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Werewolves should get detection!
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I think werewolves should have a detect added to one of the skills. It makes sense from an role playing perspective that they can “sniff” out squirrelly targets.
Werewolves should get detection! 89 votes
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Wuuffyy✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesWhy not. Everything else was nerfed. Might as well get something.Wuuffyy,
WW/berserker playstyle advocate (I play ALL classes proficiently in PvP outside of WW as well)
ESO player since 2014 (Xbox and PC for PTS)
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Skoomah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesIt just fits with what werewolves are. We are the ultimate hunting companions. We sniff out our prey and pounce on the food!6 -
Skoomah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesI mean... werewolves only get one skill bar... 5 skills and 1 ultimate. Doesn’t sound like a big effort for ZOS to code.1 -
Wuuffyy✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesOn another note. I hope the pounce change is coming in the next PTS update rather than 3 months from now. Minor vaun would be a fantastic start.Edited by Wuuffyy on August 2, 2019 4:57AMWuuffyy,
WW/berserker playstyle advocate (I play ALL classes proficiently in PvP outside of WW as well)
ESO player since 2014 (Xbox and PC for PTS)
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Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesI mean... werewolves only get one skill bar... 5 skills and 1 ultimate. Doesn’t sound like a big effort for ZOS to code.
You would be surprised how easy it can be to mess up the werewolf coding
On topic:
It would be ok if it came along with some conditions, like your enemy needs to be below a certain % HP threshold for it to work while having a bleed effect on them (or something similar). But un-conditional stealth detection would be way to unbalanced.
Or give the stealth detection to pack-leader so there´s a small reason to pick that morph Edited by Qbiken on August 2, 2019 8:28AM0 -
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✭✭YesPursuit , Devour , Blood Rage , Bloodmoon , Savage Strength , Call of the Pack
Pick one to trade
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Tommy_The_Gun✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesEven if they get detection, idk rly know if it will be worth transforming next update... Still waiting for monday PTS. I know I am a fool to expect some last-minute changes for WW, but in its curent state on PTS, ww has seriuos problems. It brings nothing unique and worth it, and there is simply no benefit that would justife 300 ulti cost and only 1 bar and lack of ulti in WW form.
In short, the paradox is that WW is the most expensive ulti in game, and at the same time - the worst ulti in game.Edited by Tommy_The_Gun on August 2, 2019 8:31AM4 -
Dinokstrun✭✭✭Makes perfect sense to me and I'd love to this mechanic added to the Werewolf kit. I mean Werewolves are hunters/predators after all and should be able to sniff out prey in this case sneaky players0 -
hakan✭✭✭✭✭Cloak makes you shift to shadowrealm (kinda?) so i dont think there is anything to sniff, except your dirty old fur1 -
Royalthought✭✭✭✭✭Kind of a nerf nightblades post.
They've had way too many nerfs these last few patches already.
This isn't necessary. Besides, it won't fix werewolf issues.1 -
Wuuffyy✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesRoyalthought wrote: »Kind of a nerf nightblades post.
They've had way too many nerfs these last few patches already.
This isn't necessary. Besides, it won't fix werewolf issues.
Sounds good to me. Idfc about your NB. Do you care about my werewolf?Wuuffyy,
WW/berserker playstyle advocate (I play ALL classes proficiently in PvP outside of WW as well)
ESO player since 2014 (Xbox and PC for PTS)
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✭✭NoWhat's the point of cloak if everything is able to detect NBs?
Playing any game means that if you want something, you have to give away something. There must be a trade.
In the case of WW, they get a bunch of great stats and resources at the cost of not being able to detect stealthy guys. Ok, if you want to give them the chance to detect sneaky NBs, then you should give away something else.
Otherwise, what's the point of playing this game without being a WW if they get everything?Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique4 -
Royalthought✭✭✭✭✭Wolf_Watching wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Kind of a nerf nightblades post.
They've had way too many nerfs these last few patches already.
This isn't necessary. Besides, it won't fix werewolf issues.
Sounds good to me. Idfc about your NB. Do you care about my werewolf?
Care? If you don't care about nightblades, why does detection sound good to you? Lol
Detection isn't going to get werewolves out of the trash.
They need something better than that.4 -
Dashmatt✭✭✭✭YesWhat's the point of cloak if everything is able to detect NBs?
Playing any game means that if you want something, you have to give away something. There must be a trade.
In the case of WW, they get a bunch of great stats and resources at the cost of not being able to detect stealthy guys. Ok, if you want to give them the chance to detect sneaky NBs, then you should give away something else.
Otherwise, what's the point of playing this game without being a WW if they get everything?
Werewolves can’t sneak. In exchange they could have detection. Seems like a fair trade.
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Royalthought✭✭✭✭✭What's the point of cloak if everything is able to detect NBs?
Playing any game means that if you want something, you have to give away something. There must be a trade.
In the case of WW, they get a bunch of great stats and resources at the cost of not being able to detect stealthy guys. Ok, if you want to give them the chance to detect sneaky NBs, then you should give away something else.
Otherwise, what's the point of playing this game without being a WW if they get everything?
Werewolves can’t sneak. In exchange they could have detection. Seems like a fair trade.
They can't cast shields either. Where's the ability to ignore that?
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Dashmatt✭✭✭✭YesRoyalthought wrote: »What's the point of cloak if everything is able to detect NBs?
Playing any game means that if you want something, you have to give away something. There must be a trade.
In the case of WW, they get a bunch of great stats and resources at the cost of not being able to detect stealthy guys. Ok, if you want to give them the chance to detect sneaky NBs, then you should give away something else.
Otherwise, what's the point of playing this game without being a WW if they get everything?
Werewolves can’t sneak. In exchange they could have detection. Seems like a fair trade.
They can't cast shields either. Where's the ability to ignore that?
Logic
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Royalthought✭✭✭✭✭Royalthought wrote: »What's the point of cloak if everything is able to detect NBs?
Playing any game means that if you want something, you have to give away something. There must be a trade.
In the case of WW, they get a bunch of great stats and resources at the cost of not being able to detect stealthy guys. Ok, if you want to give them the chance to detect sneaky NBs, then you should give away something else.
Otherwise, what's the point of playing this game without being a WW if they get everything?
Werewolves can’t sneak. In exchange they could have detection. Seems like a fair trade.
They can't cast shields either. Where's the ability to ignore that?
Logic
Great suggestion!
I'm not even mad at you for that. Lol
Edit: Forgot to say. Not happening.
Edited by Royalthought on August 2, 2019 6:57PM0 -
Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NoWhat's the point of cloak if everything is able to detect NBs?
Playing any game means that if you want something, you have to give away something. There must be a trade.
In the case of WW, they get a bunch of great stats and resources at the cost of not being able to detect stealthy guys. Ok, if you want to give them the chance to detect sneaky NBs, then you should give away something else.
Otherwise, what's the point of playing this game without being a WW if they get everything?
Werewolves can’t sneak. In exchange they could have detection. Seems like a fair trade.
And they get 18% extra wpn dmg and 10 k spell and wpn resistance just after pressing one button.
If i'd give something to WW is an increased transformation time. 30 secs is to little time. 45 secs - 1 min seems fair.
Anyway if you give WW detection, then it will become a wasted passive if there's no cloaking NB around. NBs won't bother sloting a skill that doesn't work for 30 secs if there's a doggy aroundSarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique1 -
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✭✭✭YesOn the condition werewolves have to dodge roll to activate detection
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darkblue5✭✭✭✭✭What's the point of cloak if everything is able to detect NBs?
Playing any game means that if you want something, you have to give away something. There must be a trade.
In the case of WW, they get a bunch of great stats and resources at the cost of not being able to detect stealthy guys. Ok, if you want to give them the chance to detect sneaky NBs, then you should give away something else.
Otherwise, what's the point of playing this game without being a WW if they get everything?
Werewolves can’t sneak. In exchange they could have detection. Seems like a fair trade.
And they get 18% extra wpn dmg and 10 k spell and wpn resistance just after pressing one button.
If i'd give something to WW is an increased transformation time. 30 secs is to little time. 45 secs - 1 min seems fair.
Anyway if you give WW detection, then it will become a wasted passive if there's no cloaking NB around. NBs won't bother sloting a skill that doesn't work for 30 secs if there's a doggy around
Cloakblades are already at an all time low. Perfect time to make a skill that gets countered by like 4 dedicated skills, one dedicated potion effect, and every AOE damage skill in existence useless if someone plays a WW in the 30 person zerg a NB is solo ganking. Yeah, that makes sense.3 -
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✭✭NoWhat's the point of cloak if everything is able to detect NBs?
Playing any game means that if you want something, you have to give away something. There must be a trade.
In the case of WW, they get a bunch of great stats and resources at the cost of not being able to detect stealthy guys. Ok, if you want to give them the chance to detect sneaky NBs, then you should give away something else.
Otherwise, what's the point of playing this game without being a WW if they get everything?
Werewolves can’t sneak. In exchange they could have detection. Seems like a fair trade.
And they get 18% extra wpn dmg and 10 k spell and wpn resistance just after pressing one button.
If i'd give something to WW is an increased transformation time. 30 secs is to little time. 45 secs - 1 min seems fair.
Anyway if you give WW detection, then it will become a wasted passive if there's no cloaking NB around. NBs won't bother sloting a skill that doesn't work for 30 secs if there's a doggy around
Cloakblades are already at an all time low. Perfect time to make a skill that gets countered by like 4 dedicated skills, one dedicated potion effect, and every AOE damage skill in existence useless if someone plays a WW in the 30 person zerg a NB is solo ganking. Yeah, that makes sense.
Yup, that's another good point.
WW run better in packs. It takes only one guy with a detect pot in the group to use it in the right moment to tear the cloakblade into pieces, and not a dedicated passive/skill.
It would be too situational.Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique0 -
Zelos✭✭✭✭✭NoI dont understand why people have such a hard time finding nightblades, I find them in cloak constantly. Just use detect pots, if you want to counter the main defense of a class YOU HAVE TO TRADE SOMETHING. So you're trade is your potion to defeat the mains defense. You shouldnt be able to do everything ffs.Aeonhack - AD Stamina Nightblade - 5 Star General
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Jodynn✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesI think werewolves should have a detect added to one of the skills. It makes sense from an role playing perspective that they can “sniff” out squirrelly targets.
Werewolves having detection makes sense lore wise and I would find it interesting, they need more tools than running around crazy just smacking ***, the gameplay right now is pretty brain dead, why not add some tactical things to it, second barswap with something perhaps? IDK, currently it doesn't offer enough for me to be one, but this seems like a cool advance.Jodynn PC NA
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GusTheWizard✭✭✭✭YesSure. And let’s make Baleful Mist(Mist Form morph) give invisibility, because it kinda goes with vampires.1
