There ARE definately bots farming these bosses, I've played enough of these games to recongnise the difference.. I sat and watched some in action last night. A couple of us even managed to get some of them killed by dragging aggro from other mobs (not the boss they were farming) to their area.. they'd simply ignore the additional aggro till they died.

While it didn't stop me getting the credit for the kill I needed.. having these kind of bots just spoils the game for many people..

Also if it 'gets out' that the game is a buggy mess, that is over-run by bots and gold spammers it soon becomes an unattractive propostion and people are put off the game without even trying it, which is not good for the future of the game..

I have to wonder about the motives of people defending these actions, or telling people to get over it, or trying to discredit people's legitimate complaints by telling them they don't know the difference between a bot or not...

In some way botting must be easier in this game than i thought.
Imagine for example what a player could do if he had access to a tool to warp his character underground like the mining bots...
This has impact on pvp gameplay too. (Teleport, Map hack, See other players postions)

Another point to think about is: why are there so many bots, this time round goldfarmers can even talk, create guilds etc.
In my opinion there are to many customers, someone is buying the gold and services. Else there would be no business.
I consider it cheating, but in part this is due to extreme costs of nearly everything (Bank Space, Bag Space, Mounts, Repair Costs, respec)

For example if i try difficult content, like undermanning content, i sometimes have to stop because i run out of gold. The easy way out would be to buy gold, and obviously lots of people are taking that way...

- Zenimax should massively improve their cheat detection
- also every seller AND buyer should be permanently banned
- why *** are there no authenticators, these farmers are a major security risk too

Do all of these bosses drop a blue? I stayed and killed one about 10 times, and often I got nothing but a soul gem, and rarely got a green item.

gharms wrote: »

Do all of these bosses drop a blue? I stayed and killed one about 10 times, and often I got nothing but a soul gem, and rarely got a green item.

All of the encampment bosses have a unique, named, blue that you can get as a drop from them. The Delve bosses sometimes drop blues, but I'm not sure if they're unique to them, or just more prone to dropping blues than normal foes.

Harkrider wrote: »

shadyjane62 wrote: »

We stopped doing quests, too buggy, stopped doing dungeons too many bots, stopped doing crafting, the banks are unreliable and the nodes disappear too fast to get the items, the loot is too small and worthless for us to accumulate much. The guilds are untrustworthy and now players so afraid of joining conversations you can't make friends. You can't even make a whisper as it takes 3 minutes to arrive. Hard to keep a clear track of any chat since they make pictures with bits and bytes and fill the entire chat window.

So any suggestions as to what my husband can actually do in game? So many things here but unable to do any of them. Have been through many launches, this by far the worst.

Can you elaborate on why you completely stopped questing due to bugs?

I know that my experience is not the same as everybody else's, but I am now level 43 and I have encountered only a single quest that was rendered unable to be completed due to a bug. I've completed nearly 300 other quests.

My husband is 71 and wasted time on early quests that were unable to be completed. He no longer wants to try. And if it was just one problem, but it's so many. I am trying hard to keep him in game but I fear that time has gone. This is a time we should be playing together as we always do in games but I am on forums and he is netflixbinging.

shadyjane62 wrote: »

Harkrider wrote: »

shadyjane62 wrote: »

We stopped doing quests, too buggy, stopped doing dungeons too many bots, stopped doing crafting, the banks are unreliable and the nodes disappear too fast to get the items, the loot is too small and worthless for us to accumulate much. The guilds are untrustworthy and now players so afraid of joining conversations you can't make friends. You can't even make a whisper as it takes 3 minutes to arrive. Hard to keep a clear track of any chat since they make pictures with bits and bytes and fill the entire chat window.

So any suggestions as to what my husband can actually do in game? So many things here but unable to do any of them. Have been through many launches, this by far the worst.

Can you elaborate on why you completely stopped questing due to bugs?

I know that my experience is not the same as everybody else's, but I am now level 43 and I have encountered only a single quest that was rendered unable to be completed due to a bug. I've completed nearly 300 other quests.

My husband is 71 and wasted time on early quests that were unable to be completed. He no longer wants to try. And if it was just one problem, but it's so many. I am trying hard to keep him in game but I fear that time has gone. This is a time we should be playing together as we always do in games but I am on forums and he is netflixbinging.

I'm very sorry to hear that.

Are you playing Aldmeri Dominion by any chance? If so, I might be able to help you get around some of the issues you're having with quests. I'm quite familiar with the Aldmeri quests, because I had to play through them several times throughout beta and PTS, and sometimes the solution to a bugged quest is as simple as logging out and back in.

If nothing else, you might want to return to the game at a later point, after Zenimax has had a chance to get the kinks worked out! Better late than never, right?

Hielic wrote: »

Im pretty sure ZM is working on it , but these things take time ... if it gets to annoying for you maybe wait a month or two and then come back and see if they have fixed it , i have personally nothing againts people that farm bosses its the way it has been done for ages .... but what i do hate is people using keyboard cheats/ bots to farm bosses.

The bots are acutally quite easy to spot, report get your kill and move on.

I dont know but if they were to make the bosses spawn in random locations in a random pattern maybe that would help with the bots ?

You're right, there is nothing wrong with simply farming bosses it's a legitimate (if not mindnumbingly boring) way to play.

However what I and I'm certain many others have witnessed goes far beyond simple farming.

That said, if these dungeon bosses are to be farmable, then ideally they should be instanced so as not to interfere with others' game play. At present the way things are one of the few 'tougher' solo fights (yeah I know.. I use that phrase lightly) is being spolied by this farming.

well I have been online 45 mins reported over 20 bots in Dhalmora.The emails I receive after reporting them are flagged as solved within 2 minutes of me sending them..yet you still see the same bot warping around..so someone is incorrect.

For me this is becoming a joke bots have been around for over 15 years doing the same thing yet it seems with the amount of money that mmo companies pile into MMO's they do nothing to prevent the high volume of bots in a new released game,yet this is common knowledge that it always happens.

Please sort these vermin out and ban the players (wouldn't call them that but keeping it polite) who buy from them as they are the ones who are encouraging the farmers in the first place,no market = 0 bots

What is so sad is that a demand exists for these services. It boggles the mind at how much disposable income is spent on these services just to save time or stroke that epeen.

I'm waiting for a game to come out that offers fully equipped, maximum level characters as part of the super-duper box set for only US$800. I bet a whole lot of whales would buy it :'(

Harkrider wrote: »

Avorniel wrote: »

well I have been online 45 mins reported over 20 bots in Dhalmora.The emails I receive after reporting them are flagged as solved within 2 minutes of me sending them..yet you still see the same bot warping around..so someone is incorrect.

For me this is becoming a joke bots have been around for over 15 years doing the same thing yet it seems with the amount of money that mmo companies pile into MMO's they do nothing to prevent the high volume of bots in a new released game,yet this is common knowledge that it always happens.

Please sort these vermin out and ban the players (wouldn't call them that but keeping it polite) who buy from them as they are the ones who are encouraging the farmers in the first place,no market = 0 bots

You will not receive a real response when reporting another player.

The email you receive is the result of an automated system which is simply providing you confirmation that your report has been received. In order for any action to be taken, the account that has been reported must be investigated, which takes time.

Not only that, but disciplinary actions are never shared with anyone besides the person being reprimanded, therefore you will never be told if they were banned, muted, etc. This is to protect players and their personal information.

Just clearing that up. The reason you receive such a quick response is because it's simply an automated confirmation, and there's nothing else that can be said aside from 'we'll look into it'.

Don't know if your correct in that considering the reports I have done for getting mail ingame spam from gold sellers are still open and not solved,if they are just doing a blanket response theses should also be solved as well going by what you are saying.

Every time I log in now I see hundreds of bots either: gold spamming, boss camping, or invisible harvesting. They not only harvest outside world nodes, they harvest desks/nightstands/wardrobes (inside of buildings). This is gamebreaking.

ZOS really needs to put a stop to it. I even reported a multi-boxing bot boss camping.

And...

How about loot chests? For me its like 1-2 per hours of gameplay in open world, used to be 1-2 every 15-20mins!

This is bots fault or i'm just unlucky?

Bob wrote: »

And...

How about loot chests? For me its like 1-2 per hours of gameplay in open world, used to be 1-2 every 15-20mins!

This is bots fault or i'm just unlucky?

Just unlucky, chest require user action where as mining can be macro'd.

Keep searching

ESO, give me ban rights, ill sort them out for you........

It is ruining the gaming experience, botting / multiboxing is getting worse.

From my group of friends and generally the vibe I get from ingame chat. What happens within this first 30days of gameplay will impact on their decision to continue with subscription or not.

Why are they announcing more endgame content? When there are bugs and other issues, basic things to get right if the game is to survive and succeed.

Botting and gold selling are one and the same problem (it is how gold sellers get their money, if you have not already realised). It was so bad last night I'm inclined to blame them for all the latency issues. Chat lag was terrible, joking aside.

Please, Game moderators need to start taking noticeable action on this issue. It will cost far less to hire two more people to work on each server to start tackling the problem. Than what will be lost in terms of revenue from lost customers.

From ingame chat it seems a lot of people are thinking that bots/gold sellers are being left because they have to buy the game for each account, which is generating revenue. I really hope that is not the case!