if it makes you feel any better, crouch into stealth mode first

zaria wrote: »

This has been part of elder scroll since Daggerfall, also common in lots of RPG but not MMO. some chance it will change with the thief guild

I kind of agree with the OP. In the other TES games, I usually didn't steal from containers in private houses unless required to by a quest.

The stuff on the street, though, was fair game.

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Censorious wrote: »

Is it only me who finds something immoral about going into houses and rifling through the desks, bookshelves and chests looking for stuff to steal, often while the occupant is standing there apparently unaware?

It's like going to a dinner party and walking away with half the silverware cutlery under your coat.
It genuinely makes me feel uncomfortable.

There's actually a book about this you find on the starter islands.
It says something to the effect of 'You're doing great deeds so you're often allowed by people (NPCs) to take a sample of items from their barrels/crates etc etc, but not the whole lot.'. Kind of a thank you for helping save the world sort of thing.
The book also goes on to say however it's rude to take everything. That's why when we open a full barrel of something we're only given the option of taking such things as one or two pieces of capon meat, and not the whole barrel-full, which would be something like 100. So don't feel too bad.
Of course, we don't have to take anything if we don't want to either. In the end it's ultimately up to us.

Thalesianulathrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Censorious wrote: »

Is it only me who finds something immoral about going into houses and rifling through the desks, bookshelves and chests looking for stuff to steal, often while the occupant is standing there apparently unaware?

It's like going to a dinner party and walking away with half the silverware cutlery under your coat.
It genuinely makes me feel uncomfortable.

There's actually a book about this you find on the starter islands.
It says something to the effect of 'You're doing great deeds so you're often allowed by people (NPCs) to take a sample of items from their barrels/crates etc etc, but not the whole lot.'. Kind of a thank you for helping save the world sort of thing.
The book also goes on to say however it's rude to take everything. That's why when we open a full barrel of something we're only given the option of taking such things as one or two pieces of capon meat, and not the whole barrel-full, which would be something like 100. So don't feel too bad.
Of course, we don't have to take anything if we don't want to either. In the end it's ultimately up to us.

Lol interesting...

Note to Zenimax: Wouldn't it be better and more appropriate to just outright ask the home owners specific items/ingredients that we want since we are given this privilege rather than steal stuffs where the owners are fully aware of your intention?

It bothered me in the beginning, but as the NPC residents aren't the ones throwing themselves up against brick-wall bosses repeatedly, or having to repair their gear (or make new gear every few levels besides), I figure we need the help a little more than they do. I think they're okay with the tradeoff, as they lounge around their comfy fireplaces indoors or plant flowers outside instead.

I should have named my character Lobelia.

yes, i wish the npcs would have a fit and begin to beat you and guards show up and show you the door if caught. nothing breaks immersion like walking behind a store counter next to the clerk and riffling all his goods while he watches and says 'hello'

Natjur wrote: »

The 'thief' flag on items in houses in not in game yet. Make the most of robbing the houses blind while you can.

This!
You are simply taking items they have lying around their house, why should they have to gather them up just to give them to you? That would also stray from the Elder Scrolls concept of being able to go around and loot things lying around, in barrels, crates, etc.
When the thieves guild is introduced there may become a *steal* action instead of the simple take one we have now. Of course this is self-explanatory to most ES fans others may not know so i'll state it. Taking something with the *steal* action gives you a *stolen* item which can only be sold to certain people (usually thieves guild members called Fences). Taking something with the *take* option as it is now gives you a regular item. In previous elder scrolls games certain people wouldn't let you take items from their house when you first met them, but after doing a quest for them they become your friend and allow you to take items. This makes the *steal* option in that house become *take*.
I am hoping this is the way they do it once the thieves guild is released .

Hey! I am a high-elf!