JumpmanLane wrote: »

Geeze, just q as a fake tank. Who cares.

"Public dungeon". Well I guess you personally can gueue on those too if you want, and be as fake a tank as you want. Tell us how it went.

veroxiousvemo wrote: »

Speaking of public dungeons, what is the respawn time for them mobs? I waited like half an hour for Thick Bark (Grahtwood), but he still didn't show up, so I gave up and logged off lol. Going to try again tonight.

If you're using some addon to show the boss locations, I've found a couple of bosses with the wrong location shown. If a boss isn't spawning for a long time, best to check if the location is correct.

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Without doubt there is more DD because it is two DD in a group which makes it easier to not become main target when something goes wrong.

DD and healer get often attacked when tank looses taunt. this also happens when we are dealing with so called "fake tank" a dd who qd as tank to skip qd - we often see bosses running all over the place or attacking other group members.


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daemonios wrote: »

@RexyCat if you want to DD you need to invest just as much or as little as if you want to tank or heal. You can't DD efficiently, or to a high standard, in tank gear any more than you can tank in DD gear.

I honestly don't know why you'd say DDs require any less investment than other roles. Any class can do those roles (some better than others), if players don't want to have a go at it it's because they... don't want to heal or tank.

I think what they're getting at is DD characters can take most of the gear/skills they're using for group content and apply them to solo content with reasonable results. Sure, maybe you want to change a few skills around - more if you're trying to solo, say, a world boss - and maybe some gear. Optimally, you might want to change everything.

But if I go out on my tank with S+B, Ebon/Torug's, and 30 points into HP, soloing even trash enemies is tedious as hell. I just hunt skyshards, do quests for skill points, delves for Undaunted, etc. on my DD characters, and run normal/vet dungeons. None of them even use Dressing Room. My tank and healer characters use the heck out of Dressing Room, because without changing everything, solo is terrible.

So yeah, to do group content at a high level (speed runs, some DLC vet dungeons, trials, etc.) or solo at a high level (VMA, world boss, etc.), every role needs different gear+skills. But it's easy to take the same gear/skills I just used for my stamina Warden to run a daily random and go run through a main story quest. Trying the same on tank/healer is a bucket of nope, though healer isn't quite as bad as tank.

bakthi wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

@RexyCat if you want to DD you need to invest just as much or as little as if you want to tank or heal. You can't DD efficiently, or to a high standard, in tank gear any more than you can tank in DD gear.

I honestly don't know why you'd say DDs require any less investment than other roles. Any class can do those roles (some better than others), if players don't want to have a go at it it's because they... don't want to heal or tank.

I think what they're getting at is DD characters can take most of the gear/skills they're using for group content and apply them to solo content with reasonable results. Sure, maybe you want to change a few skills around - more if you're trying to solo, say, a world boss - and maybe some gear. Optimally, you might want to change everything.

But if I go out on my tank with S+B, Ebon/Torug's, and 30 points into HP, soloing even trash enemies is tedious as hell. I just hunt skyshards, do quests for skill points, delves for Undaunted, etc. on my DD characters, and run normal/vet dungeons. None of them even use Dressing Room. My tank and healer characters use the heck out of Dressing Room, because without changing everything, solo is terrible.

So yeah, to do group content at a high level (speed runs, some DLC vet dungeons, trials, etc.) or solo at a high level (VMA, world boss, etc.), every role needs different gear+skills. But it's easy to take the same gear/skills I just used for my stamina Warden to run a daily random and go run through a main story quest. Trying the same on tank/healer is a bucket of nope, though healer isn't quite as bad as tank.

For tank I focused on stamina as attribute, tank armor is all health and an touch of magic, tri stat food.
Overland I go medium armor, all stamina, vo and some other set with stamina food.
Yes as an DD tank is low cp as its tank focused, but its not something I would ever bring into an dungeon
Did once in an guild run who ended with two tanks.

But no issue overland including public dungeons, not tested the Elsweyr ones where the group challenge boss is normal group dungeon level, necro died a lot there, even my sorcerer died the first time, overland bar has no heals.