I think "really really ruined my ESO experience" is a tad hyperbolic, not being able to easily kill and loot an open world boss may be somewhat annoying but to say what you said, really ...

Just read the umpteen threads round here and you'll see nothing's being done., ZOS have said they're merely "looking into it", they've also said that boss farming is a valid playstyle and only 'bad' when it's botted .. but then they've done nothing so far to deal with the bots.

Having some folks camp the final bosses in public dungeons has ruined your experience?

Tad dramatic, no?

It's less the actual experience of that particular dungeon (although I've personally logged off twice in those situations as it ruined the experience when it took 3 spawns of the boss to even register a hit to complete the dungeon, let alone get a chance at looting it) than it speaks volumes about what ZoS stands (or doesn't stand) for, that this is an acceptable playstyle - camping a single dungeon boss, preventing other players from getting a fair shake at it, flooding the market with boss drop items or the deconstructed gains from them.

Its yet another case of ZoS having no clue about the difference between a single player game and an MMO that NEEDS to keep players paying month after month. "Play as you want" should not include 'and everyone else can go screw themselves'. If these players just want zero effort xp, make the training dummies and targets give xp for them and get them out of the dungeons so the rest of us can enjoy it.

Or, simply, turn the dungeons into instances as they should have been all along instead of the farce they are at the moment.

If your entire matter of "will i stay or not" is being decided by bots farming open bosses, then you are either very picky or you are no fan of this game.

Like people have stated above: there are way worse things going on. Bots mining nodes while underground, the bank bug, people not bein able to log in, disconnects in Cyrodiil, people not being able to set up a subscription for their 30 free days...do i need to go on?

At least you can play. At least you can still get your boss kill if you tag him, even though it's getting farmed. Other people can't even log in.
So if you are one of those people who get on a hissyfit about something that isn't even that gamebreaking, then good riddance.

This isn't directed to the OP, this is directed to everyone complaining about this case in general.

I don't get it. There seems to be an all-out attack on this game by bots and gold sellers.
It's far worse than I've seen in any other game in recent years. I wonder why?

Censorious wrote: »

I don't get it. There seems to be an all-out attack on this game by bots and gold sellers.
It's far worse than I've seen in any other game in recent years. I wonder why?

I would almost guarantee that word has gotten out that the game is a buggy mess and therefor squashing bots will be low on the list of things to address. It's like looting during riots. Police are too busy making sure people aren't dying to bust people for stealing flat screens.

Milanna wrote: »

There is a lot of "your opinion is wrong, because I say so" going on at these forums. How about we try to accept that some people play the game for achievements and loot, and some play the game for the adventure of it?

Neither way is wrong, they are just different.

What we need to do however, is to respect the differences.

If you run through this game looking to level as fast as possible to get to the endgame content, I get that bots and boss camping are not a major issue. You get past it, onwards.
But if you want immersion, experience the world and the adventure you are on, these things can be quite problematic. (As many people has explained on this topic before).

So, instead of saying: "OP, overly dramatic much?" Accept that his/her experience is not necessarily the same as yours.

Play nice, kids

I agree wholeheartedly about respecting the playstyle and opinions of other people, but there comes a point when we have to draw a line.

Having to spend a couple minutes trying to get credit on a boss kill because people are camping it is NOT gamebreaking nor worthy of crying 'my experience has been ruined'.

We ALL have to deal with these campers, but the vast majority realize that it's a relatively small inconvenience and nothing more. No, it does not merit a 'my experience has been ruined' thread.

Jmundi wrote: »

SootyTX wrote: »

If these players just want zero effort xp, make the training dummies and targets give xp for them and get them out of the dungeons so the rest of us can enjoy it.

Or, simply, turn the dungeons into instances as they should have been all along instead of the farce they are at the moment.

Lol, best idea ever with the dummies You want to grind your way to max level, go and hit the dummy for 2 weeks and clear the zones of your annoying presence

It would make it easy to find the bots to ban lol. Just have a GM to sit there and randomly ask the player if they would like a couple of free gold. If they don't answer, ban hammer.

gharms wrote: »

What I don't get is the boss loot, for the most part, is terrible compared to self made gear of the same level. Unless you're farming soul gems, most of the time, killing the boss is a useless exercise outide of clearing the dungeon.

They do it for the greens and blue drops and then break it down to sell for gold no doubts. They prolly use the bosses to gain XP so they can farm higher areas or for power-levelling some how.

Boss and lightning fast resource farmers (bots?) everywhere!!!

Alphashado wrote: »

Amazing how many people don't know the difference between a bot and a player farming gear. This forum is completely overrun with ignorance and uninformed. It does not help the developers one bit if you don't know what you are talking about when complaining about an issue.

If you want to complain about PEOPLE sitting at their keyboard farming bosses, then so be it. If you want to complain about PROGRAMMED animated toons with auto attack on while aimed at a boss spawn, then so be it. But please learn how to tell the difference before you report it.

There is a HUGE difference.

Emm, player standing for hour or more next to boss spawn and killing it is actually botting. It doesn't matter if it is done by external program/macros etc or just by player. That's how I see it and it doesn't matter how you do it. If people stand there for more (5+) consecutive respawns and noone responds to my request to let me get a chance to kill, I accept they all are bots and I report them.

Brockxz wrote: »

and noone responds to my request to let me get a chance to kill

Newbie tip (im a newbie lol): Use instant combat skill in situations like this and move on. It is possible in 95%.

Brockxz wrote: »

Alphashado wrote: »

Amazing how many people don't know the difference between a bot and a player farming gear. This forum is completely overrun with ignorance and uninformed. It does not help the developers one bit if you don't know what you are talking about when complaining about an issue.

If you want to complain about PEOPLE sitting at their keyboard farming bosses, then so be it. If you want to complain about PROGRAMMED animated toons with auto attack on while aimed at a boss spawn, then so be it. But please learn how to tell the difference before you report it.

There is a HUGE difference.

Emm, player standing for hour or more next to boss spawn and killing it is actually botting. It doesn't matter if it is done by external program/macros etc or just by player. That's how I see it and it doesn't matter how you do it. If people stand there for more (5+) consecutive respawns and noone responds to my request to let me get a chance to kill, I accept they all are bots and I report them.

I'm not trying to start an argument, but if a player is sitting there killing the enemy themselves, then that is not botting, any way you look at it.

You can choose to see it as botting, but it's not even close and you should be punished for abusing the report system.

By the very definition, that is not botting.

In fact, your abuse of the report system is more likely to get you banned, than other players who decide to farm a boss. And it would be well deserved.

Brockxz wrote: »

Bob wrote: »

Newbie tip (im a newbie lol): Use instant combat skill in situations like this and move on. It is possible in 95%.

Yes, I know that. I even sometimes calculate the respawn time and pop up my ultimate at boss spawn point just to get completion credit and I can move on. Most of the time I even get credit for not getting a hit at boss at all but by using funnel health ability on nearby trash mobs and it links to some of those bots who kill boss. The problem is not getting credit for me I just don't like farmers/bots (call it whatever you want) and I don't like getting achievements and other completion status for actually not doing something. Game must be rewarding and rewards must be actually meaningful and not just because you got some lucky hit.

I use Critical Rush. I get credit every kill.

shadyjane62 wrote: »

We stopped doing quests, too buggy, stopped doing dungeons too many bots, stopped doing crafting, the banks are unreliable and the nodes disappear too fast to get the items, the loot is too small and worthless for us to accumulate much. The guilds are untrustworthy and now players so afraid of joining conversations you can't make friends. You can't even make a whisper as it takes 3 minutes to arrive. Hard to keep a clear track of any chat since they make pictures with bits and bytes and fill the entire chat window.

So any suggestions as to what my husband can actually do in game? So many things here but unable to do any of them. Have been through many launches, this by far the worst.

Can you elaborate on why you completely stopped questing due to bugs?

I know that my experience is not the same as everybody else's, but I am now level 43 and I have encountered only a single quest that was rendered unable to be completed due to a bug. I've completed nearly 300 other quests.