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Arena weapons
Epicasballs
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It has been said before but I'll say it again.... bring back 1 and 2 set bonuses for arena weapons. You took them away only to add brp weapons with additional bonuses in a later update. There is no reason to maintain this inconsistency any longer. Remove the brp weapons additional bonuses or restore order arena weapons bonsuses.
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LeHarrt91✭✭✭✭✭
✭While yes they did add the additional bonus in they also added Imperfect versions. The only way i can see them adding the bonus back to Masters and VMA is if they add weapons to the normal modes.
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Girl_Number8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I wouldn't ask for Zos to remove anything. Just look at their lazy a$$ fix with vMA weapons and vDSA weapons. Zos is great at making things useless, like the game's performance.
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Nordic__Knights wrote: »Not true we don't have to ask for more we just simply have to ask for what we had
Yes, very much so or at least a buff in another way with the current direction they are going....
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WrathOfInnos✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nordic__Knights wrote: »
The requested weapons never existed. Back when they had a 1pc bonus, the unique effect was considered an enchant (not a set bonus), so an additional enchant could not be used without losing the effect. The change that removed the 1pc also allowed us to use something like Infused Berserker (452 weapon and spell damage with 100% uptime), which was definitely a buff.
That being said, I am fully in favor of adding back a 1pc bonus to all of these, it would make front bar arena weapons viable. They need to be balanced with Monster sets or the 4+5 bonuses on a standard set to be competitive. Just make the current Master and Maelstrom weapons drop from normal, and add new perfect ones from vet that add a 1pc. Also add a 1pc bonus to perfect asylum weapons, and make the imperfect versions share the same strength 2pc bonus as the perfect (just like Blackrose weapons).0 -
Girl_Number8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭WrathOfInnos wrote: »Nordic__Knights wrote: »
The requested weapons never existed. Back when they had a 1pc bonus, the unique effect was considered an enchant (not a set bonus), so an additional enchant could not be used without losing the effect. The change that removed the 1pc also allowed us to use something like Infused Berserker (452 weapon and spell damage with 100% uptime), which was definitely a buff.
That being said, I am fully in favor of adding back a 1pc bonus to all of these, it would make front bar arena weapons viable. They need to be balanced with Monster sets or the 4+5 bonuses on a standard set to be competitive. Just make the current Master and Maelstrom weapons drop from normal, and add new perfect ones from vet that add a 1pc. Also add a 1pc bonus to perfect asylum weapons, and make the imperfect versions share the same strength 2pc bonus as the perfect (just like Blackrose weapons).
They should remove all normal weapons and just have them drop on Vet....0 -
WrathOfInnos✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Girl_Number8 wrote: »WrathOfInnos wrote: »Nordic__Knights wrote: »
The requested weapons never existed. Back when they had a 1pc bonus, the unique effect was considered an enchant (not a set bonus), so an additional enchant could not be used without losing the effect. The change that removed the 1pc also allowed us to use something like Infused Berserker (452 weapon and spell damage with 100% uptime), which was definitely a buff.
That being said, I am fully in favor of adding back a 1pc bonus to all of these, it would make front bar arena weapons viable. They need to be balanced with Monster sets or the 4+5 bonuses on a standard set to be competitive. Just make the current Master and Maelstrom weapons drop from normal, and add new perfect ones from vet that add a 1pc. Also add a 1pc bonus to perfect asylum weapons, and make the imperfect versions share the same strength 2pc bonus as the perfect (just like Blackrose weapons).
They should remove all normal weapons and just have them drop on Vet....
Why keep the newer and less-skilled players so far behind? One extra set bonus is plenty of incentive for end game players to want the perfect versions and do the content on vet.4 -
Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭"WrathOfInnos wrote: »Just make the current Master and Maelstrom weapons drop from normal, and add new perfect ones from vet that add a 1pc. Also add a 1pc bonus to perfect asylum weapons, and make the imperfect versions share the same strength 2pc bonus as the perfect (just like Blackrose weapons).
Why not turn the current ones into perfected? I mean it’s not like they’re not earned in vet and I have to admit I’d hate running maelstrom and dsa again a million times.<Noricum>
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Awhile back someone attributed a comment to a class rep that Zos was considering Perfect weapons for the two older arenas but that they would create a new difficulty level for those weapons and that will take time.
Regardless, it is a great idea to create a perfect weapon of the vMA and Masters that bring back a base stat like they use to have. The best suggestion I have heard (outside of a new difficulty level) is maybe a no sigil run to get the perfected weapon. iirc that came from a forum user named Code.1 -
Celestro✭✭✭I thought about this same proposal after returning to ESO after a hiatus and seeing the new BRP dungeon dropping ability altering weapons on Normal, while the Vet version dropped Perfect weapons with stat bonuses like old vMA weapons. I understand changing things over a course of time with how vMA operated to the AS trial introducing Imperfect and Perfect gear to the current BRP situation but I imagine updating older sets to be consistent to said newer standards makes more sense than anything.
Or at least grant vMA, vDSA and vAS weapons stat bonuses if also allowing the normal versions of those dungeons to drop weapons is too much work. Something.Edited by Celestro on August 5, 2019 4:35PM0 -
WrathOfInnos✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭"WrathOfInnos wrote: »Just make the current Master and Maelstrom weapons drop from normal, and add new perfect ones from vet that add a 1pc. Also add a 1pc bonus to perfect asylum weapons, and make the imperfect versions share the same strength 2pc bonus as the perfect (just like Blackrose weapons).
Why not turn the current ones into perfected? I mean it’s not like they’re not earned in vet and I have to admit I’d hate running maelstrom and dsa again a million times.
I wouldn’t complain about that, but I think it’s more likely that we’ll have to earn them again if we want the boost. If the devs spend the time to add a new version it will likely be used as an incentive to revisit old content, which I personally wouldn’t mind. I know some don’t like the idea of going back into Maelstrom, but it’s not like they would be getting a nerf, their weapons would stay exactly as they are now. The grind wouldn’t be bad now that we have the transmutation system.0 -
Nordic__Knights✭✭✭✭✭
✭See the thing is at first you want something back that you once had but why at the same time you want them to add something that's never been there two different issues all-in-one I understand they relate to each other but did you ever take in consideration that maybe one request is blocking the other from happening0 -
luen79rwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭This huge mess is what ZOS has to standarize and audit first. But all these inconsistencies have remained untouched neverthelessPC/DC/NAserver
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Dracane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Arena weapons should have 1 piece bonuses, no matter what. If Zenimax feels like they are too easy to aquire, which I 100% disagree with, then perhaps it is time to bring back the occasional drop chance rather than a guaranteed drop chance for every run. Reworking the old arenas to have an additional hard mode would perhaps be too much to ask.
Even then, this pve content is still not lightly done and it is a big shame, that these weapons are the only ones with merely 1 bonus and in many cases, this bonus is faaaar inferior to 1) A second 5 set piece or 2) a monster set. So please...... restore them, they truly deserve it.
A poor example: Perfected Asylum Force Pulse is still inferior to elemental weapons. Directly, as well as due to the fact that you loose either a 2nd set or a monster set. And adding 1 mundane set bonus to this staff would not even change anything, it would have to be more than that. But at least you would feel less like a moron for using this staff, which really is not achieveable by everyone.Edited by Dracane on August 5, 2019 5:57PMAuri-El is my lord,
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Jeezye✭✭✭✭✭Arena weapons should have 1 piece bonuses, no matter what. If Zenimax feels like they are too easy to aquire, which I 100% disagree with, then perhaps it is time to bring back the occasional drop chance rather than a guaranteed drop chance for every run. Reworking the old arenas to have an additional hard mode would perhaps be too much to ask.
Even then, this pve content is still not lightly done and it is a big shame, that these weapons are the only ones with merely 1 bonus and in many cases, this bonus is faaaar inferior to 1) A second 5 set piece or 2) a monster set. So please...... restore them, they truly deserve it.
A poor example: Perfected Asylum Force Pulse is still inferior to elemental weapons. Directly, as well as due to the fact that you loose either a 2nd set or a monster set. And adding 1 mundane set bonus to this staff would not even change anything, it would have to be more than that. But at least you would feel less like a moron for using this staff, which really is not achieveable by everyone.
I mean I still have 1k+ CP friends that didn't clear maelstrom yet because they dont have the patience lol. Image being a newbie and attempting it, even with the present CPs. It's still a pain and should be rewarding, even if us veterans find it easy to clear by now. Same with DSA.0 -
Dracane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Arena weapons should have 1 piece bonuses, no matter what. If Zenimax feels like they are too easy to aquire, which I 100% disagree with, then perhaps it is time to bring back the occasional drop chance rather than a guaranteed drop chance for every run. Reworking the old arenas to have an additional hard mode would perhaps be too much to ask.
Even then, this pve content is still not lightly done and it is a big shame, that these weapons are the only ones with merely 1 bonus and in many cases, this bonus is faaaar inferior to 1) A second 5 set piece or 2) a monster set. So please...... restore them, they truly deserve it.
A poor example: Perfected Asylum Force Pulse is still inferior to elemental weapons. Directly, as well as due to the fact that you loose either a 2nd set or a monster set. And adding 1 mundane set bonus to this staff would not even change anything, it would have to be more than that. But at least you would feel less like a moron for using this staff, which really is not achieveable by everyone.
I mean I still have 1k+ CP friends that didn't clear maelstrom yet because they dont have the patience lol. Image being a newbie and attempting it, even with the present CPs. It's still a pain and should be rewarding, even if us veterans find it easy to clear by now. Same with DSA.
This is very true. It is easy for people like us, but not so much for everyone else. Considering it can take 50 runs for you to get the weapon you want and that is if you have the capacity to perform a transmutation.
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Trinimac is my shield,
Magnus is my mind.
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Nordic__Knights✭✭✭✭✭
✭Arena weapons should have 1 piece bonuses, no matter what. If Zenimax feels like they are too easy to aquire, which I 100% disagree with, then perhaps it is time to bring back the occasional drop chance rather than a guaranteed drop chance for every run. Reworking the old arenas to have an additional hard mode would perhaps be too much to ask.
Even then, this pve content is still not lightly done and it is a big shame, that these weapons are the only ones with merely 1 bonus and in many cases, this bonus is faaaar inferior to 1) A second 5 set piece or 2) a monster set. So please...... restore them, they truly deserve it.
A poor example: Perfected Asylum Force Pulse is still inferior to elemental weapons. Directly, as well as due to the fact that you loose either a 2nd set or a monster set. And adding 1 mundane set bonus to this staff would not even change anything, it would have to be more than that. But at least you would feel less like a moron for using this staff, which really is not achieveable by everyone.
I mean I still have 1k+ CP friends that didn't clear maelstrom yet because they dont have the patience lol. Image being a newbie and attempting it, even with the present CPs. It's still a pain and should be rewarding, even if us veterans find it easy to clear by now. Same with DSA.
I start taking my guild threw VDSA and vet trials at 160 maxgear rate Max everything you can do it's my only rule you just have to have the willingness to practice your rotations and listen when being told it's not hard by no means and anybody at 810 or above saying that it is sound silly
Solo vmsa aint hard just an lag festival lots dont care to fight throughout an already missed mechanic because you never see me it come up and I applaud you guys that have and I applaud you guys that make your score runs I mean good job guys good way to have good internet whatever you're running good job but I tell you on console we have no control and I say give that whatever you say is been token away from the weapons that was there at one time I say damn right give it back but making new weapons for different levels of other places to justify the means of giving that one place that had something that existed before I don't see that as being correct and I don't see it as being the way to ask for something back by demanding something else to0 -
Epicasballs✭✭✭✭All the way back in murkmire I said they should standardize arena drops and have imperfect and perfected drops. Having arena weapons drop on normal raises the floor for the entire community of players who can't beat vet content and may even encourage players to push further into more difficult content with the confidence provided by having better gear. MMOs thrive on progression. Feeling like you're moving forward.
The one caveat would be AS weapons. Make the modifying bonus match the current perfected versions for normal drops and have the new perfected versions have an additional stat bonus. The difference between the perfected destro AS and their normal version currently is leagues apart and should addresed.
Edited by Epicasballs on August 6, 2019 4:37AM1