I’m going to try stam healing, looks like it’ll be fun.

I generally spend all my gold on trying different sets and combinations for pvp, so I like when the game changes. That probably puts me in the minority but I love it.

I think the game’s changing but it’s not the end of the world. People will just have to adapt and give it a week or two and you’ll see builds posted adapting to the changes.

I actually think the changes will help 99% of players. Orbs were annoying to spam and I rarely used Healing springs in dungeons. It’s trial healing that will be totally different and is a big ? with all the changes.

One very annoying thing I find is a year ago in the game everyone’s opinion was warden or Templar healer or gtfo for trials. I did it all as a NB and encouraged others to experiment and try different classes too. Now it looks like the game might be changing to favour Templars and Wardens.

When people choose a main they get attached to it. To have a class go from able to unable only hurts the game. It’s a minority of players running around with multiple 50s, of course you’re going to upset people.

I’ve been saying it for a while - the resto abilities need to be stronger then class abilities - I just hope the current changes cut it.

The problem is hedge healers like myself are going to be kicked out of the pool.

Pro healers might adapt however ppl like me won't be able to compete as a healer.

These Devs just don't understand if you don't/can't/won't do your job on a team they will kick you.

John_Falstaff wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

You need another option: Never join a PuG group and only go with groups of experts, which the healing changes are catered to.

Ironically, group of experts in dungeons/arenas implies... having no healer at all. ^^ Pugs are the ones who need healing the most.

And there, the pain point we've all been asking to have remedied ... and the pain point ZoS seems intent on perpetuating.

Healing in ESO is like no other MMO. I like that sometimes. I like that I am required to be mobile, and active, and always thinking about how to synergize my skills with everyone else's, and how to keep up what everyone else needs to succeed. It puts a huge demand on the role that is very rewarding to fulfill to the best of one's ability. When it's going well, you feel like you are the only thing keeping everyone in the game, and that's awesome.

... But then you come to realize that's only one fight out of every several dozen. You see the score runs with 3DD/1T and see how much faster everything dies, and how little actual healing is required versus basic support that can be filled by other roles. You see the absence of unique buffs/debuffs, the absence of unique utility, the absence of requirement as compared to other roles.

... And then you heal in another current game (WoW/FFXIV) and you're floored, because those games require actual healing. They have consistent outgoing damage that will 10/10 kill your other teammates without your heals. Not mechanics that kill everyone in a single shot because the DPS burn wasn't high enough, but actual prolonged damage phases that cannot be survived without heals. You die to a mechanic, and your group wipes 9/10 times because they cannot sustain the fight without your healing (as opposed to ESO, in which too many times I've been on the floor and watched 2-3 other group members polish off a boss fight alone).

And then, I realize why I never feel quite satisfied with my job here: because I am a bandaid in ESO, not a brain surgeon -- and unlike what is required of surgeons, a bandaid can be applied by literally anyone with two brain cells to rub together. It is disappointing at best.

snarkomatic wrote: »

John_Falstaff wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

You need another option: Never join a PuG group and only go with groups of experts, which the healing changes are catered to.

Ironically, group of experts in dungeons/arenas implies... having no healer at all. ^^ Pugs are the ones who need healing the most.

And there, the pain point we've all been asking to have remedied ... and the pain point ZoS seems intent on perpetuating.

Healing in ESO is like no other MMO. I like that sometimes. I like that I am required to be mobile, and active, and always thinking about how to synergize my skills with everyone else's, and how to keep up what everyone else needs to succeed. It puts a huge demand on the role that is very rewarding to fulfill to the best of one's ability. When it's going well, you feel like you are the only thing keeping everyone in the game, and that's awesome.

... But then you come to realize that's only one fight out of every several dozen. You see the score runs with 3DD/1T and see how much faster everything dies, and how little actual healing is required versus basic support that can be filled by other roles. You see the absence of unique buffs/debuffs, the absence of unique utility, the absence of requirement as compared to other roles.

... And then you heal in another current game (WoW/FFXIV) and you're floored, because those games require actual healing. They have consistent outgoing damage that will 10/10 kill your other teammates without your heals. Not mechanics that kill everyone in a single shot because the DPS burn wasn't high enough, but actual prolonged damage phases that cannot be survived without heals. You die to a mechanic, and your group wipes 9/10 times because they cannot sustain the fight without your healing (as opposed to ESO, in which too many times I've been on the floor and watched 2-3 other group members polish off a boss fight alone).

And then, I realize why I never feel quite satisfied with my job here: because I am a bandaid in ESO, not a brain surgeon -- and unlike what is required of surgeons, a bandaid can be applied by literally anyone with two brain cells to rub together. It is disappointing at best.

DPS can heal themself, tank too.
End.
That why heal in this game is the most akward design I've ever seen in an mmorpg.
As healer, most of the time, you feel useless.
Any good team don't need you.

And that a part of why I enjoy less and less this game..

jecks33 wrote: »

Illustrious Healing will be stackable?

Stackable was taken from the base ability "grand healing". So no it will not.

I was never much of a grand healing spammer to begin with. I've always used Ritual of Rebirth, which is what i assume most magplars will start using.

For me it'll come down to what they end up doing with power surge for sorc healers.
If it allows me to keep up with other healers, I'll probably keep sorc healing.

If not, I'll be continuing in my cores with my warden healer until they can move me to DPS.

Continue to play the game?

Healers are barely getting nerfed...We're fine, some changes are good and stamwarden healer is getting a buff.

DPS should be more concerned with some of the changes.

ccfeeling wrote: »

I will rebuild my Warden healer to stam base , hope it's gonna work

I will still play my NB mag healer ...

There is something I don't understand , I cannot find any PTS trial video especially the HM , why ?

Can someone link it , thank you !

Maybe it’s super top secret. Guilds used to be like that in old school games. Guilds wouldn’t share strategies on bosses because they were open world and the first to kill them could put them on farm.

Changed with WoW. Since everything’s instanced there’s more recognition/bragging rights from posting a video on how to do it.

Might be there is no video, or guild only. Who knows.

The big issue will be the group heal check burn mechanics like the burn phases of vHoF and vCR. These phases were effectively designed for healing springs spam and I don't see them being able to be completed without that as the mechanics are currently laid out.

For most fights that don't have this sort of full on incinerate the group heal check, the healer role has been more about buffs, and synergies and utility roles than healing for a while now so the changes aren't really that big. In some trials some healers don't run healing springs for this reason anyway.

For my part I tend to put the heal first in healer and always slot springs but I don't heal very often these days anyway. I guess I will heal even less? I don't really relish being a human buff bot wearing all the group buff sets comically intended for dps but not strong enough for a dps to actually wear.

In any case, I do think this pushes the meta in 4 person stuff to definitely no healer all the time. Really, it was already no healer most of the time as ZOS triggers almost all mechanics on a timer making more DPS the answer to pretty much all things. Similarly, almost everything that threatens you is a one shot to a dps anyway so a healer actually being able to save a person is a pretty rare event.