid. It should have been left untouched
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BattleAxe✭✭✭✭✭The ability audit has had more direction and cohesion than any other balance patches we have seen in 5 years. Where have you been all that time?
Does that mean the game is finally balanced or that everything is fine now? Hell no. Even really nonsensical changes like Power Surge snuck in at the last minute like they do almost every PTS cycle. But we knew from the very beginning what their intentions were with this update, what they were going to do and why they thought it had to be done. Again, that's more than we've gotten ever before in terms of direction.
PVE wise we got identical mag/stam dps with same skills. No point in any class now. Just pick up necro.
Also they making fixes for new sets...great, but some of the sets just not working on pts. They have no clue what they are doing. Still no fixes for necro abilities, that can turn you around and just not allow you to use them. All this "balance" is dumb when basis not working properly.
Who said you had to use the exact same skills as everyone else sure there is the meta. Doesn’t mean you have to follow the herd to the exact skill set up and point for point on cp system.1 -
Rerum✭✭✭The ability audit has had more direction and cohesion than any other balance patches we have seen in 5 years. Where have you been all that time?
Does that mean the game is finally balanced or that everything is fine now? Hell no. Even really nonsensical changes like Power Surge snuck in at the last minute like they do almost every PTS cycle. But we knew from the very beginning what their intentions were with this update, what they were going to do and why they thought it had to be done. Again, that's more than we've gotten ever before in terms of direction.
PVE wise we got identical mag/stam dps with same skills. No point in any class now. Just pick up necro.
Also they making fixes for new sets...great, but some of the sets just not working on pts. They have no clue what they are doing. Still no fixes for necro abilities, that can turn you around and just not allow you to use them. All this "balance" is dumb when basis not working properly.
Who said you had to use the exact same skills as everyone else sure there is the meta. Doesn’t mean you have to follow the herd to the exact skill set up and point for point on cp system.
If you want to be efficient you will use it. To be clear i'm talking vet non craglorn trials and their HM's. Every content below this not require meta, this is true. If you want to pull good dps you should use this non class abilities. Check Liko's latest parse for magnecro and you will see how you play all magicka classes in future patch.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The main problem is imho that they use rocket-propelled sledge hammer to balance the game, instead of some precice surgical tool. Balance will be never achived that way, as huge changes will always cause huge disproportions making one thing totally useless and the other ultra OP.
WW & Onslaught are good examples. Both are powerfull on live (but not OP), yet becuse one recived huge nerf (WW) and the other huge buff (Onslaught) one will be useless, and the other OP next patch. That would not have happened if the nerfs / buffs were small.14 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Nemesis7884 wrote: »Because it seems to me more and more that the new team seems completly overwhelmed and has no idea where they are heading...
They seem to be chasing butterflies with a fork. No such thing as subtle changes, everything has to be bouncing from one extreme to another. Seems like they are in panic mode with some sort of artificial deadline that doesn't permit gradual changes. And I agree, they do seem to be a bit overwhelmed and underdirected.7 -
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✭Not the new team like they said ZOS is killing it right one player at a time another one down 5 years wasted1 -
JWillCHS✭✭✭Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »The main problem is imho that they use rocket-propelled sledge hammer to balance the game, instead of some precice surgical tool. Balance will be never achived that way, as huge changes will always cause huge disproportions making one thing totally useless and the other ultra OP.
WW & Onslaught are good examples. Both are powerfull on live (but not OP), yet becuse one recived huge nerf (WW) and the other huge buff (Onslaught) one will be useless, and the other OP next patch. That would not have happened if the nerfs / buffs were small.
Hrm. I really don't think the game can be balanced the way people expect. I've been playing this game since 2014.
There are reasons why people play the Elder Scrolls Online and it's definitely not the balance; but the versatility. If you wanted anything close to balance in a theme park why don't you play a MMORPG where you wear a specific armor type, can only use your class skills, have a certain weapon type, equipment designed for your class, and vertical character progression with a ceiling. Even the games I just describe have their issue, but in most cases they have a easier time tuning things.
When people talk about the shield nerfs, ultimates having cast times, healing changes, and DoT damage I don't understand what they expect out ESO.
To be honest I like when they do stuff like this. Nobody is leaving since the game oddly enough continues to grow. I'm just waiting for those Magdens to finally be on the top with replies to patch notes that say, "this is BS".2 -
Priyasekarssk✭✭✭✭✭Seriously someone in here said it people complain after every patch does that mean the patch overall is bad no so people need to revamp their builds this happens frequently enough anyway. Now I’m not for every change ZoS has made this patch but combat is moving in a good direction. After this patch future changes will probably be much simpler as they will simply adjust the bar of their standards to nerf or buff something. Also keep in mind the possible rework adjustments and such to cp have not been addressed either
what's the point of all these changes then ...when they are trying to rework something like cp system ? if the new system is going to be different then it's going to impact game in different ways so they have to change all they doing again .
isn't it more reasonable to finish and introduce their replacement for cp system then balance game around the new system instead of changing each skill 5times over one pts cycle ?
The new cp system is gonna be based around these new standards they implemented which still functions with current cp
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Let me tell you. You are trying too hard for a paid troll. When I bought this game, BDO is just trash with trash reviews. They didn't give a *** about noob streamers and idiots opinion. They balance based on what needs to be done.
BDO released way after ESO and started with huge negative reviews under no banner. ESO released after Skyrim one of the epic games of all time. Do you want the stats now?
BDO gets at least twice the stream views and active players than ESO. You don't have to trust me. Go and check the stats yourself. Even in prime time PVP player's population is just about 1000. BDO has crossed 18 million players comfortably beat ESO even after releasing 2 years after ESO. Even 2 years back ESO is way ahead of BDO. Now I am wondering why I bought ESO?
When you are guys going to get awake and do some real work before you become bankrupt? Always some paid trolls come insult and never acknowledge any shortcomings in the game. The gaming industry is almost out of US soil.
You guys are not fooling us. You guys fool yourself. Give what customers want or get lost in time. Customers are not here to buy what you sell. Customers always want to buy what they want.Edited by Priyasekarssk on August 7, 2019 3:50AM14
