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Resolving Nerfed

Wuuffyy
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Title... Saw.that.coming.

For example. 10k vigor after 80% buff =18k...

Then after 25% nerf... 13.5k

Only a 35% buff with a second now gone from it. In the DOT meta... With a trash rally now.

Also last tic removed.
Edited by Wuuffyy on August 6, 2019 1:28AM
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  • Seraphayel
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    Trash Rally that crits for 15-18k in PvP? Uhm...
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  • Lisutaris
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    Don't kill the healer role in PvE.
    I call:
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  • technohic
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    1 second less is a good thing. It's still buffed from live
  • MartiniDaniels
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    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Trash Rally that crits for 15-18k in PvP? Uhm...

    You mean on DK if used on last tick with major mending active in CP PVP and 30% crit chance build lol?
  • MartiniDaniels
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    Lisutaris wrote: »
    Don't kill the healer role in PvE.
    I call:
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    With that changes there will be nobody to heal soon.
  • puupaa
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    Yea, seems like Resolving Vigor will be ~18% weaker HoT than Resolving Vigor + Forward Momentum on live. Very bad.
  • Ariades_swe
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    lololololololololololol
  • TheHsN
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    revert Vigor Changes.... NO NERF TO VIGOR.... i got enough of NERFS i will cancel my sub againnnn
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  • Insco851
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    puupaa wrote: »
    Yea, seems like Resolving Vigor will be ~18% weaker HoT than Resolving Vigor + Forward Momentum on live. Very bad.

    Not including the additional chances to crit with the FM hot
  • darkblue5
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    TheHsN wrote: »
    revert Vigor Changes.... NO NERF TO VIGOR.... i got enough of NERFS i will cancel my sub againnnn

    v.5.1.4 Vigor is still stronger than Vigor on live. Are you sure you want to revert the changes?
  • Insco851
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    darkblue5 wrote: »
    TheHsN wrote: »
    revert Vigor Changes.... NO NERF TO VIGOR.... i got enough of NERFS i will cancel my sub againnnn

    v.5.1.4 Vigor is still stronger than Vigor on live. Are you sure you want to revert the changes?

    Very marginally from what I’ve seen.
  • technohic
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    technohic wrote: »
    1 second less is a good thing. It's still buffed from live

    Although what it looks like on PTS is different than what it sounded like on the notes. Its barely buffed in HPS, and cheaper. So yeah, its buffed; but overall stam took a hit losing momentum HOTs
  • Vapirko
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    technohic wrote: »
    technohic wrote: »
    1 second less is a good thing. It's still buffed from live

    Although what it looks like on PTS is different than what it sounded like on the notes. Its barely buffed in HPS, and cheaper. So yeah, its buffed; but overall stam took a hit losing momentum HOTs

    ZOS should really reconsider the changes to resolving before the patch goes live I think. But I did notice in duels that RV was feeling pretty damn strong on PTS. I’m ok with the 4 second duration but a fatter tick wouldn’t go amiss. What I hate is that if it goes live and proves to be under performing they won’t fix it for a long time if ever.
  • darkblue5
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    New Vigor and new Rally are probably better than on live (Rally burst healing better earlier). New Vigor and new Forward Momentum are probably marginally worse than live. Seems like a good direction to go in for stamina.
  • Vapirko
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    darkblue5 wrote: »
    New Vigor and new Rally are probably better than on live (Rally burst healing better earlier). New Vigor and new Forward Momentum are probably marginally worse than live. Seems like a good direction to go in for stamina.

    I worry about the new rally with performance the way it is. A bit of lag and there goes your window for the full burst heal.
  • Ulfgarde
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    darkblue5 wrote: »
    TheHsN wrote: »
    revert Vigor Changes.... NO NERF TO VIGOR.... i got enough of NERFS i will cancel my sub againnnn

    v.5.1.4 Vigor is still stronger than Vigor on live. Are you sure you want to revert the changes?

    On live my stamden's vigor ticks for 2389.

    On pts it ticks for 2467.

    Missing some gear though, but that's about a ~3% difference.

    Yeah I don't think so lmao
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  • technohic
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    darkblue5 wrote: »
    New Vigor and new Rally are probably better than on live (Rally burst healing better earlier). New Vigor and new Forward Momentum are probably marginally worse than live. Seems like a good direction to go in for stamina.

    Its hard to count on Rally. Its nice when it gets to max when you need it, but thats the trick. Its more likely to over heal or under heal. Losing the extra HPS doesn't help get to the full burst heal any better.
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    Ulfgarde wrote: »
    darkblue5 wrote: »
    TheHsN wrote: »
    revert Vigor Changes.... NO NERF TO VIGOR.... i got enough of NERFS i will cancel my sub againnnn

    v.5.1.4 Vigor is still stronger than Vigor on live. Are you sure you want to revert the changes?

    On live my stamden's vigor ticks for 2389.

    On pts it ticks for 2467.

    Missing some gear though, but that's about a ~3% difference.

    Yeah I don't think so lmao

    Are you SURE? Sounds like you’re missing something from live on PTS.
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  • J18696
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    Rally is far from trash but for people who are still using forward momentum they just nerfed a heal that didn't need it
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  • SassiestAssassin
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    If mag healers can’t heal, and stam users can’t heal, who’s helping the tank??
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  • Aznarb
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    Ofc they nerf it, it was way to strong, no need to be a genius to understand that..
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  • katorga
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    If mag healers can’t heal, and stam users can’t heal, who’s helping the tank??

    It is to make self healing necro tanks a thing.
  • Wuuffyy
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    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Trash Rally that crits for 15-18k in PvP? Uhm...

    Not anymore or after 30 seconds. Do the math.
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  • SassiestAssassin
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    katorga wrote: »
    If mag healers can’t heal, and stam users can’t heal, who’s helping the tank??

    It is to make self healing necro tanks a thing.

    Don’t say it too loud, or the devs will nerf ‘em
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  • Ulfgarde
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    Iskiab wrote: »
    Ulfgarde wrote: »
    darkblue5 wrote: »
    TheHsN wrote: »
    revert Vigor Changes.... NO NERF TO VIGOR.... i got enough of NERFS i will cancel my sub againnnn

    v.5.1.4 Vigor is still stronger than Vigor on live. Are you sure you want to revert the changes?

    On live my stamden's vigor ticks for 2389.

    On pts it ticks for 2467.

    Missing some gear though, but that's about a ~3% difference.

    Yeah I don't think so lmao

    Are you SURE? Sounds like you’re missing something from live on PTS.

    I literally logged both on my live and PTS char fresh from the move (EU). They have the same gear and the same passives.

    Yes the new vigor is that bad.
    Edited by Ulfgarde on August 6, 2019 3:00AM
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  • TheYKcid
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    Iskiab wrote: »
    Ulfgarde wrote: »
    darkblue5 wrote: »
    TheHsN wrote: »
    revert Vigor Changes.... NO NERF TO VIGOR.... i got enough of NERFS i will cancel my sub againnnn

    v.5.1.4 Vigor is still stronger than Vigor on live. Are you sure you want to revert the changes?

    On live my stamden's vigor ticks for 2389.

    On pts it ticks for 2467.

    Missing some gear though, but that's about a ~3% difference.

    Yeah I don't think so lmao

    Are you SURE? Sounds like you’re missing something from live on PTS.

    He is not wrong.

    On live, the Resolving morph provides a 33.5% increase to the base heal as a morph effect.

    On the PTS iteration 1, Resolving lost this bonus, which partially eroded the 85% buff the base skill received (resulting in a net healing gain of only 38.6% in actuality.

    In light of the 5.14 nerf, it now heals about as much per tick as live.

    Except it loses 1 tick.

    And all DoTs have been buffed to kingdom come.

    And all stam lost additional healing from the removal of Momentum's HoT.

    Doesn't take a genius to see how poorly balanced the situation is right now. And on the final PTS iteration, so expect to be stuck with this sh*t pile for 3 months.
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  • MaxJrFTW
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    I guess i won't be able to main stam next patch. No way a 13k vigor can compete with rapid regen. It is 18k over 5 seconds, with a heavy attack and brp resto it does 30k over 5 seconds. How is that even balanced? And how did vigor get nerfed but rapid regen didn't?
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  • Wuuffyy
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    MaxJrFTW wrote: »
    I guess i won't be able to main stam next patch. No way a 13k vigor can compete with rapid regen. It is 18k over 5 seconds, with a heavy attack and brp resto it does 30k over 5 seconds. How is that even balanced? And how did vigor get nerfed but rapid regen didn't?

    Lol exactly. Im just done. **** it
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  • Wuuffyy
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    I just want the trash live vigor now. least it is 5 ticks. Guess they can trash it and keep rapid regen OP as hell. IdC
    Wuuffyy,
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  • Anyron
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    MaxJrFTW wrote: »
    I guess i won't be able to main stam next patch. No way a 13k vigor can compete with rapid regen. It is 18k over 5 seconds, with a heavy attack and brp resto it does 30k over 5 seconds. How is that even balanced? And how did vigor get nerfed but rapid regen didn't?

    Rapid regen is **** skill because you cannot rely on it... It can be cast on player thats next to you and you die when you need heals or you need to cast it twice.. Thats a lot of magicka in noCp

    Heavy attack for healing? Come on nobody isnt going to use that atleast in pvp.. Too slow and enemy can dodge it
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