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May as well delete the forums since it's ignored
Ezorus
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Another update but everything stays the same. What the is the point of having forums and a feedback section if they don't respond to it. Keeping the same stupid changes that were leaked and nobody wants! Remove the changes to Onslaught, Momentum, Flawless DB and all the damage reductions and cost increases. It's like they are wanting us to unsubscribe
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TheRealSniker✭✭✭✭✭
✭I feel like the exact opposite, all my concerns and suggestions are being heard.7 -
xeNNNNN✭✭✭✭✭
✭Understand the frustration but this is somewhat of an overreaction really. Big difference between not hearing and not agreeing - The real issue is a lack of communication and it always has been that. We can't actually debate with the developers themselves which also presents a slight problem as I would argue some players actually know the game better than the developers themselves.Edited by xeNNNNN on July 23, 2019 3:42AMAh, e-communities - the "pinnacle" of the internet............yeah, right.7 -
TBois✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nah they just ignore the stam sorcs. They have been pretty attentive otherwise these days.PC/NA
T-Bois (Stam Sorc since 1.4) - AD
An Unsettling Snowball (Templar) - AD
Bosquecito (Stam Sorc) - DC
Peti-T-Bois (Stamden) - AD1 -
josh.lackey_ESO✭✭✭✭✭TheRealSniker wrote: »I feel like the exact opposite, all my concerns and suggestions are being heard.
Of course, because the new "balance" dev is a stam nightblade main and the bias is showing through clear as day.10 -
Royalthought✭✭✭✭✭josh.lackey_ESO wrote: »TheRealSniker wrote: »I feel like the exact opposite, all my concerns and suggestions are being heard.
Of course, because the new "balance" dev is a stam nightblade main and the bias is showing through clear as day.
Huh?
Nightblades have probably had the most nerfs these last two patches.
They got hammered exclusively last patch. The difference is this time they had nerfs for nearly everybody.7 -
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✭I wonder how much is missed just because players don't use the official threads and channels, but open their own threads for every single point.
I mean, there are threads for bugs and ZOS mentioned that they prefer to have bugs reported in the game via /bug - but still players open up a new thread for just one bug. This creates lots of "noise". I hope at least our class reps can work through the stuff and point out to ZOS what's important.
I mean, look at this forum, the official threads are empty in comparison to all those threads here. I understand those threads are important for discussion, but many of them are suggesting they are feedback. And many others are just QQ.
1000+ CP
PC/EU Ravenwatch Daggerfall Covenant
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TheNightflame✭✭✭✭✭Um, have you seen the class rep's feedback? the list that gets put directly into the hands of zos? they've been sending practically the same list (and a very detailed one at that-albeit with new additions each patch). since the program's inception. ZOS sees everything, and it's wrong to put the onus on the community for "'making noise" when it's really just ZOS doing nothing about the majority of what we (including the class reps) gice them2
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SodanTok✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This is feedback forum, not democratic conclave deciding what changes are good or bad. Just because everyone hates taxes doesnt mean they will stop asking for them if you get my meaning.3 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭What do you mean OP? They have been listening to the secret society Brotherhood of Potato Farmers quite extensively.
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Nifty2g✭✭✭✭✭
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Pretty sure they do not dictate the direction in the game. Besides nightblades were incredibly op before Gill went onto the team,josh.lackey_ESO wrote: »TheRealSniker wrote: »I feel like the exact opposite, all my concerns and suggestions are being heard.
Of course, because the new "balance" dev is a stam nightblade main and the bias is showing through clear as day.
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Royaji✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Forums are here for people who want to troll, bait and flame each other to farm those ten stars. Everything else is just a little extra on the side.2 -
Reverb✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Just because they don’t do what you want doesn’t mean they’re not listening. Requesting feedback doesn’t obligate you to act on all feedback given.Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche1 -
Narvuntien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Seems like I got some of my concerns partially addressed...
Namely Dks have now got more reason to use their class skills
and they have acknowledged that Sorc healers have no reason to use more than one sorc skill and they badly need a Heal over time.
Still, have all the other classes to be looked at.
I like the changes to DB and Onslaught.
I think you need a lesson on how to give feedback. You can't just see someones work and say "nope this is awful undo everything" you have to give feedback on thier vision and how they can do what they want to do better.1 -
BlueRaven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This is feedback forum, not democratic conclave deciding what changes are good or bad. Just because everyone hates taxes doesnt mean they will stop asking for them if you get my meaning.
Using taxes is a bit of a straw man, nobody likes paying taxes. But taxes are a necessity for a running government. These changes are far from being necessary, and they are fundamental changes to how the game is played. And a lot of them are just dumb.Which feedback do they listen to and act on though, yours or the person who holds an opposing opinion?
Oh! They do listen to the forums, but only to the people who agree with whatever ZOS says, I understand now. Still does not answer the question about why give feedback though.
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It's unbelievable to me as we go through these cycles, that still we have people defending a forums that the developers don't respond to or recognize.
We went through this with the badly handled race changes. Where there was a ton of feedback and now we only have one clear race choice for tank and one clear choice for stamina dps. (And how argonians are not really a choice for anything anymore. And how they turned wood elves into a PvP only race with the dead for PvE passive.)
And now we will go though this again were we nerf tanks so badly they can't do questing or dailies, so no one wants to play one. Nerfed AOEs so that vet trials which depend on those same aoes (and tank damage) cannot be done. And go on to then mess over anyone who is not a templar or warden healer.
But if you were part of the anti-tank and anti-trial crowd I guess they listened to you. Brilliant. Although we would never know as they don't respond to or act upon things brought up on these forums.1
