One hand and shield weapon changes are ridiculous

  • f047ys3v3n
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    frostz417 wrote: »
    SnB damage build were cancer

    This.

    OP, do you really think that having the best defensive weapon choice also be an excellent offensive one was good balance? You really ought to have to give up some burst damage ability to gain the turteling advantages that SnB offered.

    To some extent, ice staff has the same issue (though I of course use it) but the whole ice staff tanking thing is a misbegotten *** child and it's poor conception has lead to problems like this. It might be interesting if resto staff was given a more tanking appeal with the tanking ice passive and the unused siphon spirit ability being made a taunt. I don't think as big of issues would be caused making a heal staff tanky especially given healers are already pretty squishy being basically required to be in light armor for sustain. But defensive weapons should just not be high damage dealing weapons and SnB was this.
    Edited by f047ys3v3n on July 28, 2019 5:01PM
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  • kendellking_chaosb14_ESO
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    Pr0Skygon wrote: »
    Ivan04 wrote: »
    @frostz417 they weren't

    If you think an offensive + defensive hybrid skill line with a cheap spammable that deals tons of damage with strong snare, 100% uptime for minor main and minor heroism is not cancer, then you either are superbly bias, or know nothing about this game; not to mention the instant stunt with major defile.
    I main a stamDK, and even I think S&B build right now is cancer. I had played Fury/7th S&B setup for about 3 months straight, and I can tell you that it felt like I was having some kind of cheat code. I can confidently use any weps, but S&B is by far the most broken wep in PvP right now for certain class setups.

    You say SnB is broken but then you list a set combo that’s over the top so the skill line should be nerf cause two sets are when combo over perform. Am I reading that right?
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  • SilverPaws
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    Aedaryl wrote: »
    SilverPaws wrote: »
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    Skoomah wrote: »
    S&B stronger damage than other weapon skill lines? Ahm... L2P issue IMO.

    Reverse Slice.
    Rending Slashes.
    Cleave.
    Steel Tornado.

    Way more damage.

    S&B is for defensive bar. You range or bleed out the tanky types that run S&B.

    So much dumbing down of the game because people refuse to gain the experience to reach the top of the learning curve...

    You are the only one needing to L2P.

    S&B is the best offensive weapon because it has the only good Stam spammable and because bash weaving makes S&D dealing more damage than everything else. On live you also have a good stun with major defile.

    Competitive Stam players use 2h as a back bar weapon with execute and forward mementum. If you need a bleed then carve is a very strong one.

    Only classes that use snb as offensive weapon are stamdk and stamsorc, because they lack good class spammable. They are forced to run snb in fury-7th setup to be competitive, unfortunately forums are full of biased and clueless people like you.

    You also need to L2P.

    If you want to kill a decent player, every Stam build (exception for Rollerblade) need 1h&S as offensive weapon, because it's the only spammable that can reliably LAND VS decent players, and also because major defile + buffs and Main is a very good carry.

    You don't play at competitive lvl, don't speak about balance.

    You only kill potatoes with dizzy or with spin to win

    S&B offensive is the best set up for facing every situation in 1vX. It kill noobs and compete at high lvl.

    Lmao. You have no idea what you talk about :lol: I don't play on competitive level ? More like you don't play at competitive level.. You are potato what gets farmed and then you must come here on forums to cry and call out for nerfs :smiley:
    Edited by SilverPaws on July 28, 2019 7:15PM
  • Lord_Eomer
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    PVP is currently ruined by S & B,

    ZOS is in right direction to balance S & B, there is nothing wrong.

  • J18696
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    Aedaryl wrote: »
    J18696 wrote: »
    The sword shield changes are ok the only thing I think got over nerfed was reverb bash I honestly don't know who would complain about it's defile. Defiles are nearly useless as is atm instead it's now a spammable cc that reduces it's own dmg when spammed zos logic

    Power bash is a spammable with 2 morpqs.

    One keep it's spammable aspect.

    The other become a stun that deal the live damage of reverb + an other live reverb damage when the stun end.

    You actually need to choose between best Stam weapon spammable or best damage stun.

    If you want the spammable, you got a better Stam fear in warrior skill line.

    From my experience on pts power slam dmg in PvP is meh at best so I still don't see this skill as a viable spammable reverb should of kept it's defile and just had less dmg than power bash how reverb is desgined on pts right now is terrible
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