Any other games lag as bad as ESO ?

Starlight_Knight · July 2019

PC - EU - No CP

Cant play for love nor money today, cant swap bar, can't doge, getting CC'd 3 times in a row, hammering the same skil 20 times and it still wont fire.
Its so bad and, now i've logged out cuz' its done my head in.

Anyone know of any other games / "premium games" that Lag like this? i mean, this is seriously detrimental to the health of the game and i've never seen anything like it,
Is this an acceptable standard ?

If i didn't have so many achievements and rl money invested into this server i would move to NA.

VikingBerserker · July 2019

The worst most consistent lag ive had in any mmo. ps4 na

Starlight_Knight · July 2019

VikingBerserker wrote: »

The worst most consistent lag ive had in any mmo. ps4 na

Right ?
Its such a massive shame.

Knootewoot · July 2019

I used to think Darkfall was bad. But actually it run good compared to this.

Yellow_Monolith · July 2019

The lag is so bad now, you can block and you'd still be blocking 6 seconds after letting go of block Lol.

priforce · July 2019

Fallout 76

Vietfox · July 2019

Yup, eso has the worst lag by far.
PC and PS4 EU

Jolipinator · July 2019

Pong.

It makes ESO look like Smooth Running Game #12.

Genomic · July 2019

I've been playing MMO's since Ultima Online. ZOS is the most amateurish and inept dev I've seen. But they still succeed and make bank because a) they have the huge ES name behind them and b) there is almost zero competition (oh, and C) they have become less and less an MMO and more an exercise in monetization - whale hunting). If they didn't have the ES name behind them they would have died. If there were competing against other new, big IP and competently run MMOs they would have been creamed. And if they weren't milking whales like crazy they wouldn't be making so much undeserved cash.

MisterBigglesworth · July 2019

Yes, Correspondence chess.

Swifigames · July 2019

VikingBerserker wrote: »

The worst most consistent lag ive had in any mmo. ps4 na

ArchMikem · July 2019

Trying to play the fan remake Black Mesa on my old Computer was a nightmare.

Lord_Eomer · July 2019

Starlight_Knight wrote: »

PC - EU - No CP

Cant play for love nor money today, cant swap bar, can't doge, getting CC'd 3 times in a row, hammering the same skil 20 times and it still wont fire.
Its so bad and, now i've logged out cuz' its done my head in.

Anyone know of any other games / "premium games" that Lag like this? i mean, this is seriously detrimental to the health of the game and i've never seen anything like it,
Is this an acceptable standard ?

If i didn't have so many achievements and rl money invested into this server i would move to NA.

You are complaining big time, i play at 150-200 Ping on EU and feel fine. Even if sometime ping reaches to 999 (due to may be my ISP)

I would not let small issues spoil my game play. I believe most of ESO players do same, enjoy more!

Xarc · July 2019

it is unplayble.

Only happens on primetime but it's during 6hours (from 6pm to midnight even 1am sometimes).

Zos should do something. People working the day cant pvp after their work because of lag.

Snowstrider · July 2019

Anyone played Final Fantasy on ps4? Is it as unstable and laggy as ESO or is it better? I have heard it even got crossplay.

Tandor · July 2019

Genomic wrote: »

I've been playing MMO's since Ultima Online. ZOS is the most amateurish and inept dev I've seen. But they still succeed and make bank because a) they have the huge ES name behind them and b) there is almost zero competition (oh, and C) they have become less and less an MMO and more an exercise in monetization - whale hunting). If they didn't have the ES name behind them they would have died. If there were competing against other new, big IP and competently run MMOs they would have been creamed. And if they weren't milking whales like crazy they wouldn't be making so much undeserved cash.

I think those sorts of points are always over-stated. The main reason the game does so well is because most players don't experience the level of problems that get highlighted on this forum, whether it's performance, balancing, skill changes, or failure to get answers to 15 tickets on the same issue etc., most players just enjoy the game and have few significant issues with it. While the players who do have these issues have genuine problems for the most part, they aren't representative of the playerbase as a whole.

thermatico · July 2019

Everquest 1 on 9600k baud dial-up.

Genomic · July 2019

Tandor wrote: »

Genomic wrote: »

I've been playing MMO's since Ultima Online. ZOS is the most amateurish and inept dev I've seen. But they still succeed and make bank because a) they have the huge ES name behind them and b) there is almost zero competition (oh, and C) they have become less and less an MMO and more an exercise in monetization - whale hunting). If they didn't have the ES name behind them they would have died. If there were competing against other new, big IP and competently run MMOs they would have been creamed. And if they weren't milking whales like crazy they wouldn't be making so much undeserved cash.

I think those sorts of points are always over-stated. The main reason the game does so well is because most players don't experience the level of problems that get highlighted on this forum, whether it's performance, balancing, skill changes, or failure to get answers to 15 tickets on the same issue etc., most players just enjoy the game and have few significant issues with it. While the players who do have these issues have genuine problems for the most part, they aren't representative of the playerbase as a whole.

Perhaps it is overstated. But I'd argue you are understating the issues. ZOS has been clumsily fumbling the ball time and time again since the unarguably disastrous opening. Like I said, I've played around a dozen MMOs over the past 20 years and I've seen a lot, but I've never seen this level of overall ineptitude and mismanagement from a AAA name MMO (so, no, I'm not at all just talking about balancing or no response to tickets). They should fall to their knees and thank the Divines they have the ES name behind them.

Cpt_Teemo · July 2019

Even small Emulator games non profit still have better running servers than ESO does which is odd

Willard · July 2019

I play several other games on PS4 and ESO is the only one I have performance issues with. Figures--the one game I like the most--I can't play

Starlight_Knight · July 2019

I am an ESO + member, always have been. I enjoy the game, many aspects of it, but as a grand overlord and a few others well on their way i feel my skill cap has got to the point where i can go for the big plays, high risk high reward solo game play, you know...
And i know not many players play like me as i'm always getting stitched up by people running away, but still, if the game responded to my needs i would have a better time.
When 1vX and all you need is that one skill to work and it wont, so it costs you the fight. or causes you to play against the lag like its another opponent.
I'm quite happy to sit on a siege engine or run round in a ball group and lag to my hearts content, but its the big plays where it gets you.

Welkynar · July 2019

Of all the multiplayer games I’m playing right now, ESO has the worst lag. Some issues I can think of right now besides what you said: can’t loot a body because it’s “not in range,” when the audio lags and there’s a period of time when there’s no audio and then ALL of that audio bursts into one loud noise, sudden slideshow FPS (also sometimes when entering a zone via wayshrine)... And these happen in 4-player dungeons. Cyrodiil can be kind of understandable when there’s a hundred players spamming skills in one area, but dungeons? Seriously? Even overland too.

Cernow · July 2019

PC-EU here, I have played the game on and off since launch. ESO has never been the most responsive MMO. Things did steadily improve after a shaky launch, but have got a LOT worse again since Summerset and Elsweyr expansions.

I've played over a dozen different MMOs over the past couple of decades. Every MMO has its issues, but I don't think I've experienced any with the same amount of long-standing technical issues with framerate, lag, poor response and bugs as ESO. With one notable exception, Wildstar, a game with fabulous potential but which essentially died because of its technical issues. Like ESO, Wildtsar also kept messing around with game balance, class design and made some bad decisions when it came to handling character progression. But players can usually tolerate such things, within reason, *IF* the game's performance is good and the game remains responsive and fun to play. But for Wildstar the technical problems combined with these other issues finished it off.

It seems to me that if ESO didn't have the Elder Scrolls franchise behind it then it could easily gone under before now. But big franchises have failed before in the industry and ZOS shouldn't be complacent. They urgently need to address the technical problems, in as much as the game engine and server infrastructure will allow. They need to do this before embarking on sweeping balance / gameplay changes which could upset a lot of players, but there seems no intention to do so as they're mostly in denial of the technical issues. It doesn't bode well.

andreasv · July 2019

Snowstrider wrote: »

Anyone played Final Fantasy on ps4? Is it as unstable and laggy as ESO or is it better? I have heard it even got crossplay.

FF14 performs brilliantly on both, PC and PS4. And yes, it has cross-play so no worries if your friends play on the other platform. But you'll be disappointed coming from ESO. There are no loot boxes in FF.

Vlad9425 · July 2019

If there are I haven't seen them.

RexyCat · July 2019

Cactus316000 wrote: »

The lag is so bad now, you can block and you'd still be blocking 6 seconds after letting go of block Lol.

That explains why blocks didn't work....even when try to time them before NPC hits me.
Solo any WB is a mess with how things work nowadays.

//RexyCat

Wolfpaw · July 2019

Snowstrider wrote: »

Anyone played Final Fantasy on ps4? Is it as unstable and laggy as ESO or is it better? I have heard it even got crossplay.

I played a little.

The style is not my thing, & it's more of a pve focused mmorpg. That said those devs take a lot of pride in their work. It's also sub2play & they have less wiggle room in the quality of service.

RexyCat · July 2019

Lord_Eomer wrote: »

Starlight_Knight wrote: »

PC - EU - No CP

Cant play for love nor money today, cant swap bar, can't doge, getting CC'd 3 times in a row, hammering the same skil 20 times and it still wont fire.
Its so bad and, now i've logged out cuz' its done my head in.

Anyone know of any other games / "premium games" that Lag like this? i mean, this is seriously detrimental to the health of the game and i've never seen anything like it,
Is this an acceptable standard ?

If i didn't have so many achievements and rl money invested into this server i would move to NA.

You are complaining big time, i play at 150-200 Ping on EU and feel fine. Even if sometime ping reaches to 999 (due to may be my ISP)

I would not let small issues spoil my game play. I believe most of ESO players do same, enjoy more!

There is something else going which you can't use PING for to indicate how much lag there is in game, when skill doesn't work or animation cancel (block, weapons swap, dodge etc) still doesn't cue in right time before you get hit. We have several issues where NPC get killed and teleport around, can't loot because of out of range message etc which is part of "lag" issues.

Today I also had several times where suddenly game kicked out to log in screen, so there is more then just simple a few minior issues. My PING in general is round 80-130 ms.

If you aren't bothered by those issues, then fine for you, but for me it is starting to get on my nerves to do any PvE related in this game.

//RexyCat

Nemesis7884 · July 2019

listen you younglings, i remember a time when most online games lagged like this!! It was the time when modems made weird noises before you could log in and your parents got angry because they couldn't use the telephone anymore!

Dusk_Coven · July 2019

For my specific case (my ISP connection to ESO, my hardware, my ping, etcetera), ESO actually does pretty well. Alik'r Dolmens I get lower fps and higher ping but still doable at near-max graphics settings.

In SWTOR, 24 people with no pets no mounts and some voluntary graphics settings lowering, fighting ONE NPC boss in an open PvP instance... just that can cause unacceptable lag for some people.

Aznarb · July 2019

Any other games lag as bad as ESO ?

Archeage.

Hope ZoS don't plan to end like AA..