Why do you say that? Can you even test off-balance and therefore the heavy attack 170% bonus on dummies? (I honestly don't know) Also, mobs are what people are fighting 90% of the game, not bosses, so why wouldn't it be better reflective of a real game experience?

malistorr wrote: »

Why do you say that? Can you even test off-balance and therefore the heavy attack 170% bonus on dummies? (I honestly don't know) Also, mobs are what people are fighting 90% of the game, not bosses, so why wouldn't it be better reflective of a real game experience?

Overland mobs don't have enough hp for any optimization changes to your build changing the time to kill.

malistorr wrote: »

Josef, I don't know what you mean about using stamina skills to have "both sets going". Please explain.
I have 64-points in magic and use only a few skills, all magic I believe. I use none of the skills that you mentioned.

Undaunted Unweaver requires a stamina ability use to proc the damage buff and Undaunted Infiltrator requires a magic ability use to proc.

Naftal, That's not exactly true. But you won't change the time by much just tweaking 1 or 2 minor things, agreed. But that's not relevant to the DPS discussion. We're trying to determine DPS parse, not time to kill. Whether you're killing some enemies in mobs in 2.7-seconds, or 2.8-seconds, the add-ons should still show you your increased DPS regardless.

Honestly, I'm doing so well that people are asking me in dungeon groups now what sets I'm using and what my DPS is because they're really impressed with how fast I'm killing things and cruising through dungeons or even trials. I'm sure these are some lower or mid-level players, but they also go into these groups with high-level stam players as well. Apparently I keep up with or do better than just about all those.

My AOE is apparently really noticeable and I think so much so, that I heard some of my skills are getting big nerfs in the upcoming update. (I haven't read all the details yet but I'm confident I'll be able to adapt quickly, or may not even need to)

And best of all, the super high heavy attack that's easy to use (even for people who are older or have disabilities, or just plain don't want to bar swap, weave, or have complicated rotations because they think that play style is not fun (like me))

My build is not the best, never said it was, but I have fun playing every night and do really really well, so mission accomplished. And I guess I'll just have to test the enchant and trait on the lightning staff after the update. It's coming soon I think so I won't bother testing now. I'm not even sure I'll test then since it takes a lot of time and effort. If I'm still crushing dungeons and trials then I'll just keep playing and having fun and let others treat the game like it's a lab experiment. If the damage doesn't vary by more than a percent or so regardless of enchant and trait, then I won't even really care about the answer to my original question. I only asked in case the enchant and trait actually made a significant difference.

I'm thinking there will be a big difference. I need charged to be able to proc concussion 80+% of the time. WOE then makes them off-balanced and then I get the 170% heavy attack bonus. Since my gear is all designed for max heavy attacks then I do crazy damage. And from what I just read in the update 23 change notes, the only thing that will really be nerfed is a bit of the damage from a couple of the AOE skils that I use. But they are being improved in other ways also, which makes the damage decrease not as hard to adapt to. I saw that off-balance will last 2-seconds longer as well, which should make this strategy even more viable (Since it's built on max heavy attack and I'll have an extra 2-seconds to do 170% more damage from an already very powerful attack). I get that I can keep the monster set if I back-bar the maelstrom staff, and some day I may decide to do that. For now I have never bar-swapped and the idea of playing that way doesn't appeal to me.

I see that glyph of shock just adds x damage with no timer. And glyph of weapon damage increases your spell damage for 5-seconds. But I don't understand how often it can fire, if there's a cooldown etc. Is it up 100% of the time? If not, what determines how often it can fire, what makes it fire, etc.? Without knowing that I have no idea how useful it can really be. If it's only active 25% of the time then it sounds like glyph of shock would be much more useful as its bonus is up 100% of the time.

If I single-bar maelstrom staff it founds like glyph of shock charged is the way to go.
If I double-bar then probably back bar maelstrom lightning staff with glyph of shock charged and front bar UI lightning staff with glyph of shock infused. If anyone disagrees please let me know why. Again this is to maximize concussion/off-balance/heavy attack damage.

malistorr wrote: »

I'm thinking there will be a big difference. I need charged to be able to proc concussion 80+% of the time. WOE then makes them off-balanced and then I get the 170% heavy attack bonus. Since my gear is all designed for max heavy attacks then I do crazy damage. And from what I just read in the update 23 change notes, the only thing that will really be nerfed is a bit of the damage from a couple of the AOE skils that I use. But they are being improved in other ways also, which makes the damage decrease not as hard to adapt to. I saw that off-balance will last 2-seconds longer as well, which should make this strategy even more viable (Since it's built on max heavy attack and I'll have an extra 2-seconds to do 170% more damage from an already very powerful attack). I get that I can keep the monster set if I back-bar the maelstrom staff, and some day I may decide to do that. For now I have never bar-swapped and the idea of playing that way doesn't appeal to me.

I see that glyph of shock just adds x damage with no timer. And glyph of weapon damage increases your spell damage for 5-seconds. But I don't understand how often it can fire, if there's a cooldown etc. Is it up 100% of the time? If not, what determines how often it can fire, what makes it fire, etc.? Without knowing that I have no idea how useful it can really be. If it's only active 25% of the time then it sounds like glyph of shock would be much more useful as its bonus is up 100% of the time.

If I single-bar maelstrom staff it founds like glyph of shock charged is the way to go.
If I double-bar then probably back bar maelstrom lightning staff with glyph of shock charged and front bar UI lightning staff with glyph of shock infused. If anyone disagrees please let me know why. Again this is to maximize concussion/off-balance/heavy attack damage.

All weapon enchantments have a cooldown period. For infused berserker it's 5 seconds, so you can get 100% uptime. For charged shock I believe it would be 10 seconds (can't remember for sure off the top of my head). So you wouldn't be proccing the shock enchantment constantly, only 1 time per cooldown.

Just found this, anyone know if it's still accurate? As this post is from 2-years ago or so.

"The information is very simple.
Increase Weapon and spell damage (self buff)
Decrease weapon and spell damage (enemy debuff)
Both have 10 second cool down, and 5 second duration

Everything else, all direct damage (fire, frost, shock, disease, poison...) and glyphs like shielding, absurd health, stam, mag.
EVERYTHING else, has a cool down of 4 seconds.

The confusion here is due mostly to confusion of terms, people using terms like "uptime" interchangeably with "cooldown".

Let me explain in detail to resolve any confusion;
The Increase Weapon and Spell Damage glyph can be made to have 100% uptime, which is what people were incorrectly and confusingly calling "no cooldown".
With the Infused weapon trait, the 10 second cooldown (which starts the moment the glyph is triggered) can be reduced to 5 seconds - the exact length of time the buff is active - allowing it to be triggered again basically right as the effect ends.
To put it another way, if you stand in front of a target dummy and just light attack over and over:
Without infused, the buff will be active 50% of the time. 5 seconds on, 5 seconds off.
With infused, it will be up 100% of the time.
The same goes for the decrease glyph, the debuff on your enemy, but of course that only applies to one target at a time.

The REST of the glyphs, with infused, go down to about 2 seconds.
I say "about" because it's not always in synch with your weapon swings, but if you average it out over like say, 60 seconds, the enchant will trigger about 15 times without infused, and about 30 times with infused."