If you can't get them, then you don't need them. It's something you'd need for harder content than that.

Stick to normal stuff and you'll be fine. Next thing you'll see is people asking for buyable perfected gear.

No. vMA is easy enough. If you can't beat it, then you don't need the weapons.

Having said that, they should be purchasable with some kind of special vMA tokens. 20 tokens gets you a weapon of your choice. You get 1 token every time you complete vMA.

Crixus8000 wrote: »

I would love different options to buy some of the weapon sets. Especially as a pvp player. I have done vma and vdsa, but I can never find a group for even normal asylum, and not through lack of trying. So it's very frustrating that certain weapons are just unobtainable for me because I don't have a dedicated pve guild.

There's a guild finder now. Most pve guilds post what they run in their guild notes; including which trials they favor.

grkkll wrote: »

All this "you gotta earn it" really boils my pish. Why? Why do you have to earn it? Some of us have disabilities that prevent us from weaving our way through VMA just to get the weapon that we don't want. This isn't work, it'supposed to be fun..... Where's the fun in running ragged and inflaming already arthritic joints and ongoing RSI to probably not get the weapon you want, cos the game is coded not to give the Stam dd a bow or a mag dd the shock staff. Life is just a game but this game..... or the way its played is sometimes just too damn serious

You don't need to light attack weave to get through VMA. You don't even need a rotation... There's plenty of heavy attack sorcerer builds that make it through just fine. Plus, you can always go in as Magicka DK and literally spam burning embers and drop wall of elements when it falls off. Superb self heal plus it does good enough damage . You don't even need to equip a shield.

Someone told me that after the new patch hits, vMA weapons will be useless anyway. Not sure what to think.

Absolutely dreadful idea. I worked really hard to master VMA, and you want to buy those weaps for something as low as a handful of easy-to-faceroll undaunted keys?? How insulting. I firmly suggest you put in as many hours as everyone else who has actually earned their weapons did to find a build that works for you, learn the different fights and go through the awesome and heart-racing experiences VMA has to offer.

i can run vMA how many times i want and when i want

what is needed actually, are vDSA purchasable weapons. It's hard to find a group and you have high chances that the group is low. This arena also takes longer. Instead of a weapon it should give a Boethia's Champion token or something which you can use to buy a weapon.

Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »

Only if I can also trade undaunted keys for alliance war skill levels

Nah skilllvls arent the issue...how bout we can buy ranks...PVP rank 50 easy cheesy, if so then we might have a deal ;P

Huyen wrote: »

Everyone is saying you dont need decent dps to clear it. I dare those people to try it as tank or healer. I dont mean the dps hybrids, but full 100% specced. Then we'll talk again. Also I do run trials, but I despise the stress vMA poses.

wheres is the difference, just change CPs grab some DPS gear like Julianos and False god, pick up some DPS skills...on templar you jus tneed ritual, BoL, Jabs, Blockade, ele Drain and Destro ult and you can 1bar it....m,aybe not the fastest way, but doable

noone is running vMA specced as tank or healer, since changeing the specs (CP, gear and skills) is soo easy.

You need to be able to pull 9-10k Single target DPS to clear vMA comfortably, 12-15k to make it a little easier, 20k to make it stupidly easy, anything over 30k, and you likely don't have issues running vMA.

Lower your DPS, higher your self heal and resource management needs to be, because you'll be on each stage longer (Burst monster sets, like Valkyn, can help with this).

Either way, the basics remain the same, and even put a short-form for it below.

grkkll wrote: »

All this "you gotta earn it" really boils my pish. Why? Why do you have to earn it? Some of us have disabilities that prevent us from weaving our way through VMA just to get the weapon that we don't want. This isn't work, it'supposed to be fun..... Where's the fun in running ragged and inflaming already arthritic joints and ongoing RSI to probably not get the weapon you want, cos the game is coded not to give the Stam dd a bow or a mag dd the shock staff. Life is just a game but this game..... or the way its played is sometimes just too damn serious

....I have RA, I can run through vMA in under a hour, on a good day, otherwise I just take breaks between stages, and that's with a standard keyboard and regular old 5 button mouse, nothing special or optimized, no add-ons besides Combat Metrics and Action Duration Reminder (which isn't all that helpful in vMA).

Weaving isn't needed in vMA at all.

There is no HUGE DPS race in it; if you can do 9-10k DPS, that's enough to clear the mobs comfortably, 12-15k if you want to go in over-qualified. That's it. Executes are helpful, but not necessary.

Slot a heal, slot some DoTs, slot a shield (optional), and slug your way through it. While there are a few good guides and walkthroughs posted for it, here is an overly simplified one.

Stage 1: Stay Alive, DPS. The end.

Stage 2: Have a good burst heal or shield+HoT. Use a ranged attack and dots to knock down the mobs while staying relatively static. When hit by a blade, just heal and go on. Use the healing sigil if necessary.

Stage 3: A gapcloser helps you jump island to island to avoid standing in stupid (red). Kill stranglers, DPS rest. AoE skills and ranged helpful.

Stage 4: DPS. Kill the little bug-eye charger before it sets down and sets out its shock field. If you can't, no worries, just knock through its shield. Use the healing and power sigil if needed. For Boss, HoTs are helpful---stand under it and damage while it is walking, step back and use DoTs while it's spouting flames. If you didn't need healing sigil before, use it here for an easier time.

Stage 5: Ranged Interrupt + Gapcloser. Order of kills: Trolls that hit platforms. Archers. Wraiths. End boss. End boss DPS Triggers are in 25% increments. Work her down until she's 2-3% above the trigger, then drop a DoT on her and rush to next platform. Priority doesn't change, and of course, don't stand in red. Takes a little bit of practice, and sometimes may need to lower your DPS so you don't mess yourself up and burn before you can get to next platform.

Stage 6: ranged poke a Horvoar to bring it to a post, kill it to clear the post. Lurchers, Golems, etc. Just kill with AoEs and a bit of movement (not even running, just moving). Swarmers, a bit annoying, I usually just kite them around for a little so I don't have to waste resources, because they hit decently and are a Swarm. Yeah, that's right -- you can actually kite them while killing everything else, if you don't want to harass the placement on bugs and killing webspinners too much. Otherwise, just walk them into a glowing stone. For the boss, higher your AoE DPS is the easier, otherwise just try to get those obelisks clear, and trigger the stun (by having 5 clear) at 50% HP. Save DPS ults for that point if at all possible.

Stage 7: Poison Pods and Archers are the biggest threat. So just watch the poison pods (the red expands fast). If you get hit, get to the nearest green cleanse at top/bottom of map. Can save yourself a little effort by fighting near one. Target priority: Archers. Have a ranged interrupt to knock them out of Aim, anything else just move out of. Use the Shield sigil if needed (will reflect the attack back on them). End boss: Do NOT interrupt him or his buddies. Kill one of his friends, will make him start his roar. Stand in shield of the other. Apply DoTs on him while he's throwing his tantrum, and when he's done, THEN kill the other friend and go back to the boss. Stay at max Melee range if you are melee, or just bleeds and kite him around using the kill one/dot under shield. More DPS is helpful here. If you interrupt, he will enrage and be able to one-shot, otherwise no more difficult than an overland boss. Environmental (Poison pods) really the most dangerous thing here.

Stage 8: Target Priority: Kyngalds, Healer, Warding Stones. They have a ramping damage fire baton swirl they do. It is interruptible, so your ranged interrupt or gapclose+bash is useful again. Rest is just kill it as it spawns and stay out of fire. Warding Stones become a priority target (still after Kyngalds) on Round 3, 4, and end boss: can't dps the blue warded mob until it is destroyed. Worst case scenario: DoT it while kiting. Works well on the boss too, save DPS ults for once all 3 are destroyed/boss stunned, then drop the hammer on her (Axe sigil if you want more DPS); repeat as needed. Remember, don't stand in stupid.

Stage 9: Use AoE DoTs, moving around while collecting gold ghosts to prevent mobs from getting a resistance buff. Once you have 3, you have an arena wide stun synergy you can activate. Kill archers, kill the Daedroth guard---ranged is your friend, as the most dangerous part of him is the DoT he puts on you if his fire hits you and it won't go away until he's dead. Kill summoners---ground DoTs work fine, as they are static. For boss....save DPS ult (not the Ash Titan, Voriak Solkyn). When he spawns, drop it to nail him to 70% ASAP. He goes upstairs, same idea: kill Daedroth if it spawns, look for the glowing stone on the ground: Kill one of the Clannfears on/near it to teleport upstairs.

Upstairs --- block the bosses skull attack (or use the defense sigil, it will reflect it), and knock down the stones while staying out of red. If you want the easiest time on it, kill a stone, jump down to floor, kill a clannfear, go back up, repeat until all 3 are dropped, then go down and DPS on boss again.

Same idea as earlier: kill summoners with Ground DoT, keep DoTs on boss, DPS ult saved for when you can hit him, don't let him get gold ghosts. Only limit to how long this fight takes is how well you handle the mechanics and your resource management.

Crafted Gear suggestions:
Whitestrake's Retribution can be helpful, with its 30% hp trigger shield on a 15s CD. Gives you a little more room in messing up some mechanics.

Sload's Semblance can help your dps a bit, just get those DoTs set down and out and Sloads will amplify it a bit.

Twice Born Star, slot up your relevant Recovery Mundus and fill a gap: Lord for Health, Steed for speed. For magicka classes, it can actually be helpful to slot both recovery mundus so that you don't worry about being out of stam to sprint or block.

TL;DR version: vMA is possible with arthritis, partial color blindness, and other ailments I'm sure (I won't speak for ones I don't have). The bar on it isn't geared towards DPS, but towards situational awareness and tool utilization, with an emphasis on target prioritization.

With skill lines and skyshards being buyable if you have completed it, I wouldn't be surprised if VMA weapons end up in crown store if you have completed VMA on at least 1 character

How about no? I like that there are some items you have to actually earn, rather than paying your way to the top