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So I finally played a mageblade yesterday
teladoy
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I had a mageblade as Banker for years because I was unsuccessful in pvp and yesterday I came across an idea with a set I had already with another character, and wow I just had an incredible good time in PvP.
Not too much damage, but incredible versatile and damn powerful in 1 vs 1 or more.
The only way to kill me was shutting me down and kill me before I could get back in combat, otherwise forget it.
Yesterday in bgs I was able to fight one after another and killing them. The most fun I had it when two guys took it personally and they were resurrecting to come to kill over and over again to die in my hands.
I will keep playing and try to optimize it more. But I'm happy I finally was able to find some use for it. Also is very fun to play with the set of skills NB have, the teleport, the fear the vanishing and etc. Is very different from any other class.
Not too much damage, but incredible versatile and damn powerful in 1 vs 1 or more.
The only way to kill me was shutting me down and kill me before I could get back in combat, otherwise forget it.
Yesterday in bgs I was able to fight one after another and killing them. The most fun I had it when two guys took it personally and they were resurrecting to come to kill over and over again to die in my hands.
I will keep playing and try to optimize it more. But I'm happy I finally was able to find some use for it. Also is very fun to play with the set of skills NB have, the teleport, the fear the vanishing and etc. Is very different from any other class.
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Huyen✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yeah, pvp is so much fun when you cant keep up because a disability...Huyen Shadowpaw, dedicated nightblade tank - PS4 (Retired)
Huyen Swiftpaw, nightblade dps - PC EU (Retired)
Huyen Lightpaw, templar healer - PC EU (Retired)
Huyen Swiftpaw, necromancer dps - PC EU (Retired)
Huyen Swiftpaw, dragonknight (no defined role yet)
"Failure is only the opportunity to begin again. Only this time, more wisely" - Uncle Iroh3 -
BoraxFlux✭✭✭✭✭Nice, can imagine the ruse, dusted off my dedicated crafter (stamblade) not too long ago and slowly improving her PvE damage. I rarely get to do dungeons (PvP mostly), would love to take her out to one and see how she fares.
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Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yea, magblade’s are a great class. Just takes more experience in the game to do well I think, but when you get things down like light attack weaving and the hang of pvp in the game it’s fun.
It’s getting a nerf this upcoming patch, but it’ll still keep its versatility.Edited by Iskiab on August 3, 2019 11:17AMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten0 -
Nairinhe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Is magblade easier to play than stamblade in terms of survivability and rotation complexity?0 -
CAB_LifeClass RepresentativeIs magblade easier to play than stamblade in terms of survivability and rotation complexity?
You have an instant disengage/ reset in PVP/ PVE and you can easily weave nasty combos into a lightning staff heavy attack. Stamblade certainly requires more finesse, but both have a high skill ceiling for dedicated players.
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Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Is magblade easier to play than stamblade in terms of survivability and rotation complexity?
You have an instant disengage/ reset in PVP/ PVE and you can easily weave nasty combos into a lightning staff heavy attack. Stamblade certainly requires more finesse, but both have a high skill ceiling for dedicated players.
I think magblade’s easier, but I started with magblade so I’m not sure and it might just be I’m used to it.
I tried stamblade in no-CP and hated it, you can’t dodge roll enough without the CPs to reduce the cost and all Nightblade utility costs magicka. As a stamblade you have to be conservative with magicka, as a magblade you can spam for days.
I also found magblade better self healing.
If you like BGs I’d go magblade, Stamblades just don’t do well in my experience.Edited by Iskiab on August 3, 2019 3:24PMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten1 -
teladoy✭✭✭✭✭Mageblades and stamblades are different things and to this you have to add the different Builds you have.
As I created my mageblade long time ago there was no bgs and I wanted to make a magetank which in Cirodill was terrible.
Yesterday I decide to put an defensive + sustain set which makes him not an assassin but a very annoying character very hard to kill that can also output a very considered amount of damage enough to kill but not as terrible fast.
I'm happy, is the kind of things I see it works for me. I hate when I play bgs and I do it terrible and my builds doesn't work. For me a good build is not that one that makes a lot a lot of damage but those which I can accomplish the objectives, do my part, be useful, independent, dangerous and defend myself.3 -
Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Mageblades and stamblades are different things and to this you have to add the different Builds you have.
As I created my mageblade long time ago there was no bgs and I wanted to make a magetank which in Cirodill was terrible.
Yesterday I decide to put an defensive + sustain set which makes him not an assassin but a very annoying character very hard to kill that can also output a very considered amount of damage enough to kill but not as terrible fast.
I'm happy, is the kind of things I see it works for me. I hate when I play bgs and I do it terrible and my builds doesn't work. For me a good build is not that one that makes a lot a lot of damage but those which I can accomplish the objectives, do my part, be useful, independent, dangerous and defend myself.
Yea, this is how it plays out. All the pvp advice from people at one point was 1 defensive, 1 sustain and 1 damage/healing set. Then at some point lack of healers let people go full offense and try and blow people up in seconds.
Now there are more healers in BGs, and the glass canon builds don’t work with a healer around, so the pendulum is swinging back to how it should be - pvp being skill based and outmaneuvering or out playing your opponent vs 3 second engagements about who gets a stun off first. The people who’re used to this style are the people complaining about the ‘tank’ meta.
Pvp with too low of a TTK is just dumb, I’d rather play a shooter. It’s barely a MMO since everyone specs for solo play.Edited by Iskiab on August 3, 2019 3:57PMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten1 -
teladoy✭✭✭✭✭yes cloak op the only spell that requires a dedicated counter to be slotted, unlike any other ability that can be countered through normal means
I opened a post not long time ago about Nerf cloak, but now after play a little bit I realize is very easy to counter. I believe is a skill that sometimes can be so unfair like vulnerable, there is no mid point. Maybe in a 1 vs 1 or 2 is still very good, but in tf of many is very bad.2 -
Muzzick✭✭✭✭Is magblade easier to play than stamblade in terms of survivability and rotation complexity?
You have an instant disengage/ reset in PVP/ PVE and you can easily weave nasty combos into a lightning staff heavy attack. Stamblade certainly requires more finesse, but both have a high skill ceiling for dedicated players.
I think magblade’s easier, but I started with magblade so I’m not sure and it might just be I’m used to it.
I tried stamblade in no-CP and hated it, you can’t dodge roll enough without the CPs to reduce the cost and all Nightblade utility costs magicka. As a stamblade you have to be conservative with magicka, as a magblade you can spam for days.
I also found magblade better self healing.
If you like BGs I’d go magblade, Stamblades just don’t do well in my experience.
I agree here if you want utility on a stamblade you have to sacrifice some damage. And if you're not using utility then better to be a stamsorc. With magblade you don't have to do that. Just my experience others may not agree
(Also talking about no cp)Edited by Muzzick on August 3, 2019 5:27PM0 -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yesterday in bgs I was able to fight one after another and killing them. The most fun I had it when two guys took it personally and they were resurrecting to come to kill over and over again to die in my hands.
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Your idea of what's fun is a little unsettling.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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The_Old_Goat✭✭✭✭✭
✭Glad to hear you had some success with your magblade. I've got an old magblade character(Dunmer) that I've been trying to reconcile into cyrodiil, coming from more of a stamina side of pvp it hasn't been easy. I've considered deleting him and rerolling an Altmer or just switching to stamblade because I'm just not sure what to do with the current state of Dunmer.0 -
teladoy✭✭✭✭✭
If you put like this it may be interpreted as I could have some kind of seriously mental disorder, but no... Is only a game ...😅2 -
Ectheliontnacil✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I had a mageblade as Banker for years because I was unsuccessful in pvp and yesterday I came across an idea with a set I had already with another character, and wow I just had an incredible good time in PvP.
Not too much damage, but incredible versatile and damn powerful in 1 vs 1 or more.
The only way to kill me was shutting me down and kill me before I could get back in combat, otherwise forget it.
Yesterday in bgs I was able to fight one after another and killing them. The most fun I had it when two guys took it personally and they were resurrecting to come to kill over and over again to die in my hands.
I will keep playing and try to optimize it more. But I'm happy I finally was able to find some use for it. Also is very fun to play with the set of skills NB have, the teleport, the fear the vanishing and etc. Is very different from any other class.
And you're telling us this because...???
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teladoy✭✭✭✭✭Ectheliontnacil wrote: »I had a mageblade as Banker for years because I was unsuccessful in pvp and yesterday I came across an idea with a set I had already with another character, and wow I just had an incredible good time in PvP.
Not too much damage, but incredible versatile and damn powerful in 1 vs 1 or more.
The only way to kill me was shutting me down and kill me before I could get back in combat, otherwise forget it.
Yesterday in bgs I was able to fight one after another and killing them. The most fun I had it when two guys took it personally and they were resurrecting to come to kill over and over again to die in my hands.
I will keep playing and try to optimize it more. But I'm happy I finally was able to find some use for it. Also is very fun to play with the set of skills NB have, the teleport, the fear the vanishing and etc. Is very different from any other class.
And you're telling us this because...???
I'm just having a nice day 😁4 -
Ectheliontnacil✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Alright haha was already scared that you were pushing for magblades to get nerfed.
It's usually how it goes on the forums:
class is fun to play -> we can't have that, it must be nerfed!1 -
Tylersoh✭✭✭Does anyone still play as a duel wield or 2h magblade? I’ve always wanted to play a melee magblade but wasn’t to sure how viable it was0 -
Gatviper✭✭✭✭Dual-wield would be mostly only used on bomb builds I think, otherwise you'll want to have the distance weaving.Life is a ride, like days in a train, cities rush by, like ghosts in the night.
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Zevrro✭✭✭✭yes cloak op the only spell that requires a dedicated counter to be slotted, unlike any other ability that can be countered through normal means
I wouldn't call every aoe ability a dedicated cloak counter but okay.@Zevrro PC-EU
CP 1200+
Azura's Star/Sotha Sil/Bahlokdaan
Magicka Nightblade
AD | Zevrro | Magicka Nightblade | AR43 |
AD | Zevrro II | Magicka Nightblade | AR50 | 09-02-2019 |
DC | Not Zevrro | Magicka Nightblade | AR33 |
EP | Ževrro | Magicka Nightblade | AR14 |Other PvP Characters
AD | Zevrro VII | Stamina Warden | AR33 |
AD | Zevrro XII | Magicka Warden | AR22 |
DC | Not Zevrro II | Magicka Warden | AR14 |
DC | Necrotic Zevrro | Magicka Necromancer | AR17 |
EP | Real-Skyice | Stamina Warden | AR10 |
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brandonv516✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Does anyone still play as a duel wield or 2h magblade? I’ve always wanted to play a melee magblade but wasn’t to sure how viable it was
It's possible but you lose out on the damage potential from light attack weaving. I would suggest a lot of magicka regen and boost your speed if you do want to try 2H or DW.
2H might be more popular coming up with the changes to Onslaught but personally I'll stick with Destro/Resto.Edited by brandonv516 on August 4, 2019 1:02AM0 -
ZarkingFrued✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ectheliontnacil wrote: »I had a mageblade as Banker for years because I was unsuccessful in pvp and yesterday I came across an idea with a set I had already with another character, and wow I just had an incredible good time in PvP.
Not too much damage, but incredible versatile and damn powerful in 1 vs 1 or more.
The only way to kill me was shutting me down and kill me before I could get back in combat, otherwise forget it.
Yesterday in bgs I was able to fight one after another and killing them. The most fun I had it when two guys took it personally and they were resurrecting to come to kill over and over again to die in my hands.
I will keep playing and try to optimize it more. But I'm happy I finally was able to find some use for it. Also is very fun to play with the set of skills NB have, the teleport, the fear the vanishing and etc. Is very different from any other class.
And you're telling us this because...???
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Tylersoh✭✭✭brandonv516 wrote: »Does anyone still play as a duel wield or 2h magblade? I’ve always wanted to play a melee magblade but wasn’t to sure how viable it was
It's possible but you lose out on the damage potential from light attack weaving. I would suggest a lot of magicka regen and boost your speed if you do want to try 2H or DW.
2H might be more popular coming up with the changes to Onslaught but personally I'll stick with Destro/Resto.
That's a shame, that basically makes concealed weapon useless other than the speed bonus.0 -
brandonv516✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭brandonv516 wrote: »Does anyone still play as a duel wield or 2h magblade? I’ve always wanted to play a melee magblade but wasn’t to sure how viable it was
It's possible but you lose out on the damage potential from light attack weaving. I would suggest a lot of magicka regen and boost your speed if you do want to try 2H or DW.
2H might be more popular coming up with the changes to Onslaught but personally I'll stick with Destro/Resto.
That's a shame, that basically makes concealed weapon useless other than the speed bonus.
Don't get me wrong, it's viable with something like Zaan, Caluurions, and a sustain set.
You can run Concealed Weapon as your spammable on that type of build but you need to accept that it's going to be weak against smart/practiced opponents.
Basically, focus on easy prey if you choose a build like that!
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Gronk✭✭✭I miss the days when you could stay invisible for like forever. Then 1.6 came and the fun started to leave. I think the ZOS people need to discover the joys of pot.Old Guard since Jan 2014
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Mayrael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭BGs and new toon? You can kill anyone there with a spoon. Would like to see how you handle in high MMR, when everybody knows how to permanently disable your cloak, put a lot of pressure and are tanky as ***. Also magblade being easier than stamblade? Not very experienced you are my young padawan. In general, go to Cyrodiil, you can meet there good players much faster than in BGs (bacause of MMR) they will verify your statements very fast.I'm done with this game because of ZOS pushing us into Vengeance, because they don't know how to fix Cyrodiil.0 -
Blobsky✭✭✭✭✭
✭Once you can play magnb, you will laugh at how easy magsorc feelsYt Channell: Blobsky
DC EU Nightblade
Owner of 'The Travelling Merchant' - Craglorn trade guild since near release!1
