They are on Strike because they are the lesser known Atronachs and feel they are being held back. Demands were rumored to be: more involved in dragon fights and becoming an ultimate or ability before Frost and Fire Atronachs.

MrGarlic wrote: »

The best place to farm them is in the Forgotten Wastes public dungeon in VVaarrdenfell

They have to be killed while fighting dragons for the achievement the OP is talking about. I've also had less spawns of them than the other two.

Ragged_Claw wrote: »

Yeah it's almost always flame atronachs if anything spawns at all. Don't know why these would be rarer, unless it's just designed to be grindy to keep people occupied for longer lol.

Only the Grey ones will spawn the Iron Atros. If they're a Red one, they will only drop Wyrms or Flame Atros

I think this is why, and maybe I'm making a leap here, it is called an achievement. Perhaps some grinding is involved.

There is a daily delve that provides them as well; I forget the name, but it's the one where you must put out the braziers in front of portals (now and again, they are activated, resulting in one iron atronach as a 'last mob' through the gate).

Hope this helps!

FinneganFroth wrote: »

I think this is why, and maybe I'm making a leap here, it is called an achievement. Perhaps some grinding is involved.

Achievement where people feel is just a pure grind to artificially keep on hunting dragons can backfire as very few would want to keep on and repeat something that is nearly in contradiction to how large World Bosses like Dragon works: the are killed as fast as possible because of other the number of players which also have high damage (zerg mechanic) and other achievements that are built around this like collecting motifs and rewards. Grinding is by itself bad method to keep player to play content as it will reduce enjoyment of doing that content over time. You can see that there are changes in game that acknowledge this as for CS skill lines, content that are changed like how to get a complete Monster sets and with traits that can be changed etc.

When you have already 2 out of 3 achievement from doing daily dragon quests and running for a couple more, then that last one is just annoying to keep on trying to complete. For use that at least have an interest in completing achievements this isn't a good way to keep us from playing in a zone or do anything.

//RexyCat

Ekadzati wrote: »

There is a daily delve that provides them as well; I forget the name, but it's the one where you must put out the braziers in front of portals (now and again, they are activated, resulting in one iron atronach as a 'last mob' through the gate).

Hope this helps!

Thanks for that suggestion!

Only problem with that dungeon that have a daily quest is that those Atro seem to be killed very fast, so one really need to watch when those spawn.

If this works, then one could create groups and share this quests to farm those Iron Atro to finish this achievement.

Here is daily quest: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Dousing_the_Daedric_Flame


//RexyCat

kwinter wrote: »

More important question are the dragons grey, Blue, or Black. Everyone agrees the red dragons are red but no one seem to agree on the 2nd dragon

Blue and black might as well depends on settings for colour, gamma and light (brightness and contrast) as at some stages blue look black when it is enough darkness light settings combined with level of gamma. There are settings that control this in Windows (for PC), in video cards drivers, on display itself and in game. So there several places where how dark something need to be to look "black" vs "blue". In summertime and during day time you most likely set up your brightness (light) to a higher degree then during winter which would make some colour look much brighter then normal or get tint of another colour which you don't see when the room or place you sit in is lit up.


As far I can tell from looking on wiki images for how Iron Atronach look, they have very similar look to fire atro just are larger in general. Never thought those two larger Atro where Iron and not Flame atro....


//RexyCat

This is turning me mad. This is NOT something you can f****n calculate or anything. First problem is grey dragon spawns are almost less than half of red dragon spawns. And second problem is when they spawn they can be soooooooooooooooo easily nuked that you have to be the luckiest person in the entire earth to see them fly and those atros spawn. Dude people just nuke them. Not even their fault they can do whatever the sh!t they want with a public mob/boss.

There has to be these dumbest ideas from ZOS in every single patch i swear. Just stop being that dumb dude.

RexyCat wrote: »

FinneganFroth wrote: »

I think this is why, and maybe I'm making a leap here, it is called an achievement. Perhaps some grinding is involved.

Achievement where people feel is just a pure grind to artificially keep on hunting dragons can backfire as very few would want to keep on and repeat something that is nearly in contradiction to how large World Bosses like Dragon works: the are killed as fast as possible because of other the number of players which also have high damage (zerg mechanic) and other achievements that are built around this like collecting motifs and rewards. Grinding is by itself bad method to keep player to play content as it will reduce enjoyment of doing that content over time. You can see that there are changes in game that acknowledge this as for CS skill lines, content that are changed like how to get a complete Monster sets and with traits that can be changed etc.

When you have already 2 out of 3 achievement from doing daily dragon quests and running for a couple more, then that last one is just annoying to keep on trying to complete. For use that at least have an interest in completing achievements this isn't a good way to keep us from playing in a zone or do anything.

//RexyCat

I'm plenty interested in getting achievements and your argument could be made for the stupid trophy achievements as well. It's a grind, so what? If you want something NOW, call J. G. Wentworth.

SirAndy wrote: »

Ekadzati wrote: »

There is a daily delve that provides them as well; I forget the name, but it's the one where you must put out the braziers in front of portals (now and again, they are activated, resulting in one iron atronach as a 'last mob' through the gate).
Hope this helps!

@Ekadzati

The ones in the (daily) delve do *not* count against that achievement!

Hm, I'm not sure that's accurate, but will double-check. I have 60/100 and I promise you, I've not been that busy on the dragon cycle.

Excellent, one less thing for me!