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When selling crowns, which is more important to protect?
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rpa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Other opinion.What's more important than any of this is for the developers to set up a global gold-to-crown exchange that facilitates this and takes any risk of being ripped off out of the equation entirely. It would also be a step forward in making microtransactions in this game more ethical.
Of course fastest way to make microtransactions more ethical would be ditching gamble crates.
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KerinKor✭✭✭✭✭
✭Other opinion.
You provided 'other' so I'm free to write what my OTHER view is HERE and not in a PM to you, you're not that important: trading crowns should be a bannable offense.If you don’t like the idea of selling crowns and don’t otherwise have an opinion on the following subject, please feel free to message me your outrage, just don’t invade the thread.1 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Neither, it’s equal.ZOS should just sell tradeable crown tokens and be done with it.
Just make it so we can place the items for sale on the traders.
It is easy. They could make everything purchased from the crown store a token. The token can be sold. Once the token is consumed the item is bound forever.3 -
Saelent✭✭✭✭✭
You provided 'other' so I'm free to write what my OTHER view is HERE and not in a PM to you, you're not that important: trading crowns should be a bannable offense.If you don’t like the idea of selling crowns and don’t otherwise have an opinion on the following subject, please feel free to message me your outrage, just don’t invade the thread.
I gave an ‘other opinion’ option not to be inundated by ‘I don’t like it’ posts like yours but to have a reasonable discussion about the trade that already exists and so far can’t be stopped.
It is there for people who have an opinion I didn’t think to add. If I make something like this again in the future I’ll be sure to add ‘I don’t like it’ as an option.
As has been shown many times, your dislike won’t stop the trading of crowns and so is pointless to the thread which discusses the protection of currency.
I trade for those who want it, I don’t force it on anyone, hence why I don’t even use zone chat to advertise.
I am sorry that I insulted your own level of importance by making a simple request.1 -
Delpi✭✭✭✭✭
It would be wiser to just sell on the crown store "Tickets valid for X crowns" so you could send them on guild store for the players to buy whatever they want. Plain and easy.
"I used to be an adventurer like you. Then I took an arrow in the knee..."2 -
jircris11✭✭✭✭✭
✭Neither, it’s equal.For me both, as one is real money the other is hard work.IGN: Ki'rah
Khajiit/Vampire
DC/AD faction/NA server.
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max_only✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The real life money of the seller.Playing a video game is not hard work.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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""All gods' creatures (you lot) are equal when covered in A1 sauce"" -- Old Bosmeri Wisdom2 -
PizzaCat82✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The real life money of the seller.I've been burned by ZOS for not getting exactly the details of the trade in the chat before they ran off with my million gold.
1.Make sure its in the chat what you are sending
2. Make sure its in the chat what you are expecting
3. Make damn sure to get a response from them "Ok, sure, yes, alright, etc" before you send anything
4. Check their profile for other games, if its a new profile it will likely be deleted after the trade and after you send your items
5. Even if you have everything and record everything ZOS support is a nightmare and does not have their stuff together. Expect it to take weeks to get your stuff back even if you have the other party saying in chat that they scammed you.2 -
Starlock✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The real life money of the seller.What's more important than any of this is for the developers to set up a global gold-to-crown exchange that facilitates this and takes any risk of being ripped off out of the equation entirely. It would also be a step forward in making microtransactions in this game more ethical.
Of course fastest way to make microtransactions more ethical would be ditching gamble crates.
Sadly true, but probably not realistic. Gambling in some form or another is here to stay in our culture, and in the interest of fairness, it makes more sense to me for these gamble crates to simply be regulated like every other type of gambling instead of outlawed outright. Similarly, elimination of all microtransactions from video games isn't realistic either at this point, so the better route is to take steps to reduce how predatory it is.
The sad thing is, there are some pretty easy ways to do this that wouldn't require much work on the part of developers. For example, it would also be extremely easy to stop obscuring costs of transactions by adding the real money cash values next to the fake currency value. This would also be a good thing for anyone involved in gold-to-crown exchanges if a proper in-game exchange was set up like it should be.1 -
gepe87✭✭✭✭✭
✭Neither, it’s equal.Everyone loses from this. Only ZoS win. But its good to have that gold from selling.
Actually this is a clouded PTW (you use real money to have itens and trial sets).Gepe, Dunmer MagSorc Pact Grand Overlord | Gaepe, Bosmer MagSorc Dominion General
If you see edits on my replies: typos. English isn't my main language0 -
RogueShark✭✭✭✭✭
✭The real life money of the seller.I never buy crowns anymore with cash and exclusively buy for gold.
I have no issue going first if I trade with a stranger. It makes sense to me that the crown seller be more "protected"; they're spending irl money versus my gold. I would want and would expect to be granted the same courtesy if I were selling the crowns.
I wish they would implement a safe way to trade already, though.PC NA
Will heal DPS for memes.0 -
grannas211✭✭✭✭✭
✭The real life money of the seller.Dusk_Coven wrote: »Siohwenoeht wrote: »Gold is earned in-game, crowns are purchased with real money, even through ESO +, therefore the seller is the most vulnerable of losing real assets. No contest.
All depends on framing.
Gold is earned with TIME spent in the time.
Time is more important than money. So gold is more important than time.
But then you could say real life money is earned with time too.
So they are both equal.
No one likes to be ripped off. That's the real issue.
Yep. Totally gonna pay my mortgage with Time next month. I know this is a game and lots of you are young but comparing real life money to in game currency is just ***.3 -
ZonasArch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Everyone loses from this. Only ZoS win. But its good to have that gold from selling.
Actually this is a clouded PTW (you use real money to have itens and trial sets).
What items and trial sets? I mean... Lots of stuff are DLC locked, but that was always true even before crown trading.0 -
Partomax✭✭✭Other opinion.If trading crowns is allowed and supported by the devs then they should provide protection over those partaking in the trade. Make sure you screenshot every step of the transaction and in case you're scammed send it to the support and your items should be returned and the scammer banned. In this case it doesn't matter which one comes first as the trade will always be safe.
If trading crowns is not allowed then either you shouldn't be doing it at all or if you do is at your own risk, including the risk of getting punished by the devs if they chose to so so.
Personally I don't care if people are trading crowns and I don't see why anyone would be against it. Not everyone can afford to buy crowns and buying them with gold allows them to work hard for the nice stuff they might want which in my opinion makes them as worthy of these items as those who paid for them, if not more. I don't like the idea of selling or buying crowns because I don't feel comfortable doing it but I see nothing wrong with taking the risk, however, there wouldn't be any risk if what I said at the beginning was enforced effectively.PC/EU - This is a signature0 -
dcam86b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭The real life money of the seller.I sell crowns regularly but I am part of a guild network that secures all purchases. Never trust a random in a zone chat.1