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Irrefutable PROOF that the alliance lock has made pvp worse ps4 eu
MCBIZZLE300
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Since the campaign was won by EP last month a large amount of opposing alliances players have joined the reds making DC and AD vastly outnumbered with no chance of winning the campaign. It feels for many that its 4 or 5 EP for every DC or AD. This alliance lock has to be changed very soon as more and more players are joining EP or just giving up and abandoning cyrodiil making the balance of the waring factions even more one sided. If you dissagree and are a DC or AD locked player on ps4 EU please state your reaons why and if your experiencing the same problem on another platform leave a comment and hopefully this thread will gain some momentum. I end this discussion with a couple of screenshots.
Half way through the campaign
Alliance population at prime time (9pm on a friday).
Edited by MCBIZZLE300 on July 20, 2019 1:50PM Half way through the campaign
Alliance population at prime time (9pm on a friday).
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Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well there also is an irrefutable proof that alliance locks are wonderful, because we just finished a campaign on PC EU with all 3 scores being very close to 90K, and the last few hours have been a nail-biting race to see who would end up first.
We never had that before, because as soon as one alliance (usually AD because of nightcapping) got a lead, many players switched there to be on the winning side, and AD won by a landslide as a result. Month after month.
So...32 -
Vlad9425✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes EP is outnumbering the other 2 alliances by quite a big margin on PS4 EU but at prime time the fights are usually pretty even. The reason EP is so high up in points however is because they are nightcapping the map.4 -
LukosCreyden✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Was pretty balanced last night when I was on. All 3 alliances locked; EP were actually losing ground. We were barely holding on to BRK.
Yes, this was PS4/EU.Struggling to find a new class to call home.Please send help.2 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭AvA by design ends up imbalanced. That is why bringing back faction locks was a dumb idea. Some people think it is competitive but it is not and Zos is to swayed by vocal players.
What is fun about faction locks is no one knows I am screwing with them when I use my alt account.Edited by idk on July 20, 2019 2:02PM1 -
MCBIZZLE300✭✭✭✭✭Well there also is an irrefutable proof that alliance locks are wonderful, because we just finished a campaign on PC EU with all 3 scores being very close to 90K, and the last few hours have been a nail-biting race to see who would end up first.
We never had that before, because as soon as one alliance (usually AD because of nightcapping) got a lead, many players switched there to be on the winning side, and AD won by a landslide as a result. Month after month.
So...
This is ps4 eu not pc.0 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭AvA by design ends up imbalanced.
I disagree. According to every poll i ever saw, the three factions are roughly equally popular.
Give it time, and eventually the AvA populations will spread out. There is no reason why one of them should have all the players, except as a momentum from the previous (unlocked) months.5 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »Why is always an AD player with this stuff? lol
Im dc
Your avatar pic is an AD spy! lol2 -
MCBIZZLE300✭✭✭✭✭AvA by design ends up imbalanced.
I disagree. According to every poll i ever saw, the three factions are roughly equally popular.
Give it time, and eventually the AvA populations will spread out. There is no reason why one of them should have all the players, except as a momentum from the previous (unlocked) months.
Your not experiencing the zerg horde of EP like we are though so its hard for you to form a valid opinion.3 -
Vlad9425✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭AvA by design ends up imbalanced. That is why bringing back faction locks was a dumb idea. Some people think it is competitive but it is not and Zos is to swayed by vocal players.
What is fun about faction locks is no one knows I am screwing with them when I use my alt account.
Best thing about faction lock is that there's a lot less trolls in chat but honestly I think most people are tired of faction lock already.1 -
Vlad9425✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭AvA by design ends up imbalanced.
I disagree. According to every poll i ever saw, the three factions are roughly equally popular.
Give it time, and eventually the AvA populations will spread out. There is no reason why one of them should have all the players, except as a momentum from the previous (unlocked) months.
Polls aren't an accurate representation of how many people are in each alliance who actually PvP because half of the people in those polls probably don't even go into Cyrodiil and the screenshots posted above are basically how things are most days on PS4 EU so there are very clear imbalances.0 -
SirAxen✭✭✭✭✭Overall, faction lock is best. I haven't seen the campaigns come down to such nail biting numbers in a long, long time. It's been a blast to see actual Alliance loyalty and pushes again.7 -
Gracous✭✭✭✭Since the campaign was won by EP last month a large amount of opposing alliances players have joined the reds making DC and AD vastly outnumbered with no chance of winning the campaign. It feels for many that its 4 or 5 EP for every DC or AD. This alliance lock has to be changed very soon as more and more players are joining EP or just giving up and abandoning cyrodiil making the balance of the waring factions even more one sided. If you dissagree and are a DC or AD locked player on ps4 EU please state your reaons why and if your experiencing the same problem on another platform leave a comment and hopefully this thread will gain some momentum. I end this discussion with a couple of screenshots.
Half way through the campaign
Alliance population at prime time (9pm on a friday).
This doesn't prove your statement. All it proves is that EP had more people on at the time of the screenshot. I'm an AD player and all this shows is that people would rather EP toons than AD or DC toons at this time. Those people could have chosen to play a different alliance but they didn't.4 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭AvA by design ends up imbalanced.
I disagree. According to every poll i ever saw, the three factions are roughly equally popular.
Give it time, and eventually the AvA populations will spread out. There is no reason why one of them should have all the players, except as a momentum from the previous (unlocked) months.
Polls aren't an accurate representation of how many people are in each alliance who actually PvP because half of the people in those polls probably don't even go into Cyrodiil and the screenshots posted above are basically how things are most days on PS4 EU so there are very clear imbalances.
The average number of people who actually PvP is the same in each alliance, because all alliances draw their players from the same general pool of players, and there is no statistically significant reason for PvP players to choose one color over another.0 -
Tornaad✭✭✭✭✭
✭Since the campaign was won by EP last month a large amount of opposing alliances players have joined the reds making DC and AD vastly outnumbered with no chance of winning the campaign. It feels for many that its 4 or 5 EP for every DC or AD. This alliance lock has to be changed very soon as more and more players are joining EP or just giving up and abandoning cyrodiil making the balance of the waring factions even more one sided. If you dissagree and are a DC or AD locked player on ps4 EU please state your reaons why and if your experiencing the same problem on another platform leave a comment and hopefully this thread will gain some momentum. I end this discussion with a couple of screenshots.
Half way through the campaign
Alliance population at prime time (9pm on a friday).
...so your "Irrefutable PROOF that the alliance lock has made pvp worse" involves a claim that people from other alliances switched sides making your side lose. … sure that makes a lot of sense.6 -
MCBIZZLE300✭✭✭✭✭Since the campaign was won by EP last month a large amount of opposing alliances players have joined the reds making DC and AD vastly outnumbered with no chance of winning the campaign. It feels for many that its 4 or 5 EP for every DC or AD. This alliance lock has to be changed very soon as more and more players are joining EP or just giving up and abandoning cyrodiil making the balance of the waring factions even more one sided. If you dissagree and are a DC or AD locked player on ps4 EU please state your reaons why and if your experiencing the same problem on another platform leave a comment and hopefully this thread will gain some momentum. I end this discussion with a couple of screenshots.
Half way through the campaign
Alliance population at prime time (9pm on a friday).
...so your "Irrefutable PROOF that the alliance lock has made pvp worse" involves a claim that people from other alliances switched sides making your side lose. … sure that makes a lot of sense.
How does it not make sense, bieng able to play any alliance any time restores the balance. Now people choose ep and dont have the option to play on a different alliance aswel thus making it worse... and its not a claim its a fact.1 -
MCBIZZLE300✭✭✭✭✭AvA by design ends up imbalanced.
I disagree. According to every poll i ever saw, the three factions are roughly equally popular.
Give it time, and eventually the AvA populations will spread out. There is no reason why one of them should have all the players, except as a momentum from the previous (unlocked) months.
Polls aren't an accurate representation of how many people are in each alliance who actually PvP because half of the people in those polls probably don't even go into Cyrodiil and the screenshots posted above are basically how things are most days on PS4 EU so there are very clear imbalances.
The average number of people who actually PvP is the same in each alliance, because all alliances draw their players from the same general pool of players, and there is no statistically significant reason for PvP players to choose one color over another.
Other than the obvious reason that an alliance wins the war then people switch.0 -
Xarc✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Since the campaign was won by EP last month a large amount of opposing alliances players have joined the reds making DC and AD vastly outnumbered with no chance of winning the campaign. It feels for many that its 4 or 5 EP for every DC or AD. This alliance lock has to be changed very soon as more and more players are joining EP or just giving up and abandoning cyrodiil making the balance of the waring factions even more one sided. If you dissagree and are a DC or AD locked player on ps4 EU please state your reaons why and if your experiencing the same problem on another platform leave a comment and hopefully this thread will gain some momentum. I end this discussion with a couple of screenshots.
Half way through the campaign
Alliance population at prime time (9pm on a friday).
this is not the fault of faction'lock . People are playing the char they want. And now after the new campaign they continue to play their char. Maybe if they want some balance, they switch to another faction, but it looks like they dont want.
This is the same deal on PC EUEdited by Xarc on July 20, 2019 2:58PM@xarcs FR-EU-PC -"Death is overrated", Xarc
Xãrc -- breton necro - DC - AvA rank50
Xarcus -- imperial DK - DC - AvA rank50 - pureclass DK
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Elnaa - breton NB - DC - AvA rank50 - healer
Isilenil - Altmer NB - AD - AvA rank41 - pureclass NB
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Sarah Cénia - Bosmer DK - DC - AvA rank23
Glàdys - redguard templar - DC - AvA rank40 - pureclass Templar
Xaljaa - breton NB - now EP - AvA rank40
Coquelìcot - breton NB - EP - AvA rank26
+ 10 other characters
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MCBIZZLE300✭✭✭✭✭Since the campaign was won by EP last month a large amount of opposing alliances players have joined the reds making DC and AD vastly outnumbered with no chance of winning the campaign. It feels for many that its 4 or 5 EP for every DC or AD. This alliance lock has to be changed very soon as more and more players are joining EP or just giving up and abandoning cyrodiil making the balance of the waring factions even more one sided. If you dissagree and are a DC or AD locked player on ps4 EU please state your reaons why and if your experiencing the same problem on another platform leave a comment and hopefully this thread will gain some momentum. I end this discussion with a couple of screenshots.
Half way through the campaign
Alliance population at prime time (9pm on a friday).
This doesn't prove your statement. All it proves is that EP had more people on at the time of the screenshot. I'm an AD player and all this shows is that people would rather EP toons than AD or DC toons at this time. Those people could have chosen to play a different alliance but they didn't.
People have literally told me they've switched to red because they won the last campaign.3 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭AvA by design ends up imbalanced.
I disagree. According to every poll i ever saw, the three factions are roughly equally popular.
Give it time, and eventually the AvA populations will spread out. There is no reason why one of them should have all the players, except as a momentum from the previous (unlocked) months.
Polls aren't an accurate representation of how many people are in each alliance who actually PvP because half of the people in those polls probably don't even go into Cyrodiil and the screenshots posted above are basically how things are most days on PS4 EU so there are very clear imbalances.
The average number of people who actually PvP is the same in each alliance, because all alliances draw their players from the same general pool of players, and there is no statistically significant reason for PvP players to choose one color over another.
Other than the obvious reason that an alliance wins the war then people switch.
People do not switch if alliance wins the war with a score of 90k when their own alliance had 89K. If anything, it motivates them to get a payback.
They only switch when they think the odds are impossible because they got beaten 90k to 10k - but that only happens when there are no faction locks(and thus people dogpile on the winning side), or as a result of there not being faction locks in the near past (populations do have some momentum).3 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Since the campaign was won by EP last month a large amount of opposing alliances players have joined the reds making DC and AD vastly outnumbered with no chance of winning the campaign. It feels for many that its 4 or 5 EP for every DC or AD. This alliance lock has to be changed very soon as more and more players are joining EP or just giving up and abandoning cyrodiil making the balance of the waring factions even more one sided. If you dissagree and are a DC or AD locked player on ps4 EU please state your reaons why and if your experiencing the same problem on another platform leave a comment and hopefully this thread will gain some momentum. I end this discussion with a couple of screenshots.
Half way through the campaign
Alliance population at prime time (9pm on a friday).
...so your "Irrefutable PROOF that the alliance lock has made pvp worse" involves a claim that people from other alliances switched sides making your side lose. … sure that makes a lot of sense.
How does it not make sense, bieng able to play any alliance any time restores the balance. Now people choose ep and dont have the option to play on a different alliance aswel thus making it worse... and its not a claim its a fact.
Not really without faction lock more players still jumped to the winning side than jumped to the under dog.
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MCBIZZLE300✭✭✭✭✭AvA by design ends up imbalanced.
I disagree. According to every poll i ever saw, the three factions are roughly equally popular.
Give it time, and eventually the AvA populations will spread out. There is no reason why one of them should have all the players, except as a momentum from the previous (unlocked) months.
Polls aren't an accurate representation of how many people are in each alliance who actually PvP because half of the people in those polls probably don't even go into Cyrodiil and the screenshots posted above are basically how things are most days on PS4 EU so there are very clear imbalances.
The average number of people who actually PvP is the same in each alliance, because all alliances draw their players from the same general pool of players, and there is no statistically significant reason for PvP players to choose one color over another.
Other than the obvious reason that an alliance wins the war then people switch.
People do not switch if alliance wins the war with a score of 90k when their own alliance had 89K. If anything, it motivates them to get a payback.
They only switch when they think the odds are impossible because they got beaten 90k to 10k - but that only happens when there are no faction locks(and thus people dogpile on the winning side), or as a result of there not being faction locks in the near past (populations do have some momentum).
Sorry did you not see what the scores are on ps4 eu? Ep have double ad and dc..2 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭AvA by design ends up imbalanced.
I disagree. According to every poll i ever saw, the three factions are roughly equally popular.
Give it time, and eventually the AvA populations will spread out. There is no reason why one of them should have all the players, except as a momentum from the previous (unlocked) months.
Polls aren't an accurate representation of how many people are in each alliance who actually PvP because half of the people in those polls probably don't even go into Cyrodiil and the screenshots posted above are basically how things are most days on PS4 EU so there are very clear imbalances.
The average number of people who actually PvP is the same in each alliance, because all alliances draw their players from the same general pool of players, and there is no statistically significant reason for PvP players to choose one color over another.
Other than the obvious reason that an alliance wins the war then people switch.
People do not switch if alliance wins the war with a score of 90k when their own alliance had 89K. If anything, it motivates them to get a payback.
They only switch when they think the odds are impossible because they got beaten 90k to 10k - but that only happens when there are no faction locks(and thus people dogpile on the winning side), or as a result of there not being faction locks in the near past (populations do have some momentum).
Sorry did you not see what the scores are on ps4 eu? Ep have double ad and dc..
Of course they do.
You let the players swap alliances at will, so they all pile on the same side for easy wins(usually due to nightcapping).
Then you lock the alliances and expect them to all spread out like good boys?
They have no reason to. It will take time to repair the damage unlocked factions caused, as players slowly naturally migrate between factions until some balance is restored.
What you are painting as the downside of locked factions is actually the result of them not being locked for such a long time.10 -
Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Looks like you’ve got a bad case of fairweather PVPers on PS4 EU. If a bunch of people stated that they were playing EP this campaign because EP won last campaign, that would have happened with or without faction locks. AD lost badly last campaign on PS4 NA. As of yesterday (I haven’t checked today yet), we have a comfortable lead. Know why? We all didn’t jump ship and join the winning alliance. We stayed and DEFENDED hard against the purple hoard.
Get some AD/DC loyal crowns on PS4 EU before claiming that faction locks are responsible for poor player behaviour.9 -
Moonsorrow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭And yet at PC EU at the biggest campaign that in the previous years that was dominated by AD on points and last couple campaigns went to EP.. now DC did get the win by rising to the spot with just working for it.
Winning is open to anyone. Yes, of course some do switch to the one that might look like winner, but they did that before also, making campaign scores useless by switching whenever someone worked for win so they abandoner their "main" alliance just to leech on rewards.
It works now since winning is open to anyone. The ones switching are most often potato tier anyways who play just for rewards. Kill them and /teatime emote.
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