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Add fatigue to cloak?

hesobad
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There is currently a fatigue mechanic attached to streak and roll dodge, why not add fatigue to cloak as it is an extremely powerful offensive and defensive ability that makes the NB completely untargetable! People have been complaining about this ability for a very long time. I think putting the ramping increase in cost per cast on Cloak is not only necessary, but very overdue. Please try to be un biased in your choice here, we all have a NB and know how to stack enough magic and recovery to abuse the heck out of this ability at high levels
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Add fatigue to cloak? 217 votes

Yes, add fatigue to cloak
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No, do not add fatigue
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  • Heimpai
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    No, do not add fatigue
    Very few nb‘s are a problem, let’s not kill the class

  • Vlad9425
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    No, do not add fatigue
    Add a 3rd option to this poll "leave cloak alone since it already has many counters and L2P"
  • mmtaniac
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    Yes, add fatigue to cloak
    sry miss click wrong poll
  • Starlock
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    No, do not add fatigue
    Seperate PvP and PvE. Then, nerf whatever the flark you want for PvP.
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    No, do not add fatigue
    What is with all those cloak & detection threads on forums recently ? NB is still a problem in PvP ?! LOL....
  • SidraWillowsky
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    No, do not add fatigue
    sigh.
  • idk
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    No, do not add fatigue
    Vlad9425 wrote: »
    Add a 3rd option to this poll "leave cloak alone since it already has many counters and L2P"

    Had to give this an agree because the cloaks work great. Like everything else you have to figure out how to use them well which starts off with actually using them.
  • InvictusApollo
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    No, do not add fatigue
    Please just try, at least once in your life to actually learn how to play a game instead of calling for nerfs that will make many people sad just because you reject the idea of attaining new skills.
  • NBrookus
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    No, do not add fatigue
    We can talk about the fact dots don't tick while someone is in cloak being overtuned or needing adjustment maybe, but unless you want to see cooldowns or escalating costs on every skill that might be used for mitigation, there's no justification for nerfing a NB's fundamental disengage skill.

    I don't think streak should have fatigue either... altho that one is slightly more justified since it aoe cc's.
  • UntilValhalla13
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    No, do not add fatigue
    If only there were abilities or potions in the game to detect them.

    Oh, wait...

    If they're that big of a deal for people, they can use one of the many counters already available.
  • xAcrania
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    No skill should get that kind of nerf
  • charley222
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    Yes, add fatigue to cloak
    hesobad wrote: »
    There is currently a fatigue mechanic attached to streak and roll dodge, why not add fatigue to cloak as it is an extremely powerful offensive and defensive ability that makes the NB completely untargetable! People have been complaining about this ability for a very long time. I think putting the ramping increase in cost per cast on Cloak is not only necessary, but very overdue. Please try to be un biased in your choice here, we all have a NB and know how to stack enough magic and recovery to abuse the heck out of this ability at high levels
    what do you expect in your poll , sure all nb will not be agree , every one know the issue with this spamming skill , nb are able to have 2 or 3 dot on them and after be in permanent cloak this just make any sense

    the wall of the covenant
  • Moonsorrow
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    No, do not add fatigue
    You know, Stamblade could use Cloak just fine even with fatigue, Roll - Cloak - Roll - Cloak.. but, Magblade cannot do that efficiently in a competitive pvp atmosphere. And magblade already is one of the least played specs because it already is hard enough for most to even try to compete on the current pvp situation.

    People should try playing Magblade for a month or two in competitive PVP and then after that come back asking for this. Yeah one can build sort of gimmick build with dark cloak, but can it compete with other more universal setups in most situations? Nope. All who play pvp at the competitive level know this. Magblades in group play for pvp are pretty much healers anymore and bombers.

    But yeah, lets just nerf them even more. /eyeroll

    Seriously people should go play magblade for sometime. People always go back to their usual class because its so far from "op" and they realize you really need all the remaining things nb got left, magblade playing is like ninjaing between bars to get burst combo right, defensively its like even 1 second lag and game over lol. Compare it to the tanky brawler classes that can turtle damage and still dish it out. Yeah can make cheesy setups, but against good players those not work because other classes/specs can make cheesy setups that are more well-rounded.

    Magblade pretty much only has Cloaking and moving fast while Cloaked/sneaking.. and if it was nerfed, what would it have? BRP resto using healer or a troll hp recovery tank. Good times./s

    Meh, i think just wasting time on explaining all this again.. so forget about it.

  • Taleof2Cities
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    No, do not add fatigue
    These two (2) characters phoned in a “NAY”:

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    Edited by Taleof2Cities on August 4, 2019 9:25AM
  • Emma_Overload
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    Yes, add fatigue to cloak
    Permacloak has got to go... it's just so annoying and enables a cowardly play style.

    If they won't nerf the cost like Streak, than they need to make the so-called "counters" work better. Radiant Magelight needs a 28 meter radius for one thing. Detect potions need to go back to 100% uptime, too.

    They also need to fix it so that a tab-targeted nightblade who Cloaks REMAINS tab-targeted when he exits Cloak. If he aggro'd any mobs, the mobs need to become aggro'd AGAIN when he comes out of Cloak.

    Edited by Emma_Overload on August 4, 2019 9:42AM
    #CAREBEARMASTERRACE
  • Sun7dance
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    No, do not add fatigue
    Permacloak has got to go... it's just so annoying and enables a cowardly play style.

    If they won't nerf the cost like Streak, than they need to make the so-called "counters" work better. Radiant Magelight needs a 28 meter radius for one thing. Detect potions need to go back to 100% uptime, too.

    They also need to fix it so that a tab-targeted nightblade who Cloaks REMAINS tab-targeted when he exits Cloak. If he aggro'd any mobs, the mobs need to become aggro'd AGAIN when he comes out of Cloak.

    Cowardly play style?
    Sorry that i try staying alive with 17k resistances and without shields and no speedbuff in cloak!
    Btw you know that dots could show you the position of any Nb in cloak? Yes, they make no damage, but you always get these dodge messages!

    Last but not least you think that permablocking isn't cowardly play style?

    God damn, i can't believe this b.ul.lsh.it here!



    Edited by Sun7dance on August 4, 2019 10:25AM
    PS5|EU
  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    Yes, add fatigue to cloak
    Nerf the wuss button!
  • zvavi
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    I mean, if you do fatigue it then reduce the cost first
  • Lord_Eomer
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    No, do not add fatigue
    What else you want?

    ZOS Please Delete Nightblade, even every patch hitting NB harder
  • Deathlord92
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    Vlad9425 wrote: »
    Add a 3rd option to this poll "leave cloak alone since it already has many counters and L2P"
    This I agree with.
  • Deathlord92
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    I can’t even believe players are still crying about cloak.
  • Vapirko
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    No, do not add fatigue
    At one point this would have been applicable but now nightblades are pretty average in PvP. So no, i dont think thats necessary.
  • Starlock
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    No, do not add fatigue
    Permacloak has got to go... it's just so annoying and enables a cowardly play style.

    Yeah, because gods forbid that we want our nightblade thieves to actually be the best at theivery, right? It’s soooo annoying that nightblades make the best thieves because of cloak..

    *rolls eyes*

    Like I said. Seperate PvP and PvE. Until that happens, leave it the hell alone.
  • Royalthought
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    No, do not add fatigue
    Cloak isnt comparable to Streak or dodgeroll.

    Cloak is comparable to shield.

    Shield has no fatigue. Neither should cloak.
  • KingExecration
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    If anything nbs need some buffs. Haven’t been bothered by any until you get the incap silence outnumbered at a bad time. Could just be everyone is still bashing each other on console tho.
  • xaraan
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    No, do not add fatigue
    Cloak already has several counters. This type of change isn't needed.
    -- @xaraan --
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  • Vig0rz
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    Yes, add fatigue to cloak
    Cloak is either way too strong or way too weak. If you run into someone with detect pots or a *** load of aoe's it almost instantly becomes useless. The problem with nb is being able to roll three times for almost no stam then cast cloak to reset that cooldown. They just rinse and repeat this to the point where you can never hit them. Cloak isnt the problem, the problem is dodge roll and cloak together.

    #StamProxy2019
  • Heimpai
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    No, do not add fatigue
    Permacloak has got to go... it's just so annoying and enables a cowardly play style.

    If they won't nerf the cost like Streak, than they need to make the so-called "counters" work better. Radiant Magelight needs a 28 meter radius for one thing. Detect potions need to go back to 100% uptime, too.

    They also need to fix it so that a tab-targeted nightblade who Cloaks REMAINS tab-targeted when he exits Cloak. If he aggro'd any mobs, the mobs need to become aggro'd AGAIN when he comes out of Cloak.
    Soo basically an infinite shield spamming petsorc? Not surprised you want to kill other classes defensive abilities
  • Gilvoth
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    No, do not add fatigue
    Vig0rz wrote: »
    Cloak is either way too strong or way too weak. If you run into someone with detect pots or a *** load of aoe's it almost instantly becomes useless. The problem with nb is being able to roll three times for almost no stam then cast cloak to reset that cooldown. They just rinse and repeat this to the point where you can never hit them. Cloak isnt the problem, the problem is dodge roll and cloak together.

    #StamProxy2019

    everything in that comment is simply false information.
    cloak is working properly now the same as it has since beta 6 Years ago.
    if anything it needs helped and buffed so it isnt Broken so easily
    and also just remove the ability do higher damage to others when leaving cloak.
    its offensive abilities should be removed.
    other then that its working just as it should and has been for the past 6 Years.
  • Vig0rz
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    Yes, add fatigue to cloak
    Gilvoth wrote: »
    Vig0rz wrote: »
    Cloak is either way too strong or way too weak. If you run into someone with detect pots or a *** load of aoe's it almost instantly becomes useless. The problem with nb is being able to roll three times for almost no stam then cast cloak to reset that cooldown. They just rinse and repeat this to the point where you can never hit them. Cloak isnt the problem, the problem is dodge roll and cloak together.

    #StamProxy2019

    everything in that comment is simply false information.
    cloak is working properly now the same as it has since beta 6 Years ago.
    if anything it needs helped and buffed so it isnt Broken so easily
    and also just remove the ability do higher damage to others when leaving cloak.
    its offensive abilities should be removed.
    other then that its working just as it should and has been for the past 6 Years.

    So not being able to cloak against detect pots and a zerg spamming aoe's is false? Cloak being polarizing is false? People spamming cloak and roll is false? Have you ever been in pvp? I agree that cloak should have no offensive capabilities and if they do give it defensive abilities (minor protection or minor vitality etc.) then it needs to have fatigue that is tied to roll dodge. I think the fatigue change should be added once cloak is in a better spot rather than just being nerfed right away making nb useless. Cloak also hasn't been the same the past six years with no heals in cloak, patches where it didn't work, or when cloak got canceled by enemy light attacks.
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