It occurs to me that if ZOS wanted to implement a rare items credit sink, they could basically do the same as Guild Kiosk bidding.

• Have a selection of furnishings that rotate on a YEARLY basis. That is, they come only once a year. And if more items get added... then that rotation becomes even longer.
• And you have 1 week to BLIND BID. The top 3 bidders win one copy each. Everyone else waits till next year.

They'd have to be extraordinarily good at sussing out what people really, Really, REALLY want though. But I bet you there's a demographic with the gold that'd be interested in bragging rights like this.

Cyphers are rare, but not difficult to obtain. More stuff like that, less stuff like HM motifs and other crap that no one wants to farm.

Thorvik_Tyrson wrote: »

slicksteezin wrote: »

Logicbomb00 wrote: »

I think what the OP meant to say was:

"There are too many people with millions of gold that I would really like so please give me and my mates a way of taking all that gold for the least amount of effort"

Huh? Not the case at all. Might want to invest in a name change because there's not much logic in that logicbomb.

I have zero issue with players who have huge sums of gold. What I'm advocating for is *more* things in game to put that money towards.

This I can agree with. More items in game to spend in game gold on. IMO, they really don't make a big effort in ESO to remove in game gold with in game money sinks.

MattT1988 wrote: »

slicksteezin wrote: »

Androconium wrote: »

slicksteezin wrote: »

One of the things I've never been too fond of in ESO is the lack of super-rare, highly sought after items. There are many players that have more gold than they know what to do with as the accumulation rate far outweighs the spendature needed (between consumables, armor sets, temper materials, deco, etc).

For this reason, by implementing more exceedingly rare and difficult-to-obtain items I think the game economy would hugely benefit. Not only would it create new appeal and incentive for players to strive towards, it would also service as a new sort of credit sink.

What do you guys think?

ZOS are actively working on reducing the numbers of players "with more gold than they know what to do with".
There is no such thing as "the game economy". It's a construct in the minds of players.

The rarity is about making you play more and by consequence, subscribe more.
I'm a guy; and that's what I think.

Economies are always a construct in the minds of its consumers - that doesn't mean it isn't "real".

All I'm saying is there are alot of other MMOs that have implemented these kinds of things and there is various ways to do so. SWG for example (and I don't mean to draw a comparison between ESO and a heavy sandbox MMO like galaxies as I realize they are very different in their structure) had some awesome ways of incorporating these kinds of things. I.e the mayor election cycles, they would happen every few months at random and players would have to go to a designated city and cast their vote for one of the four candidates. If the candidate you supported won, you'd be rewarded with an RNG box of goods containing one of four items - one of the items being a stupidly rare painting.

Again I'm not saying that it would be realistic or sensible to try to steer the direction of ESO into a RNG based sandbox game. But that doesn't mean some of those features wouldn't serve as a benefit to the game.

One of the biggest issues with MMOs structured like ESO is that the playerbase will blast through the content, obviously some quicker than others, and thus the developers have to keep pumping out new stuff to keep people interested. Adding more elements of RNG (percentage based random generation) to loot drops would do nothing but help the game. Even if they did something as simple as implementing said items with exceedingly low drop chance in basis trials and dungeons you'd then see more incentive for players to run content they've already done a hundred times over and otherwise would not consider doing .

My friend you are going to be pissing off a lot of players if you add more RNG into the game. There’s already too much of it.

Not really. ESO relative to other MMOs has very little elements of RNG loot. More RNG = more end game incentives and longevity.

I'm sorry, bug I beg to differ here. IMO too much RNG isnt a good thing. If you look at Trove, your entire advancement in that game is based on RNG luck. It's like they couldn't come up with any real content, so they make it all based on RNG luck.

I don't agree with your logic that more RNG = More incentive. I think this is a false statement. It sounds like a marketing gimmick to me. Players want more actual content, not an artificial lengthening of that content by repetitive grind.

Some RNG is Ok, but I would not call it incentive. I think its a step in the wrong direction to make the game depend on RNG. It's more a measure of how long will players put up with this repetition BS before refusing to do it anymore.

Being a newer player to ESO, I still have not experienced a lot of the content. I think that improving the Dungeon finder so that it works in a reasonable amount of time will do much more to making people do dungeons than your loot incentives would. Right now I do not spend more than 30 Minutes on any one character during the week. So I don't even try to queue up for dungeons/pledges during the week. Adding incentives like your describing isn't going to change that fact.
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Adding more RNG elements to the loot system in the way I'm describing would have zero impact on a player's "advancement" in that context.

I'm not advocating for a complete overhaul of the current system as you're making it out to be. I'm saying *more* RNG would create new endgame incentives - character advancement in ESO is extremely easy by comparison to MMOs, far easier than it should be, even if you're a casual player. Between consumables, armor sets, temper mats, and deco there's really not much to put gold towards after a certain point if youre a player who is somewhere in between casual-hardcore.

You said yourself that you're a new player, so with all due respect i would take your input with a grain of salt as it sounds like you really haven't been around long enough to form a credible opinion on end game incentives.