Sorc working as intended

MalcolM24 · July 2019

Small overview of the current bugs for the magsorc:

Shield bug:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmpbMmr51fw
The shield isn't being applied, even though the skill is being spammed. Very noticeable in this clip, where it happens a couple times in a row. It's not an uncommon bug either.

Streak bug:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkqQa36inBE
When streaking 'through' someone who is behind los (for example behind a tree or on top of the keep you're streaking in, you root yourself in place for a few seconds. Very similar to the original streakbug from 2017, but you don't 'slide' to the location the streak ends in.

Crystal fragment bug:
On occasion your character will cast another (hardcasted) fragment after using a procced fragment. Might have something to do with spamming the skill *before* the first fragment finally casts.

Overload bug:
When using overload there's a small chance you get a bug where you cannot use light attacks for a while.

I haven't bothered looking through the recordings of my streams to get a clip with the last 2 bugs, but if anyone else has proof of it feel free to post it and I'll edit this post. These are ofcourse not the only bugs for sorcerer, but they are the most annoying ones in my opinion.

Icarus42 · July 2019

The streak bug is the most annoying imo. I have posted it in the bug section of the forums with no response. Runner up is the overload locking you out of light attacking that has gotten me in trouble numerous times. Have not experienced the shield bug however.

Icarus42 · July 2019

The crystal frag bug happens a lot in lag where it looks like frag is procced but its really not so you end up hard casting it instead.

NordSwordnBoard · July 2019

Streak bug leaving you exposed when you should be re-positioned is especially annoying.

olsborg · July 2019

The streak bug might look most annoying at first, but the shieldbug actually gets you killed far more frequently then anything else.

Galarthor · July 2019

The shield bug is so annoying and it is happening increasingly often as of late on live. I was hoping ZOS would fix it with this update, b/c it is pretty much the worst bug that can happen to a sorc. Imagine roll dodge not working for several seconds in a row after you press the key - or your block and heal for that matter.

Same goes for the streak bug #2. While usually less deadly, it is also very annoying.

Can't wait for the first nerf-sorcs forum warrior to come here saying "bla bla bla shield stacking bla bla bla", not noticing he has only 1 shield slotted

Giljabrar · July 2019

Shield bug has been *** me over a lot lol. The streak bug has also been annoying, but I agree that the shield bug is the biggest issue killing us this patch. Hopefully this gets addressed.

MalcolM24 · July 2019

olsborg wrote: »

The streak bug might look most annoying at first, but the shieldbug actually gets you killed far more frequently then anything else.

True, when you have a streakbug you still teleport forth and back from the enemies pov, making it hard to hit you, and aoes cast on your original position (the one you seem to be standing in for the entire duration) will miss. Plus you can atleast still cast defensive skills. Streakbugs only kill me when there's alot of ppls chasing, shieldbugs kill me in any situation.

Stibbons · July 2019

Sorcs are balanced now with templars

ItsNotLiving · July 2019

Stibbons wrote: »

Sorcs are balanced now with templars

Sorc And Templar both got ZoS’d

TheYKcid · July 2019

Thanks for highlighting these issues and providing hard video evidence, too.

ZOS is aggressively pushing Sorcs to rely more heavily on Streak next patch, both offensively and defensively. Yet the skill is much buggier than it has been for a couple of years.

IMO it's rather irresponsible to make players use a mechanic that you, as a dev, can't guarantee the proper function of.

Mayrael · July 2019

Welcome to the club. Sincerely yours, magblades.

Vortigaunt · July 2019

The frag bug is what pisses me off the most. It happens so often I don’t even anymore, and it’s especially awful against a bash spamming snb monkey, cause that means free cc

Galarthor · July 2019

Mayrael wrote: »

Welcome to the club. Sincerely yours, magblades.

It's not very polite of you, to only welcome us after we have been members for ages ...

React · July 2019

Every patch more and more bugs are introduced, the performance further degrades, and the overall quality of PVP gets worse. It's been like this for several years now, and at this point ZOS can't fix it all.

The bugs in this thread won't get fixed before live. You'll be blessed to even get an actual developer comment on this - apart from "we have deleted several comments..." if the discussion gets out of hand. Sad truth is ZOS has written off PVP and probably isn't going to invest any resources into it until they HAVE TO - that'll be the patch that breaks siege and large group PvP.

MalcolM24 · July 2019

Liam12548 wrote: »

Every patch more and more bugs are introduced, the performance further degrades, and the overall quality of PVP gets worse. It's been like this for several years now, and at this point ZOS can't fix it all.

The bugs in this thread won't get fixed before live. You'll be blessed to even get an actual developer comment on this - apart from "we have deleted several comments..." if the discussion gets out of hand. Sad truth is ZOS has written off PVP and probably isn't going to invest any resources into it until they HAVE TO - that'll be the patch that breaks siege and large group PvP.

at least I can make memes about it right. Though it would be sad if they end up writing on the live patchnotes that they made streak unblockable and it's still blockable x)

olsborg · July 2019

Its getting quite ridiculous at this point. I mostly enjoy pvping on either nb or sorc, both have been plagued by gamebreaking bugs for years now, shade bug was introduced in 2016 sometime, then fixed then broken again and its been broken since. Shieldbug was introduced some months ago, then they atempted to fix it, but they only fixed the animation, but the shield is still not applying. Then they broke Undo shortly after release of the skill and it has been broken since. Streakbug has been broken and fixed and broken multiple times beyond what i can care to count. Get a grip ZOS and start paying attention. One thing is leaving cyrodiil such a laggy mess, youve basicly told us you cant fix it (in this lifetime) but leaving these gamebreaking bugs in the game for months and years is below even you.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

ProzTh3Almighty · July 2019

Blah blah blah shield stacking blah blah blah

Baphomet · July 2019

Shields not applying when activated is already a thing on live.

Harness magicka also suffers from this bug where you have to press it 4-5 times before it executes.

This is particularly true in combat, and it isn’t the same thing as the sluggish respons you sometimes get from abilities during lag.

There is something up with shields.

Vahrokh · July 2019

Shield not going up is currently a bug on live (too) and since several months.

This is especially visible in hm vMOL when you have to timely and quickly re-shield during meteors kiting.

Despite standing still as a kiter in hm vMOL is one of the most suicidal ideas ever, sometimes I must stop (during a kite!) until the shield icon even unlocks (it "hangs") and retry until the shield comes up. I mean "comes up" for real.

Ping time: from 53 to 150ms.

Anyron · July 2019

TheYKcid wrote: »

Thanks for highlighting these issues and providing hard video evidence, too.

ZOS is aggressively pushing Sorcs to rely more heavily on Streak next patch, both offensively and defensively. Yet the skill is much buggier than it has been for a couple of years.

IMO it's rather irresponsible to make players use a mechanic that you, as a dev, can't guarantee the proper function of.

with more people using it , more bugs is bound to appear

streak bug isnt new but its confusing if u use it in fights , especially in 1vX where you cannot really tell you doesnt have root from anyone else,, the best solution is to use another streak i think
btw ball of lightning isnt that buggy as streak so if u use want to escape, its better to use that version

shield bug is common too.. sometimes when using skill animation goes off but nothing happen, but i experienced the opposite also.. shield up, no animation

MalcolM24 · July 2019

Baphomet wrote: »

Shields not applying when activated is already a thing on live.

Harness magicka also suffers from this bug where you have to press it 4-5 times before it executes.

This is particularly true in combat, and it isn’t the same thing as the sluggish respons you sometimes get from abilities during lag.

There is something up with shields.

yea the clip I've linked with it is from a few months ago. The shield bug was first introduced in murkmire (the 'take a crap' bug), they 'fixed' it and now we have this.

Mayrael · July 2019

Galarthor wrote: »

Mayrael wrote: »

Welcome to the club. Sincerely yours, magblades.

It's not very polite of you, to only welcome us after we have been members for ages ...

Sorry my friend

come let us drink some vodka, sing and dance because we can't count on ZOS to fix our stuff, it's funny how they adjust our skills but don't acknowledge that they're broken. ZOS sees only what they want to see, that's the sad truth

I used to like them and defend them but facts are facts - they pretend that some bugs don't exist.

f047ys3v3n · July 2019

MalcolM24 wrote: »

Small overview of the current bugs for the magsorc:

Shield bug:
The shield isn't being applied, even though the skill is being spammed. Very noticeable in this clip, where it happens a couple times in a row. It's not an uncommon bug either.

Have noticed this on live but I thought it was the weird silence bug you sometimes get after a boss CC's you and you have to barswap to clear it. In any case, killed me twice downstairs in vSS a few days ago as well as once in vMA. The group thanks you for the vSS wipes BTW ZOS.

Does this bug effect harness as well? The sorc shield is not so special anymore and I would be more than happy to use the other and have it actually cast.

MalcolM24 wrote: »

Crystal fragment bug:
On occasion your character will cast another (hardcasted) fragment after using a procced fragment. Might have something to do with spamming the skill *before* the first fragment finally casts.

Started noticing this on live sometime after this last patch. Makes me look the fool standing there in PVE hard casting a frags and is also a dps loss. I'm sure the guys in PVP that die casting it really love it.

Vortigaunt · July 2019

f047ys3v3n wrote: »

MalcolM24 wrote: »

Small overview of the current bugs for the magsorc:

Shield bug:
The shield isn't being applied, even though the skill is being spammed. Very noticeable in this clip, where it happens a couple times in a row. It's not an uncommon bug either.

Have noticed this on live but I thought it was the weird silence bug you sometimes get after a boss CC's you and you have to barswap to clear it. In any case, killed me twice downstairs in vSS a few days ago as well as once in vMA. The group thanks you for the vSS wipes BTW ZOS.

Does this bug effect harness as well? The sorc shield is not so special anymore and I would be more than happy to use the other and have it actually cast.

MalcolM24 wrote: »

Crystal fragment bug:
On occasion your character will cast another (hardcasted) fragment after using a procced fragment. Might have something to do with spamming the skill *before* the first fragment finally casts.

Started noticing this on live sometime after this last patch. Makes me look the fool standing there in PVE hard casting a frags and is also a dps loss. I'm sure the guys in PVP that die casting it really love it.

You notice it even more when you actually spam click your frags button. Happened to me literally all the time, super obnoxious...

Expert · July 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlOAMgkLBKQ

https://gfycat.com/jollytediousgoldenretriever

Definitely needs more light on these issues

MalcolM24 · July 2019

Expert wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlOAMgkLBKQ

https://gfycat.com/jollytediousgoldenretriever

Definitely needs more light on these issues

it's gonna be sad if this bug makes it to live

SirLeeMinion · July 2019

Liam12548 wrote: »

Every patch more and more bugs are introduced, the performance further degrades, and the overall quality of PVP gets worse. It's been like this for several years now, and at this point ZOS can't fix it all.

The bugs in this thread won't get fixed before live. You'll be blessed to even get an actual developer comment on this - apart from "we have deleted several comments..." if the discussion gets out of hand. Sad truth is ZOS has written off PVP and probably isn't going to invest any resources into it until they HAVE TO - that'll be the patch that breaks siege and large group PvP.

The thing I don't get is that they seem to be actively balancing around PvP while neglecting the bugs that make it unenjoyable or even unplayable. With the exception of checking the golden vendor, I can't remember the last time I went into Cyrodiil during peak playing hours because of the many loading screens and DCs.

ZOS_JesC · July 2019

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Galarthor · July 2019

1 bug of the list down (according to patch notes), 2 more to go.

Would be awesome if we could get the other 2 bugs fixed too, before U23 hits Live, b/c those are the actually detrimental ones.

Thanks a lot!

MalcolM24 · July 2019

Galarthor wrote: »

1 bug of the list down (according to patch notes), 2 more to go.

Would be awesome if we could get the other 2 bugs fixed too, before U23 hits Live, b/c those are the actually detrimental ones.

Thanks a lot!

yea it's a nice start! Removed the first streak bug from the OP, I hope I can do that with the other bugs too someday.
And shade got a fix just now, so there's hope.