Cast time on Dawnbreaker / Berserker Strike

mandricus · August 2019

Is it as awful as it looks on paper?
Didn't have the option to test it on the PTS.

LiquidPony · August 2019

The cast times are pretty silly if you are used to canceling the animations.

In particular, lots of people swap-cancel Incap/Soul Harvest, which isn't possible now, and feels terribly clunky.

JobooAGS · August 2019

In cyrodiil lag, idt I'll notice the difference. in bgs and other less laggy conditions, there will be a noticeable difference

Rikumaru · August 2019

Yup it's as bad as it looks.

On the upside you can fake using a dawnbreaker (the animation plays but you cancel it so it doesn't consume ultimate). Should be funny to watch people panic like crazy on live.

Nerftheforums · August 2019

If you are really bad at the game/new, you'll love it. You will finally start understanding how you die in pvp.

If you have more than 10 hours worth of pvp experience, you'll hate it soooooo much

Delsskia · August 2019

To anyone who's ever played in Cyr, Ultis already have a cast time. Fix the friggin lag.

Trian94 · August 2019

They are not gonna revert it 99.99% and it will be awful.

kalunte · August 2019

well, it is ugly but ppl will deal with it, since you cant animcut ult you'll have to anim-cut "the skill after the ult" in order to kill ppl.

if you were no pro at barswaping/bashing/rolldodging in the very ms you spamed your ult, well, you wont feel it much.

ppl around might have a better look on what's happening..

Gilvoth · August 2019

i tested it and i love it
works perfect and better than what we had previously.

J2JMC · August 2019

Haven't tested it yet, so I can't comment on the how it feels, but I don't mind it as a balancing tool. In a game without static cooldowns, cast times and animations are tools that can be used to gate the power of strong abilities. I can complain about ZOS's decision making all day, but I'm not going to fault them for taking the steps to ensure the balancing tools they use to gate strong abilities can't be bypassed.

That being said, I will fault them for waiting 5 years to finally enforce something like this. If they didn't want the animations for instant damage ults to be canceled (which is a reasonable stance), they should have addressed this awhile ago. It's not surprising that players are frustrated when they're basically being told they can't do something that has been supported for the game's lifespan.

Glory · August 2019

It feels different from my experience. I think good players will adjust, and others will complain about how they can't.

I was able to reliably land these cast time ultimates on players. It's not as convenient as instant cast but it's not as ridiculous as some are saying.

xylena_lazarow · August 2019

Personally, it felt noticeably worse on Dawnbreaker than Onslaught.

Stronger players will adapt, but newer or weaker players won't be landing their Ultimates very often.

ScruffyWhiskers · August 2019

Sheesh, sure all you good players will have no problem. I'm old, lazy, not very well coordinated, have chronic eyestrain, easily discouraged and have rural dsl from Frontier.

Kadoin · August 2019

Welcome to the world of all the mag ultimates, including the "instant" ones.

Glory · August 2019

Don't newer players generally not animation cancel their abilities?

This change is mostly going to affect those individuals using animation canceling (and those affected more detrimentally by latency than others).

J2JMC · August 2019

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

Personally, it felt noticeably worse on Dawnbreaker than Onslaught.

Stronger players will adapt, but newer or weaker players won't be landing their Ultimates very often.

Newer players weren't animation canceling any skills anyway so their gameplay experience is most likely unchanged.