Would you participate in an annual 'Purge' -like event?
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Gandrhulf_Harbard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭What? No...No. Because it would be nothing but griefers that suck at PvP so they would use that even to attack players not even trying to PvP.
It would work fine in a PvP game but not PvE based game like ESO.
But it isn't, and has never been a PvE based game. From it's inception the game has been designed for both. This continues to be true today.
37 Zones total, only 1 of which is PvP.
So thew game is 2.7% PvP based on content.
That is 97.3% PvE
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Mik195✭✭✭✭✭
✭What? No...No, but I could go for an open world PVP event. Imagine on December 31, ZOS hosts one of those lottery drawings with the bouncing ball where they pick one date during the year and then they pick one (or maybe two) zones. And on that one day, those zones become PVP and Cyroldill becomes PVE. On the other hand, I'm not sure ZOS could turn PVE into PVP without introducing bugs.1 -
Reistr_the_Unbroken✭✭✭✭✭
✭Oops, didn't mean to click on this thread.IsharaMeradin wrote: »And here I thought you were going to suggest such things as having massive temporary anchors drop in the middle of towns with world boss level (and higher) daedra swarming all over and the player base would have to work together to purge the towns of them.
Alas, that was not the case...
I’d be all over that-2 -
Dojohoda✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭What? No...Too many don't like pvp. I'd suggest that they could do something interesting at Hammerdeath arena.Fan of playing magblade since 2015. (PC NA)
Might be joking in comments.
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SassiestAssassin✭✭✭What? No...Give Uncle Sheo the reins, flip it all around, make it so everyone not involved in a campaign logs in to PvE Cyrodiil. We can play Buggy Horse Simulator and Daedra-slaying in the sewers together while PvP have allllllllll the zones to try and find one another in. You think Cyrodiil was too big and empty? Lol.
Make Battlegrounds dance-offs/costume parties. Dungeons/Trials, PvPvE.
But I am wondering if they won’t introduce a battle-royale type zone at some point. Like how Craglorn is a group PvE zone.Edited by SassiestAssassin on July 25, 2019 7:24PM*slams a gallon of Respecting Support Roles juice on the table* Take a sip, babes.0 -
p00tx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, I must purge!Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »
Give an example. And for every one you give we will respond with a change or development effort solely for pve.cyberjanet wrote: »This whole game is designed around what PvPers want..
Every "skill rebalance" ever.
All The Best
PvEers wanted to be able to RP with their friends on other alliances, so we got "One Tamriel" and all of the weirdness that went along with it.
PvEers wanted to be able to RP as any race in trials and dungeons and didn't like being pigeonholed for the sake of min/maxing, so we got the recent racial changes (which changed nothing and really only made it worse).
PvEers at the very top complained that raiding was too easy and healing was boring. They complained about Healing Springs and wanted it gone. Now here we are.
Please stop scapegoating PvPers. If, as you believe, the game is mostly centered around PvE and the population is overwhelmingly PvEers, then how would the "miniscule" number of PvPers even get heard while "complaining? Which is it? Are they the majority or the minority? They can't be both.
"All the Best"PC/Xbox NA
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Delpi✭✭✭✭✭This already exists. It's called Cyrodill.
"I used to be an adventurer like you. Then I took an arrow in the knee..."4 -
Sevn✭✭✭✭✭
✭What? No...TequilaFire wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »A lot of salty PvE players.
Egos are such fragile things.
Funny, this coming from someone who wants an event to intentionally grief players who want nothing to do with them.
You assume a lot.
This is rich coming from someone who assumes pver's have fragile egos.There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man, true nobility is being superior to your former self
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Numerikuu✭✭✭✭✭
✭What? No...I'd only support a 'purge' if it was the reverse. Aka a peace event in Cyrodiil so PvEr's could actually do the story *** there.5 -
Loves_guars✭✭✭✭✭
✭What? No...Not only I wouldn't play it, also would find it depressive, as it goes against everything I love about this game. A community that helps other players and love to quest in peace.5 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭What? No...No. Because it would be nothing but griefers that suck at PvP so they would use that even to attack players not even trying to PvP.
It would work fine in a PvP game but not PvE based game like ESO.
But it isn't, and has never been a PvE based game. From it's inception the game has been designed for both. This continues to be true today.
So remind us, how many PvE zones was it designed with at inception, and how many PvP zones? How many PvE zones have been added in subsequent DLCs and Chapters, and how many PvP zones?
It may for sensible commercial reasons have been designed to cater for both playstyles, but that is not the same as being based on both playstyles.
Moreover, when it came to an inevitable conflict between the playstyles of the Justice System as originally conceived, remind us which playstyle got dropped from it.2 -
brandonv516✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes, I must purge!Yep for one day turn on "friendly fire" in all areas but also make guards attack you if they witness it.2 -
Sevn✭✭✭✭✭
✭What? No...At 1st my response was I simply wouldn't play that day, as I assure you would a ton of players. Now, I think I'd just dust off my NB's and troll the griefers. Can't corner me in open world and after a few pot shots at you I'm a ghost.
How some of you claim to be Pvper's yet love fighting against potatoes is baffling to me. There would barely be anyone for you all to gank so now you're bored and just waiting for one clueless soul to gank? Have at it.
As long as pver's get a non purge where cyro is completely open and non dangerous to pver's. I assure you, no matter how many Pvper's decide to skip that day, cyro will be pop locked all day. You all may be loud but your numbers are pitiful.There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man, true nobility is being superior to your former self
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UntilValhalla13✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭What? No...On the flip side, you should have every hard mode trials boss attack people in cyrodil. I'm sure that would also go over well.
Taking a keep? Plot twist! Baneful Mark.4 -
Gandrhulf_Harbard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭What? No...Please stop scapegoating PvPers. If, as you believe, the game is mostly centered around PvE and the population is overwhelmingly PvEers, then how would the "miniscule" number of PvPers even get heard while "complaining? Which is it? Are they the majority or the minority? They can't be both.
"All the Best"
https://www.englishclub.com/ref/esl/Collocations/V/vocal_minority_3425.php
There you go.
All The BestThose memories come back to haunt me, they haunt me like a curse.
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JKorr✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭What? No...TequilaFire wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »A lot of salty PvE players.
Egos are such fragile things.
Think you made a typo there.....
Yep, they sure are. All the pvpers who cry because they want pvers to gank. Every "pve Cyrodiil" thread eventually ends up with pvpers admitting they don't want a pve cyrodiil because they would have no one left to gank. Only other players who could give them an actual "fair fight". Which they don't want. [refer to the post about killing the pvers turning in quests at the last event]. Poor pvpers only feel good when they can gank and grief, apparently. And the ardent, passionate pvpers don't understand that some pvers don't really care about getting killed; congrats, you killed me, you da uberest leet evah, now please get out of the way so I can finish this story quest.
I never said I wanted to gank anybody.
And since when are PvE players incapable of defending themselves?
They are not helpless at all.
Good for you no wanting to gank anyone. The idea has, however showed up in this thread and many others.
No, pve players are not helpless. I never said they were. The people who don't want to pvp, who haven't built their characters for pvp, who don't have the gear sets for pvp are not going to be in the best situation of defending themselves, however. Against a pvp player who built their character for pvp, geared their character for pvp, who know chokepoints like doorway loading screens the pver is not going to have the optimum outcome. The pver might win. And then be the recipient of all the wonderful trash talk garbage that follows. Very seldom does someone say "good fight". More like "Last night your Mom".....6 -
Cerotonin✭✭✭What? No...I think they could create another zone accessible similarly to Artaeum, Coldharbour, and Clockwork City for this type of gameplay. Having all of Tarmiel purge would be incredibly chaotic. I have somewhat of an idea:
In that zone:
• Guards and NPCs are killable. Guards are relatively as strong as dungeon bosses. NPCs as strong as Trolls AT LEAST (NPCs are too easy to kill already).
• It doesn’t matter what alliance you’re in. You can’t heal unless you’re grouped with someone. Kill anyone without initiating a duel.
• SAFE spots where you can buy/sell/bank items. Your bars are disabled within these spots. Stepping out from these spots gives you temporary immunity to damage, but you also still can’t attack.
• Tel Var is rewarded with the multiplier resetting if you die and if you enter a safe spot. You only lose 25% of your tel Var as opposed to the 50% in Imperial Sewers.
• Leaderboards changing every hour or so (so that people don’t hog the same spot endlessly), but previous top player history still shows.
• For fun, add an Sheogorath mechanic where he summons NPCs (voted) and NPCs from other timelines (other Elder Scrolls games)and give some kind of reward for killing them.
Honestly the ideas are endless and it would take A LOT of work for this type of idea to be brought forward lol.1 -
Veinblood1965✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I would. I used to love it in DAOC, sneak over to the enemies newby zones and kill kill kill. Then of course they put a stop to it with roaming terminator guards.1 -
Thorvik_Tyrson✭✭✭What? No...redgreensunset wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »A lot of salty PvE players.
Egos are such fragile things.
Lol, the tears of pvp'ers who can't handle the whole world not catering to them and their Most Special Snowflakeness.
Not every one finds PVP to be fun. It's not a matter as you put it of "cant handle", its a matter of choice for doing what you consider to be fun during your entertainment time. Some like PVP some don't. Not everyone is the same. Deal with that. I get a LOL from your term "Most Special Snowflakeness"
I don't expect to be catered to as you imply, I just want to play a PVE game to relax for my entertainment time after a day at work. Given the choice of a PVP server or a PVE server, I choose the PVE server all the time. Most people do. If you look at MMO's that had the option of PVE or PVP all the time, the PVP servers died a long time before the PVE servers do.
Your comment makes me believe that you would be one of the spawn point camper/gankers if given the choice. Seriously. How does your comment positively add to the discussion? I don't think that it does. I see it more as baiting other players to respond to you with your use of "Most Special Snowflakeness". (Once again, LOL)
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Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭What? No...Thorvik_Tyrson wrote: »redgreensunset wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »A lot of salty PvE players.
Egos are such fragile things.
Lol, the tears of pvp'ers who can't handle the whole world not catering to them and their Most Special Snowflakeness.
Not every one finds PVP to be fun. It's not a matter as you put it of "cant handle", its a matter of choice for doing what you consider to be fun during your entertainment time. Some like PVP some don't. Not everyone is the same. Deal with that. I get a LOL from your term "Most Special Snowflakeness"
I don't expect to be catered to as you imply, I just want to play a PVE game to relax for my entertainment time after a day at work. Given the choice of a PVP server or a PVE server, I choose the PVE server all the time. Most people do. If you look at MMO's that had the option of PVE or PVP all the time, the PVP servers died a long time before the PVE servers do.
Your comment makes me believe that you would be one of the spawn point camper/gankers if given the choice. Seriously. How does your comment positively add to the discussion? I don't think that it does. I see it more as baiting other players to respond to you with your use of "Most Special Snowflakeness". (Once again, LOL)
Thorvik
You might want to re-read the post you're replying to.1 -
Mitrenga✭✭✭✭✭Yes, I must purge!It would be great fun! I remember when Britain was open to the Player Killers (PKs) during some Ultima Online events. It was a total cluster****. I can't imagine the lag in Rawl and Rimmen though...0 -
disintegr8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭What? No...Like others have said, I wouldn't logon that day.Australian on PS4 NA server.
Everyone's entitled to an opinion.0 -
Thorvik_Tyrson✭✭✭What? No...Thorvik_Tyrson wrote: »redgreensunset wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »A lot of salty PvE players.
Egos are such fragile things.
Lol, the tears of pvp'ers who can't handle the whole world not catering to them and their Most Special Snowflakeness.
Not every one finds PVP to be fun. It's not a matter as you put it of "cant handle", its a matter of choice for doing what you consider to be fun during your entertainment time. Some like PVP some don't. Not everyone is the same. Deal with that. I get a LOL from your term "Most Special Snowflakeness"
I don't expect to be catered to as you imply, I just want to play a PVE game to relax for my entertainment time after a day at work. Given the choice of a PVP server or a PVE server, I choose the PVE server all the time. Most people do. If you look at MMO's that had the option of PVE or PVP all the time, the PVP servers died a long time before the PVE servers do.
Your comment makes me believe that you would be one of the spawn point camper/gankers if given the choice. Seriously. How does your comment positively add to the discussion? I don't think that it does. I see it more as baiting other players to respond to you with your use of "Most Special Snowflakeness". (Once again, LOL)
Thorvik
You might want to re-read the post you're replying to.
Yep, I missread pvp as pve. but my point still stands that I viewed the post as baiting and not positively contributing to the discussion.1 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭What? No...TequilaFire wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »A lot of salty PvE players.
Egos are such fragile things.
Funny, this coming from someone who wants an event to intentionally grief players who want nothing to do with them.
You assume a lot.
This is rich coming from someone who assumes pver's have fragile egos.
Yet I am the one who pointed out that PvE players can defend themselves, but they keep claiming they can't.
But many players do have a problem with a human killing them as opposed to AI.1 -
MisterBigglesworth✭✭✭✭✭
✭Oops, didn't mean to click on this thread.How about a small zone dedicated to Guild vs. Guild PvP custom game types?Really we do it without like, the musical instruments. This is the only musical: the mouth. And hopefully the brain attached to the mouth. Right? The brain, more important than the mouth, is the brain. The brain is much more important.1 -
Thorvik_Tyrson✭✭✭What? No...MisterBigglesworth wrote: »How about a small zone dedicated to Guild vs. Guild PvP custom game types?
Guild vs Guild PVP is a good concept in theory, but when you try to actually implement it, the timezones and when players are available becomes an Issue. It's like looking for a raiding guild, but you need to find twice as many players in order to make it work.
I played Skyforge for several months. They got into doing Pantheon wars, and several of them were no contest battles as they occured during a time that one of the teams was either asleep, or at work, and therefor not online to participate.0 -
BigBragg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Yes, I must purge!Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »No. Because it would be nothing but griefers that suck at PvP so they would use that even to attack players not even trying to PvP.
It would work fine in a PvP game but not PvE based game like ESO.
But it isn't, and has never been a PvE based game. From it's inception the game has been designed for both. This continues to be true today.
37 Zones total, only 1 of which is PvP.
So thew game is 2.7% PvP based on content.
That is 97.3% PvE
All The BestNo. Because it would be nothing but griefers that suck at PvP so they would use that even to attack players not even trying to PvP.
It would work fine in a PvP game but not PvE based game like ESO.
But it isn't, and has never been a PvE based game. From it's inception the game has been designed for both. This continues to be true today.
So remind us, how many PvE zones was it designed with at inception, and how many PvP zones? How many PvE zones have been added in subsequent DLCs and Chapters, and how many PvP zones?
It may for sensible commercial reasons have been designed to cater for both playstyles, but that is not the same as being based on both playstyles.
Moreover, when it came to an inevitable conflict between the playstyles of the Justice System as originally conceived, remind us which playstyle got dropped from it.
Cyrodiil by far has received and continues to recieve more updates than any other map in the entire game.
The next closest would be a PvPvE map, called Imperial City.
PvP doesn't depend on new maps. That is measuring PvP by a standard that is only healthy for PvE.
PvP is player driven content, not learn the dragon tango content. PvP needs things to keep in from stagnating and good performance. Balance is even a bit of a relative misnomer in the discussion. It needs to have an influence, but is constantly a moving target in PvP. Players are always adapting to what we encounter and finding new ways to handle those challenges.
Both the games story and initial development swirl around the Three Banners Wars with Cyrodiil being at the center of that. This is why Matt Firor was brought over from Dark Ages of Camelot another game that catered to both crowds.
I just think a one day event, like this to change the dynamic and scenery would be a whole lot of fun. Again, reiterating that some measure was in place to prevent spawn camping. This is not to go and look for easy kills, not even something I do in Cyrodiil. Popping somebody just questing is boring. I like good fights. Some of the best ones I have ever been in have also been ones that I lost. The challenge and intensity that can only come from matching up against another human is a blast to me.
Foot Note: I am not saying one is better than the other, but that both are important parts of this game. Something I appreciate, even if I do consider myself more of a PvP player. I still complete a large volume of PvE content, including listening to the story in every quest in the game, most of the dungeons and trials, and love exploring to find the little touches the world builders put in.
Edited by BigBragg on July 25, 2019 10:18PM1
