Shields are pretty trash
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Jodynn✭✭✭✭✭
✭Okay so I retain sorcs have plenty of tools IF their shields are 8K+, 6K is just stupid lowJodynn PC NA
PvE and PvP MagDK
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Vortigaunt✭✭✭brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »Okay so I retain sorcs have plenty of tools IF their shields are 8K+, 6K is just stupid low
Not even 8k+ is acceptable lol. Heals at 8k+ can crit, be buffed into oblivion etc. shields are 8k and that’s it0 -
Jodynn✭✭✭✭✭
✭This is like when they tried to put cast times on shieldsJodynn PC NA
PvE and PvP MagDK
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Lord-Otto✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »This is like when they tried to put cast times on shields
Oh, no. That was FAR worse. It destroyed PvE and PvP, completely eliminated reactive gameplay and dropped your dps, mobility, crowd control and healing, support... EVERYTHING, by forcing you into wasted cast time.0 -
Dark_Lord_Kuro✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭My sorc shield will be buffed
Before murkmire i had a shield size of about 16k
After it it was about 9k so an overshield of 7k
With the nerf in earlier pst the nerf went trought the overshield leaving me with the same shield size and still a bit more overshield left
Now ill get back a part of the overshield to my actual shield
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iCaliban✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »My sorc shield will be buffed
Before murkmire i had a shield size of about 16k
After it it was about 9k so an overshield of 7k
With the nerf in earlier pst the nerf went trought the overshield leaving me with the same shield size and still a bit more overshield left
Now ill get back a part of the overshield to my actual shield
This is a pve scenario
Pve is a complete non issue to be honest. Outside of very very specific content, most PVE content doesnt require a shield at all.
This is also a pvp post. These nerfs go too far. Sure matriarch heals/LOS/damage was perhaps overtuned. But nuking pets AND shields in the same patch is too much with nothing given back.
Forcing everyone into RR is silly.
Edited by iCaliban on July 26, 2019 3:50PM0 -
Galarthor✭✭✭✭✭
✭I wonder how crap like this makes it even ontot he PTS? One would assume that ZOS thinks these changes through before implementing them. Yet it appears, they just take the first idea that springs into their minds and randomly throw in some number and then implement that without considering the ramifications. We had had so many terrible changes in the past that didn't even require testing b/c common sense and logic already screamed "bad idea". Yet ZOS seemed to have hearing problem and implements stupid stuff like this nonetheless.
PS: If 6k shields were so great, everybody would be running 5 Light Armor on Live regardless of their build just to get those small shields!
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Kova✭✭✭✭✭The most shocking revelation is that shields were sooo much stronger years ago, sorcs could infinitely streak, magblades could sustain off of a single shield, dks were absolute monsters of tank and spank and still...still players were beating these OP classes in duels and openworld.
Since then damage has increased, set based proc damage was introduced, the skill gap has closed to a skill ditch, healing went bananas, and the tanky burst meta began it's now 3 year rule of pvp.
And here we argue, again, about shields. I can only think of three reasons for this:
1. Players are just getting worse at the game
2. The combat design has achieved singularity and we're all trapped in a timeless void in which all patches render every class both op and weak at the same time.
3. Players will always find a reason to complain over losing due to hurt ego, which fuels changes to the game that requires more time spent in game until the next bit of content releases.Edited by Kova on July 28, 2019 9:02PMEP Sorc: Aydinn
AD Stamplar: Verdant`Knight
DC Stamblade: Apple`Punch
EP Stam Sorc: Kós
AD DragonKnight: Transmigrant
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Saril_Durzam✭✭✭✭Who stacks shields on PvE? Waste of GCDs. Issues with shield stacking is about PvP.0 -
josh.lackey_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Even hardcore sorcs I know who have play magsorc for 4+ years through thick and then are gearing up to play a stam toons next patch. One is moving to magplar. Haven't figured out what I will do yet, but it won't be sorc. The shield nerf is the nail in the coffin. They are too small and too expensive. Maybe just one nerf (cost or size) would have been doable. But not both. It's clearly just shield hate from a stamblade main now working on class balance.3 -
Slimebrow✭✭✭Too bad you can't throw shields like a boomerang...would have been more useful in terms of dishing out more damage.
Edited by Slimebrow on July 29, 2019 8:48AM0 -
Giljabrar✭✭✭✭josh.lackey_ESO wrote: »Even hardcore sorcs I know who have play magsorc for 4+ years through thick and then are gearing up to play a stam toons next patch. One is moving to magplar. Haven't figured out what I will do yet, but it won't be sorc. The shield nerf is the nail in the coffin. They are too small and too expensive. Maybe just one nerf (cost or size) would have been doable. But not both. It's clearly just shield hate from a stamblade main now working on class balance.
I've got 72 days played on my Magsorc main. It's all I've played basically since I started shortly after Summerset released. As much as I'd like to continue playing my Sorc, I made a Stamplar for next patch. Sorc in general is gonna have it rough next patch if changes stay as is.0 -
Vortigaunt✭✭✭josh.lackey_ESO wrote: »Even hardcore sorcs I know who have play magsorc for 4+ years through thick and then are gearing up to play a stam toons next patch. One is moving to magplar. Haven't figured out what I will do yet, but it won't be sorc. The shield nerf is the nail in the coffin. They are too small and too expensive. Maybe just one nerf (cost or size) would have been doable. But not both. It's clearly just shield hate from a stamblade main now working on class balance.
You don’t get it, it’s all a l2p issue. All these sorcs complaining are just mad they aren’t OP anymore.
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Jodynn✭✭✭✭✭
✭I don't have a problem on live burning shields, I don't get where the hate comes from, that's a l2p issue, a 6k shield is trash and there is no point using it anymore.Jodynn PC NA
PvE and PvP MagDK
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Lucky28✭✭✭✭✭
✭With the changes to shields that made them critable but had them take your resistances into account, they're basically heals that layer over your actual HP bar now. Remind me what heal consistently heals you for 8k+?
Yah. A hefty cost is warranted.
ummm my heal constantly hits for 12K in PvP......... if we're going by your logic gimme my 12K shields.Edited by Lucky28 on July 29, 2019 7:39PMInvictus1
