The answer seems as obvious as it is meaningless.
First of all, the obvious part. If a player is willing to buy it when it is limited time only then they would it if it was not limited time. Your poll fails to try to address that which is why the results are meaningless.
No getting into anything personal with the OP.
redspecter23 wrote: »It doesn't matter what I would do. It only matters that ZOS is fully aware that limited time offers push this little button inside our heads that says "that thing is timed and exclusive. I need to have it." Take away that timed exclusive nature and sales actually go down on items like that. ZOS knows this and markets things to us accordingly.
The smartest people working in the company are in the marketing department for good reason.
I'm honestly not sure about that. I've always held the opinion that limiting the pool of purchasable items hurts their sales more than it helps. And here is why.redspecter23 wrote: »The smartest people working in the company are in the marketing department for good reason.
The answer seems as obvious as it is meaningless.
First of all, the obvious part. If a player is willing to buy it when it is limited time only then they would it if it was not limited time. Your poll fails to try to address that which is why the results are meaningless.
Unfortunately not quite, a bit off the mark here, and that very thing is addressed in the 2nd option of the Poll.
Do you find value in the actual item itself, or are you attracted by the Exclusivity & "Rareness" of the item. I know people in my guild who likes certain things SPECIFICALLY because they are rare & not owned by many. That "Rareness" value obviously would be non existent if it was easily available at all times, and influences decisions.
So no, not everyone who has purchased it during Limited circumstances guarantees they would purchase it during any circumstance. That's kind of the entire focus of the poll.
No getting into anything personal with the OP.
Ofc not, discussion is always welcome.
He isn't assuming that. His poll directly proves he isn't His first poll option is that 'I would still buy the limited time houses even if they weren't limited time.' And the other option is 'I wouldn't buy limited time items if they were common because I only want them if they are rare'.You are making a false assumption that people who buy limited time houses would only buy them because they are limited time. As a result the poll is meaningless even on the terms of entertainment value and that does not even get into how the entire thing is clearly designed to be biased. My comments were very accurate, including the part you edited out.The answer seems as obvious as it is meaningless.
First of all, the obvious part. If a player is willing to buy it when it is limited time only then they would it if it was not limited time. Your poll fails to try to address that which is why the results are meaningless.
Unfortunately not quite, a bit off the mark here, and that very thing is addressed in the 2nd option of the Poll.
Do you find value in the actual item itself, or are you attracted by the Exclusivity & "Rareness" of the item. I know people in my guild who likes certain things SPECIFICALLY because they are rare & not owned by many. That "Rareness" value obviously would be non existent if it was easily available at all times, and influences decisions.
So no, not everyone who has purchased it during Limited circumstances guarantees they would purchase it during any circumstance. That's kind of the entire focus of the poll.
No getting into anything personal with the OP.
Ofc not, discussion is always welcome.
The answer seems as obvious as it is meaningless.
First of all, the obvious part. If a player is willing to buy it when it is limited time only then they would it if it was not limited time. Your poll fails to try to address that which is why the results are meaningless.
Unfortunately not quite, a bit off the mark here, and that very thing is addressed in the 2nd option of the Poll.
Do you find value in the actual item itself, or are you attracted by the Exclusivity & "Rareness" of the item. I know people in my guild who likes certain things SPECIFICALLY because they are rare & not owned by many. That "Rareness" value obviously would be non existent if it was easily available at all times, and influences decisions.
So no, not everyone who has purchased it during Limited circumstances guarantees they would purchase it during any circumstance. That's kind of the entire focus of the poll.
No getting into anything personal with the OP.
Ofc not, discussion is always welcome.
You are making a false assumption that people who buy limited time houses would only buy them because they are limited time. As a result the poll is meaningless even on the terms of entertainment value and that does not even get into how the entire thing is clearly designed to be biased.
My comments were very accurate, including the part you edited out.
He isn't assuming that. His poll directly proves he isn't His first poll option is that 'I would still buy the limited time houses even if they weren't limited time.' And the other option is 'I wouldn't buy limited time items if they were common because I only want them if they are rare'.You are making a false assumption that people who buy limited time houses would only buy them because they are limited time. As a result the poll is meaningless even on the terms of entertainment value and that does not even get into how the entire thing is clearly designed to be biased. My comments were very accurate, including the part you edited out.The answer seems as obvious as it is meaningless.
First of all, the obvious part. If a player is willing to buy it when it is limited time only then they would it if it was not limited time. Your poll fails to try to address that which is why the results are meaningless.
Unfortunately not quite, a bit off the mark here, and that very thing is addressed in the 2nd option of the Poll.
Do you find value in the actual item itself, or are you attracted by the Exclusivity & "Rareness" of the item. I know people in my guild who likes certain things SPECIFICALLY because they are rare & not owned by many. That "Rareness" value obviously would be non existent if it was easily available at all times, and influences decisions.
So no, not everyone who has purchased it during Limited circumstances guarantees they would purchase it during any circumstance. That's kind of the entire focus of the poll.
No getting into anything personal with the OP.
Ofc not, discussion is always welcome.
So you misunderstood the point of the post. He's trying to find out whether there is a group of people who only buy the limited time offers because they're limited time, as opposed to people who would buy them whether or not they are limited. And your initial claim was indeed incorrect because 'If a player is willing to buy it when it is limited time only, then they would it if it was not limited time' is not a certainty. As evidenced by the guy who voted that he does care about the exclusivity of the items so much that he wouldn't buy the items if they were common. And that's what the poll is about.
Yes, we know. It isn't supposed to capure everyone who purchases a limited time home! If the second reply captured all people who buy LTOs, what would the first reply be - people who don't buy LTOs? No! Lol. The first reply is people who buy or would buy LTOs happily if they were available at all times, and the second reply is people who wouldn't buy LTOs if they weren't limited. Read the poll title and the replies again please, it's obvious what OP means, and everybody else seems to have no problem understanding it.First off the second reply, that someone would only buy the home as a limited time option does not capture everyone who purchases a limited time home.He isn't assuming that. His poll directly proves he isn't His first poll option is that 'I would still buy the limited time houses even if they weren't limited time.' And the other option is 'I wouldn't buy limited time items if they were common because I only want them if they are rare'.You are making a false assumption that people who buy limited time houses would only buy them because they are limited time. As a result the poll is meaningless even on the terms of entertainment value and that does not even get into how the entire thing is clearly designed to be biased. My comments were very accurate, including the part you edited out.The answer seems as obvious as it is meaningless.
First of all, the obvious part. If a player is willing to buy it when it is limited time only then they would it if it was not limited time. Your poll fails to try to address that which is why the results are meaningless.
Unfortunately not quite, a bit off the mark here, and that very thing is addressed in the 2nd option of the Poll.
Do you find value in the actual item itself, or are you attracted by the Exclusivity & "Rareness" of the item. I know people in my guild who likes certain things SPECIFICALLY because they are rare & not owned by many. That "Rareness" value obviously would be non existent if it was easily available at all times, and influences decisions.
So no, not everyone who has purchased it during Limited circumstances guarantees they would purchase it during any circumstance. That's kind of the entire focus of the poll.
No getting into anything personal with the OP.
Ofc not, discussion is always welcome.
So you misunderstood the point of the post. He's trying to find out whether there is a group of people who only buy the limited time offers because they're limited time, as opposed to people who would buy them whether or not they are limited. And your initial claim was indeed incorrect because 'If a player is willing to buy it when it is limited time only, then they would it if it was not limited time' is not a certainty. As evidenced by the guy who voted that he does care about the exclusivity of the items so much that he wouldn't buy the items if they were common. And that's what the poll is about.
We already explained to you that people who actually purchase the limited time homes are in the poll, they are the first reply Yes I purchase limited time homes and I would still purchase them even if they were available at all times. First reply, boom, there I go. Would I purchase the Azura furniture pack if it was available at all times? Yes, because I like it; first reply there I go. People who actually purchase the limited time homes but wouldn't buy them if they were just in the store at all times are also represented, they are reply number two. And that's the only difference that the poll seeks to find out.More so, those that actually purchase the limited time homes could care less about a pointless poll. Considering the limited interest shown during the first 24 hours it does not seem many are concerned. That is even with my posts and replies only concerning my posts making up more than 2/3s of this thread.
That's the most important in your opinion, but it isn't what this poll is about. You could find out in a different poll likeSecond, and most important is it does not even attempt to capture the most important information and that is how many crown packs are sold at full price due to the limited time availability.
First off the second reply, that someone would only buy the home as a limited time option does not capture everyone who purchases a limited time home.
More so, those that actually purchase the limited time homes could care less about a pointless poll. .
Considering the limited interest shown during the first 24 hours it does not seem many are concerned.
Yes, we know. It isn't supposed to capure everyone who purchases a limited time home! If the second reply captured all people who buy LTOs, what would the first reply be - people who don't buy LTOs? No! Lol. The first reply is people who buy or would buy LTOs happily if they were available at all times, and the second reply is people who wouldn't buy LTOs if they weren't limited. Read the poll title and the replies again please, it's obvious what OP means, and everybody else seems to have no problem understanding it.First off the second reply, that someone would only buy the home as a limited time option does not capture everyone who purchases a limited time home.He isn't assuming that. His poll directly proves he isn't His first poll option is that 'I would still buy the limited time houses even if they weren't limited time.' And the other option is 'I wouldn't buy limited time items if they were common because I only want them if they are rare'.You are making a false assumption that people who buy limited time houses would only buy them because they are limited time. As a result the poll is meaningless even on the terms of entertainment value and that does not even get into how the entire thing is clearly designed to be biased. My comments were very accurate, including the part you edited out.The answer seems as obvious as it is meaningless.
First of all, the obvious part. If a player is willing to buy it when it is limited time only then they would it if it was not limited time. Your poll fails to try to address that which is why the results are meaningless.
Unfortunately not quite, a bit off the mark here, and that very thing is addressed in the 2nd option of the Poll.
Do you find value in the actual item itself, or are you attracted by the Exclusivity & "Rareness" of the item. I know people in my guild who likes certain things SPECIFICALLY because they are rare & not owned by many. That "Rareness" value obviously would be non existent if it was easily available at all times, and influences decisions.
So no, not everyone who has purchased it during Limited circumstances guarantees they would purchase it during any circumstance. That's kind of the entire focus of the poll.
No getting into anything personal with the OP.
Ofc not, discussion is always welcome.
So you misunderstood the point of the post. He's trying to find out whether there is a group of people who only buy the limited time offers because they're limited time, as opposed to people who would buy them whether or not they are limited. And your initial claim was indeed incorrect because 'If a player is willing to buy it when it is limited time only, then they would it if it was not limited time' is not a certainty. As evidenced by the guy who voted that he does care about the exclusivity of the items so much that he wouldn't buy the items if they were common. And that's what the poll is about.We already explained to you that people who actually purchase the limited time homes are in the poll, they are the first reply Yes I purchase limited time homes and I would still purchase them even if they were available at all times. First reply, boom, there I go. Would I purchase the Azura furniture pack if it was available at all times? Yes, because I like it; first reply there I go. People who actually purchase the limited time homes but wouldn't buy them if they were just in the store at all times are also represented, they are reply number two. And that's the only difference that the poll seeks to find out.More so, those that actually purchase the limited time homes could care less about a pointless poll. Considering the limited interest shown during the first 24 hours it does not seem many are concerned. That is even with my posts and replies only concerning my posts making up more than 2/3s of this thread.
Second, just because you don't understand the poll, doesn't mean that the poll is somehow irrelevant. Welcome to the housing forum by the way, you must be new, getting 24 votes and several comments in one day is quite good considering how little activity there is on this subforum (feel free to look at the counters next to the other housing threads). And perhaps if you didn't continuously insist that you are right - even after people repeatedly explain the poll to you and even though everybody else has no issues with comprehending the question - then the thread wouldn't be clogged up with your replies .That's the most important in your opinion, but it isn't what this poll is about. You could find out in a different poll likeSecond, and most important is it does not even attempt to capture the most important information and that is how many crown packs are sold at full price due to the limited time availability.
'If you see a limited time offer that you want but have no crowns, you...
a) ... buy crown packs at full price immediately, I don't want to miss out!
b) ... become sad because I can't just spend 100 bucks on crown packs out of the blue so I miss out on the limited time offer even though I would have bought the item if it was available when I get my paycheck
c) ... I buy crown packs every month for items I like whether they are limited or not
d) ... I only buy crowns during crown sales, and I buy them in bulk so I don't run out, therefore limited time offers have no impact on my crownpack purchases'
You can find out about people's crown purchasing habits in a different poll. This poll is about finding out 'how many LTOs are sold due to being limited time' vs 'how many LTOs are sold despite being limited time and how many LTOs would be sold if they weren't limited time'. And just as a side note, people buying crown packs at full price is not mutually exclusive with items being available in the store for longer. If they add some Khajiit racial costumes to the Crown Store, even if they stay there permanently, I'm going to purchase them when Elsweyr comes out and I'm leveling my new Khajiit character, not six months later when they do a crown sale.
No, a forum poll doesn't have to be a multifactorial analysis that can be presented to ZOS shareholders, in order to be valid. OP's poll is perfectly justified in its existence and it addresses the specific topic that it seeks to ask about (how many buyers would prefer LTOs to remain limited time vs how many would want them to be more commonly available).1. You still seem to miss the weakness of the poll by design. You even fail to notice there is no option for some critical points that would be required for the poll to have even the slightest meaning
2. You have not even tried to explain the extremely light interest in this poll and thread and you still have not unless you are saying this issue is not important to most forum goers. 25 votes in a period of a day is extremely light. Heck, the threads seems it would have died out if it was not for almost half the posts either from me or directly concerning me. You are welcome for keeping this thread bumped.
3. Without addressing that the poll has no value beyond mild entertainment. Zos certainly would not give the results of the poll a second thought because they have the more important and statistically significant information.3.
Edit: But digress. I do not see any merit to replying in this thread again so I wish all of you a good day.
I wonder if limited time offers have something to do with game performance. Imagine if everything that was ever offered on the crown store is always available. That's a lot of data. :Shrug:
redlink1979 wrote: »Just a matter of personal taste. I don't like the majority of things I've seen so far as "limited time" items
I wonder if limited time offers have something to do with game performance. Imagine if everything that was ever offered on the crown store is always available. That's a lot of data. :Shrug:
Granted, I'm not a Developer, but I'd be surprised. Afterall, all of the Limited Time Homes can be visited at any time, even if you don't own the homes, you can goto the Map, find them and preview them. So in a sense they are already in the game, just without the Purchasing Interface.
But again, don't take that as certainty, I'm not really sure on this. Interesting point!
I wonder if limited time offers have something to do with game performance. Imagine if everything that was ever offered on the crown store is always available. That's a lot of data. :Shrug:
Granted, I'm not a Developer, but I'd be surprised. Afterall, all of the Limited Time Homes can be visited at any time, even if you don't own the homes, you can goto the Map, find them and preview them. So in a sense they are already in the game, just without the Purchasing Interface.
But again, don't take that as certainty, I'm not really sure on this. Interesting point!
Yeah, but presumably that is just the viewing instance(s) of them?
As opposed to multiple, individual, instances full of multiple people's individual furnishing schemes.