Underleveling?

PerfectTemplar · April 2014

I know lots of people don't experience this, but I do know a lot of people do.

I have the quest achievements for every zone apart from the zone (level 32) I am in. Yet I am still underleveled for the quests I am doing and have been since I finished Auridon, I now have to do quests 3-4 levels higher than me and It's really not that enjoyable when I just watch to do some laid back leveling. Are the quests not giving enough xp? Btw I do all the dungeons in every zone, I just miss a few mini bosses and that is about it. It causes me to be super under leveled. I also do all the guild quests when I get them.

Thunder_Downunder · April 2014

its only a guess but perhaps the dev's expected that everyone would do some crafting along the way - I think that adds to overall XP.

PerfectTemplar · April 2014

Thunder_Downunder wrote: »

its only a guess but perhaps the dev's expected that everyone would do some crafting along the way - I think that adds to overall XP.

Atm I only need blacksmithing and so that is all I have been doing, level 15 BS atm.

Thunder_Downunder · April 2014

no ideas then. Presently, I'm only lvl 10 and seem to be spot on, but I thought initially I was over leveled by the time I finished the starter islands (daggerfall)

PerfectTemplar · April 2014

Thunder_Downunder wrote: »

no ideas then. Presently, I'm only lvl 10 and seem to be spot on, but I thought initially I was over leveled by the time I finished the starter islands (daggerfall)

I thought that too, I was over leveled after the starter island on Aldmeri Dominion, but after Auridon it jumped 2 levels over me.

KD1345 · April 2014

I actually prefer that I be under leveled. I will feel more accomplished when I complete the quest and move on, plus I gain more experience that way. I've been under leveled since around level 11 and I'm not level 28. I gained all those levels very very quickly due to the fact all my quests were 2 or more levels above me. At level 24 I was completing level 29 quests, some impossible, others just required solid tactics. Only those that I struggled with (very few) cause me to not be laid back. I disagree with this, I think it should remain how it is.

babylon · April 2014

You should try doing all the public dungeons as well - not only do they have a boss at the end (which I think gains you a little xp for completing the dungeon), but they also have a quest in there which takes you somewhere (usually some npc in town rewards you).

Karmine · April 2014

You sure you completed all Public Dungeons, all Skull Sites, found all Eye Locations and shut down all Anchors ? Doing Main Quest and Guilds quest also ?

If yes, go do the Group Dungeons for skill points and then when you come back you'll be fine.

Loxy37 · April 2014

Make sure you always do the starter islands and do all the content on the maps. If you have all the icons white then you should we atleast 2 levels above each zone. The starter islands are your best bet though.

Crazysam87 · April 2014

A lot of poeple are underleveled, even in high level areas. Tons of players are farming mobs in coldharbour or farming quests in PvP because they skipped a few quests for various reasons including bugged quests or hard to find ones. The game just does not have enough quests.

Lonn87b16_ESO · April 2014

Have you done all the solo dungeons as well?

I wasn't underleveled until 35-36-ish but then it got a bit carried away when the quests were for four levels higher than what I currently was.

Also, I don't believe that crafting gives you any kind of experience whatsoever, most likely because you'd be able to start crafting on an alt as soon as you leave coldharbor for the first time, meaning you'd outlevel more or less everything at once.

Harkrider · April 2014

Crazysam87 wrote: »

A lot of poeple are underleveled, even in high level areas. Tons of players are farming mobs in coldharbour or farming quests in PvP because they skipped a few quests for various reasons including bugged quests or hard to find ones. The game just does not have enough quests.

I'm sorry, but I've been massively overleveled from questing since Auridon (first Aldmeri zone after starter island). All of my quests are green or grey. Saying that the amount of quests is insufficient for leveling is incredibly misleading.

And no, I haven't PvP'd much. I'm barely a recruit, and I've done maybe 2 quests in Cyrodiil.

Loxy37 · April 2014

Harkrider wrote: »

Crazysam87 wrote: »

A lot of poeple are underleveled, even in high level areas. Tons of players are farming mobs in coldharbour or farming quests in PvP because they skipped a few quests for various reasons including bugged quests or hard to find ones. The game just does not have enough quests.

I'm sorry, but I've been massively overleveled from questing since Auridon (first Aldmeri zone after starter island). All of my quests are green or grey. Saying that the amount of quests is insufficient for leveling is incredibly misleading.

And no, I haven't PvP'd much. I'm barely a recruit, and I've done maybe 2 quests in Cyrodiil.

This.... I havent PvPed and all the way to 30 Ive been over-levelled.

Crazysam87 · April 2014

Because you had no issues does not mean there is none. I have all done pretty much all quests in all zones(missing a couple achivements, though), but ended up being 2 levels behind.

Alphoter5 · April 2014

I dont know man, maybe you are just bad at mmos. Im always 2 or 3 levels above and i just play and explore from here to there, not so hard.
Do some pvp too, pvp quest are easy and give some exp. Just join a pvp group at siege or defending and sit there, wait for a minute till they kill 20 people... or you could also help, but idk.

Harkrider · April 2014

Here is an image as proof for my previous comment.

You can see that I'm overleveled for my current content. If you are indeed doing all the quests, there's no reason for you to be underleveled at any point.

Lonn87b16_ESO · April 2014

It may also be because of a simple thing such as what crafting materials you need, mats for clothing or blacksmithing aren't amassed by fighting monsters, like leatherworking materials are. Always something to consider that leatherworking is maintained by farming mobs that drop leather, instead of mined or gathered.

Rhoric · April 2014

I have been slightly under leveled but that makes it more fun and challenging

Harkrider · April 2014

Crazysam87 wrote: »

Because you had no issues does not mean there is none. I have all done pretty much all quests in all zones(missing a couple achivements, though), but ended up being 2 levels behind.

If you're missing the achievements, then you have not completed the zones...

There are EXTRA quests to do, even after you reach the point of getting an achievement. I have always gotten zone achievements with another 3 or 4 quests to do.

KD1345 · April 2014

The only reason I am under leveled is because I skip past all the little fights and just focus on completing the quests as it's the fastest way to level up (in my opinion). If I stopped and focused on the fights going to and from quests and did EVERY quest and dungeon I came across, I'd be over leveled for the quests, which as my earlier comment stated, is not what I want. I'd rather be behind in levels and actually fight and work at completing the quests then just trample through them like I'm an elephant in a fine china shop. Plus, those quests that I can not complete by myself because I am under leveled, I just either wait for some randoms to come along and I follow them in, or I invite someone to the party and have them help me. There should be no reason you are under leveled if you are killing things on the way to quests and doing all the quests and dungeons, and if you are, even after that, it should not be so outrageously hard that you can't continue on anyways.

Rev Rielle · April 2014

I personally think the experience rate should be lowered. I'm just taking my time and playing the game as I believe it was intended, and my character's often significantly higher than the quests. So much so that no experience or items are often garnered from defeating the enemies, which is a little sad personally, but understandable from a mechanics point of view.

Looking at it objectively I'd say the experience rate is okay - on balance - overall. After all we have some that say it's not enough, and some that say it's too much.

I guess it all comes down to how you play the game.

Harkrider · April 2014

Thalesianulathrwb17_ESO wrote: »

I personally think the experience rate should be lowered. I'm just taking my time and playing the game as I believe it was intended, and my character's often significantly higher than the quests. So much so that no experience or items are often garnered from defeating the enemies, which is a little sad personally, but understandable from a mechanics point of view.

Looking at it objectively I'd say the experience rate is okay - on balance - overall. After all we have some that say it's not enough, and some that say it's too much.

I guess it all comes down to how you play the game.

I agree that it's somewhat disheartening to not get any real reward from doing quests or killing enemies due to being overleveled. I'm at 43 though, so not much further to go before VR's. VR will give the content a chance to catch up to my character. I'm pretty excited.

Ulven · April 2014

I got the opposite problem, get to zones with 2-3 more lvl than expected. So you're doing something wrong. Do some instances, some cyrodiil maybe.

Lonn87b16_ESO · April 2014

Harkrider wrote: »

I'm at 43 though, so not much further to go before VR's. VR will give the content a chance to catch up to my character. I'm pretty excited.

Not quite, at least not if what people are saying is true.
Apparently you need to have the main quest for the last zone either in your questlog or finished off to be able to get the final main story quest, which in turn you have to finish to be able to get any veteran points at all.

If that information is false however, have fun letting the game catch up to you ;O

Harkrider · April 2014

Lonn87b16_ESO wrote: »

Harkrider wrote: »

I'm at 43 though, so not much further to go before VR's. VR will give the content a chance to catch up to my character. I'm pretty excited.

Not quite, at least not if what people are saying is true.
Apparently you need to have the main quest for the last zone either in your questlog or finished off to be able to get the final main story quest, which in turn you have to finish to be able to get any veteran points at all.

If that information is false however, have fun letting the game catch up to you ;O

That's exactly why it will allow the game to catch up to my character's level

I will reach 50 long before I finish the quests, but I won't be able to level up any more. In the meantime, I will continue doing the quests which are below my level, until the point that I've done everything except the final missions.

At that point, I will still be 50, and my quests will have caught up with me.

Ysne58 · April 2014

You do not get any exp for crafting, that gives inspiration, which only levels crafting.

Harkrider · April 2014

Ysne58 wrote: »

You do not get any exp for crafting, that gives inspiration, which only levels crafting.

This is true. Crafting has nothing to do with character level.

Putok · April 2014

IMHO, quests don't give nearly enough exp.

Grinding is easily ten times faster. Four or five three-pulls yields as much exp as the final turn-in of a questline. It's generally 15-30 minutes per level grinding with a good aoe build and not a lot of competition.

I was questing, and I like the quests, but I've decided I'm just going to grind up to VR1, and then come back to do all the quests afterwards.

Harkrider · April 2014

Putok wrote: »

IMHO, quests don't give nearly enough exp.

Grinding is easily ten times faster. Four or five three-pulls yields as much exp as the final turn-in of a questline. It's generally 15-30 minutes per level grinding with a good aoe build and not a lot of competition.

I was questing, and I like the quests, but I've decided I'm just going to grind up to VR1, and then come back to do all the quests afterwards.

That's an issue with grinding, not questing IMO.

People are already outleveling zones long before they complete them, so why would you suggest increasing quest rewards? That makes no sense.

Nooblet · April 2014

It kinda depends on how crowded your area is. If you have 4-5 ppl running up ahead of ou clearing dungeons, and you just tag the last boss and get out. You miss out on a bit of xp along the way. This adds up more than you might think.

But just grind some mobs for a while if you want to catch up, its pretty fast and before you know it youll be caught up.

Endolith · April 2014

I've been under by a level or two, which is no big deal. I can still do the quests fine. I'm sure I've missed some content along the way and that's why I'm behind.