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Why can’t we leave well enough alone?

  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    The drama around here like.
    “Having to Re-learn the whole game every three months”
    “The game is being destroyed”
    “Continuously ruining the game”

    Not to mention calling out devs by name telling them you know how to do their job better than them. It’s childish. And people will still expect to be taken seriously!!? Amazing.

    Listen dude, im paying money (and not only me, every player does) so we need to have fun in game. And i dont give a [removed profanity] what you or devs think is right.
    Who pays money has the right to tell

    If your not having fun, stop paying. If your not having fun, stop playing. There are a ton of other games to play. It is all right to play them, you don't have to keep playing this one.
    Edited by ZOS_JesC on July 15, 2019 5:36PM
  • leepalmer95
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    Skoomah wrote: »
    The changes to the game are so frequent and drastic. Every 3 months, we have to figure out how to play this game again like a newb.
    THIS. The development of the game seems looks like pure luck of the draw.

    Example:

    PetSorcs were trash in PvP for years. Powerless and NOT FUN AT ALL.
    Then they gave pets power. THEY WERE FUN TO PLAY.
    Then they removed the Overload bar, so that PetsSorcs struggle with Slot space. HARD TO PLAY.
    Then they butcher shields. OK TO PLAY.
    Now they butcher pets again. FINALLY PETSORCS ARE DEAD. WORSE THAN EVER BEFORE:
    POWERLESS PETS - NO BAR SPACE - SHIELDS LOW POWER AND EXPENSIVE

    No matter if Warden, Necro or now Sorc.
    Every magicka toon I made ends up becoming a Stamina toon to stay competitive.
    "Play Stamina or get out of PvP." This development SUCKS.

    I am fed up playing Stamina. Every class feels the same. ESO Plus subscription cancelled.

    So pets are only fun when they're so OP they carry you?

    The mechnaics are all the same, if you enjoyed pets for being pets you'll still enjoy them. If you enjoy them because they're OP and allowed you to do things in pve/ pvp you shouldn't then no you won't enjoy the nerf.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • Skoomah
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    And why do we keep coming back even though these things infuriate us? Because the game is so damn good “when it works”. Because of the combat system. The deep theorycrafting for so many different modes of play (solo, small group, raid, Cyrodiil, BG modes) and so many factors and selections that make up player power (class, race, skills, item sets, traits, glyphs, food/drink, attributes, mundus stone, potions, poisons, group composition, counterplay, etc.). The reward you get for “Skill and Experience”.

    When Cyrodiil battles involve three faction 100+ player keep sieges. It is a glorious and incredibly fun time. — Not when lagging and disconnecting from the server. —

    When you grab some friends and go up against another team in Battlegrounds and duke it out in highly strategic and skillful play. One set of masterful theorycrafters against another. — Not when waiting 30 minutes between each match, and then not filling up, and waiting in the lobby until you finally exit the match because it won’t start, and get hit with 15 minute deserter penalty. —

    Love this game. But it only works half the time...
  • Sephyr
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    The drama around here like.
    “Having to Re-learn the whole game every three months”
    “The game is being destroyed”
    “Continuously ruining the game”

    Not to mention calling out devs by name telling them you know how to do their job better than them. It’s childish. And people will still expect to be taken seriously!!? Amazing.

    Listen dude, im paying money (and not only me, every player does) so we need to have fun in game. And i dont give a fu.k what you or devs think is right.
    Who pays money has the right to tell

    If your not having fun, stop paying. If your not having fun, stop playing. There are a ton of other games to play. It is all right to play them, you don't have to keep playing this one.

    Dude, stop making me love you.
  • miteba
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    Completely agree with @Skoomah!

    Since skills were revised last DLC, and this one is more oriented for passives… next step i really hope Dev's focus will be around server performance and fixing skills, which (some) don't work as intended for years now.

    IMO this game can survive many more years if they begin to address these things..
    You really have been very lucky that no other great AAA MMO has been launched in the last 2 years, because i have a feeling that our population would vanish quickly, and you know the outcome to that…
    EDIT: Same way we saw an recently increase of our playerbase from WoW specifically

    Edited by miteba on July 15, 2019 11:52AM
  • robpr
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    Either homogenisation or balance. Can't have both.
    Also by changing how skills work (dot tick rate) it eases the server stress


    What's wrong with "relearning" the game from time to time? Keeps things fresh and prevent burnouts. I was positively surprised with mDK Fiery Grip rotation.

  • miteba
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    robpr wrote: »
    Either homogenisation or balance. Can't have both.
    Also by changing how skills work (dot tick rate) it eases the server stress

    Real balance will always be a mirage… so we want homogenisation obviously with the best "balance" possible.
    They can be creative off course, but they have to start addressing bad choices with more speed and not wait another 3 months to change power creeps like we have seen, with bleeds, sloads, jesus beams, etc etc ...

    robpr wrote: »
    What's wrong with "relearning" the game from time to time? Keeps things fresh and prevent burnouts. I was positively surprised with mDK Fiery Grip rotation.

    That is a really good example of recent changes, but how many more can you give? Its one vs 20 bad ones...
    And how many of the bad changes "almost destroyed" class identity?

    Relearn and evolve is great but sometimes it seems they change only for this objective:
    Artemiisia wrote: »
    It’s quite simple: They do this so people have to grind new gear again, it started around when they locked gear to cp160

    Edited by miteba on July 15, 2019 12:05PM
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