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Rapid regen
Deathlord92
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Please please make rapid regen like vigor so it’s always on the caster. With the nerfs to shields I’m not going to lie I’m a little worried about my magblade rapid regen buff sounds good but only if I 100% get that heal please zos 🙏
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Rygonix✭✭✭✭✭I suggest making it behave like Ward Ally. You will always get the buff, and one random injured nearby ally gets a second one.Ceres Des Mortem-Dark Elf Templar, EP
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Wuuffyy✭✭✭✭✭
✭The new mag vigorWuuffyy,
WW/berserker playstyle advocate (I play ALL classes proficiently in PvP outside of WW as well)
ESO player since 2014 (Xbox and PC for PTS)
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killingspreeb16_ESO✭✭✭✭How much is rapigen regen healing in comparison to resolving vigor?
Because if the healing is basically the same but can heal two people it would be like two time better than vigor.0 -
Anyron✭✭✭✭✭
✭killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »How much is rapigen regen healing in comparison to resolving vigor?
Because if the healing is basically the same but can heal two people it would be like two time better than vigor.
before, RR wasn't even close to vigor on live. now vigor is buffed by 85% and RR by 98% which makes vigor still better than RR
single target RR is better even for mag builds I think. and many of them want it.Edited by Anyron on July 13, 2019 3:12PM1 -
Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Don’t forget that Vigor is way cheaper than Regeneration and doesn’t require you to equip a specific weapon to be used.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -6 -
delichon✭✭Yeah, I agree. It can be just like vigor: one morph for self healing and another one for healers.1
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kalunte✭✭✭✭✭when you say "vigor is stronger"' you may not be applying the 5/20% healing increase from resto passive tho*
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killingspreeb16_ESO✭✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »Don’t forget that Vigor is way cheaper than Regeneration and doesn’t require you to equip a specific weapon to be used.
I mean im saying this in every discussion but remember that magika get more healing in class skill and stamina is also forced with 2h in most build and magika get a bigger stat pool than stamina.
Also one guy was saying that the new vigor rank don't increase the heal anymore,not sure if it's true my dl connection is to slow to downloads the pts and test.
So maybe the difference is not that big to make it hit 2 player and making rapid regen too good and then nerfed.0 -
Saril_Durzam✭✭✭✭killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Don’t forget that Vigor is way cheaper than Regeneration and doesn’t require you to equip a specific weapon to be used.
I mean im saying this in every discussion but remember that magika get more healing in class skill and stamina is also forced with 2h in most build and magika get a bigger stat pool than stamina.
Also one guy was saying that the new vigor rank don't increase the heal anymore,not sure if it's true my dl connection is to slow to downloads the pts and test.
So maybe the difference is not that big to make it hit 2 player and making rapid regen too good and then nerfed.
A DPS forced to use a DPS weapon is a thing, and a DPS forced to use a Healing weapon is another thing. I know, i know, in PvP this can work, but in PvE is not feasible.
Vigor and RR are 2 very diff things, the 1st one is a heal that most everyone will slot, and the 2nd one is a healers or Pvpers toolkit.0 -
killingspreeb16_ESO✭✭✭✭Saril_Durzam wrote: »killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Don’t forget that Vigor is way cheaper than Regeneration and doesn’t require you to equip a specific weapon to be used.
I mean im saying this in every discussion but remember that magika get more healing in class skill and stamina is also forced with 2h in most build and magika get a bigger stat pool than stamina.
Also one guy was saying that the new vigor rank don't increase the heal anymore,not sure if it's true my dl connection is to slow to downloads the pts and test.
So maybe the difference is not that big to make it hit 2 player and making rapid regen too good and then nerfed.
A DPS forced to use a DPS weapon is a thing, and a DPS forced to use a Healing weapon is another thing. I know, i know, in PvP this can work, but in PvE is not feasible.
Vigor and RR are 2 very diff things, the 1st one is a heal that most everyone will slot, and the 2nd one is a healers or Pvpers toolkit.
Again you can't leave out the fact that magika class got heal/shield in class kit stamina on the other hand...
Yes i speak from pvp perspective mostly,the only pve i do is the veteran dungeon for keys and if i need a monster helm so im not in the position to talk much about pve,but healer in pve are there for a reason no?
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Insco851✭✭✭✭✭
✭killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »Saril_Durzam wrote: »killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Don’t forget that Vigor is way cheaper than Regeneration and doesn’t require you to equip a specific weapon to be used.
I mean im saying this in every discussion but remember that magika get more healing in class skill and stamina is also forced with 2h in most build and magika get a bigger stat pool than stamina.
Also one guy was saying that the new vigor rank don't increase the heal anymore,not sure if it's true my dl connection is to slow to downloads the pts and test.
So maybe the difference is not that big to make it hit 2 player and making rapid regen too good and then nerfed.
A DPS forced to use a DPS weapon is a thing, and a DPS forced to use a Healing weapon is another thing. I know, i know, in PvP this can work, but in PvE is not feasible.
Vigor and RR are 2 very diff things, the 1st one is a heal that most everyone will slot, and the 2nd one is a healers or Pvpers toolkit.
Again you can't leave out the fact that magika class got heal/shield in class kit stamina on the other hand...
Yes i speak from pvp perspective mostly,the only pve i do is the veteran dungeon for keys and if i need a monster helm so im not in the position to talk much about pve,but healer in pve are there for a reason no?
Heals- yes but Stam gets native access to mass dodge roll which is the “shield” part of your comparison.
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✭✭✭killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »Saril_Durzam wrote: »killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Don’t forget that Vigor is way cheaper than Regeneration and doesn’t require you to equip a specific weapon to be used.
I mean im saying this in every discussion but remember that magika get more healing in class skill and stamina is also forced with 2h in most build and magika get a bigger stat pool than stamina.
Also one guy was saying that the new vigor rank don't increase the heal anymore,not sure if it's true my dl connection is to slow to downloads the pts and test.
So maybe the difference is not that big to make it hit 2 player and making rapid regen too good and then nerfed.
A DPS forced to use a DPS weapon is a thing, and a DPS forced to use a Healing weapon is another thing. I know, i know, in PvP this can work, but in PvE is not feasible.
Vigor and RR are 2 very diff things, the 1st one is a heal that most everyone will slot, and the 2nd one is a healers or Pvpers toolkit.
Again you can't leave out the fact that magika class got heal/shield in class kit stamina on the other hand...
Yes i speak from pvp perspective mostly,the only pve i do is the veteran dungeon for keys and if i need a monster helm so im not in the position to talk much about pve,but healer in pve are there for a reason no?
Stamina has additional blocks and dodges. Vigor will always be more powerful if you want it to, as you can put it on a weapon bar with damage passives, where RR is bound to a weak resto.
In PvE, even DDs need a couple tools to stay alive. Magicka slots shields, stamina heals - like Vigor.3 -
Excaltic✭✭✭ZOS will -HAVE- to make this skill caster PLUS 1 additional ally.
If not, this skill is TOTALLY useless in PvP.
Good luck healing yourself when 8 people around you are receiving random heals from you and YOU are not healed... lol...
Yeah, ZOS -NEEDS- to change this to 1+1 instead of 1 random.5 -
OrphanHelgen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This patch everything is already as equal as it can be, how you want more equal? Stamina and magicka is pretty much merged alreadyPC, EU server, Ebonheart Pact
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killingspreeb16_ESO✭✭✭✭killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »Saril_Durzam wrote: »killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Don’t forget that Vigor is way cheaper than Regeneration and doesn’t require you to equip a specific weapon to be used.
I mean im saying this in every discussion but remember that magika get more healing in class skill and stamina is also forced with 2h in most build and magika get a bigger stat pool than stamina.
Also one guy was saying that the new vigor rank don't increase the heal anymore,not sure if it's true my dl connection is to slow to downloads the pts and test.
So maybe the difference is not that big to make it hit 2 player and making rapid regen too good and then nerfed.
A DPS forced to use a DPS weapon is a thing, and a DPS forced to use a Healing weapon is another thing. I know, i know, in PvP this can work, but in PvE is not feasible.
Vigor and RR are 2 very diff things, the 1st one is a heal that most everyone will slot, and the 2nd one is a healers or Pvpers toolkit.
Again you can't leave out the fact that magika class got heal/shield in class kit stamina on the other hand...
Yes i speak from pvp perspective mostly,the only pve i do is the veteran dungeon for keys and if i need a monster helm so im not in the position to talk much about pve,but healer in pve are there for a reason no?
Stamina has additional blocks and dodges. Vigor will always be more powerful if you want it to, as you can put it on a weapon bar with damage passives, where RR is bound to a weak resto.
In PvE, even DDs need a couple tools to stay alive. Magicka slots shields, stamina heals - like Vigor.
I can't really agree on resto staff to be weak i find it good and usefull it's on all my magika char,just like 2h is on all my stamina char they are good for different things(and cover the need of different playstyle),next patch the resto staff(imo) is going to be even better with rapid regen.
Anyway if someone can provide the tooltip of in game rapid regen vs resolving vigor it would be good and usefull for all.
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What is mass dodge roll? I mean yeah if you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball, but you still cant dodge an AOE... I say make RR heal caster and one or two allies, bears testing.killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »Saril_Durzam wrote: »killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Don’t forget that Vigor is way cheaper than Regeneration and doesn’t require you to equip a specific weapon to be used.
I mean im saying this in every discussion but remember that magika get more healing in class skill and stamina is also forced with 2h in most build and magika get a bigger stat pool than stamina.
Also one guy was saying that the new vigor rank don't increase the heal anymore,not sure if it's true my dl connection is to slow to downloads the pts and test.
So maybe the difference is not that big to make it hit 2 player and making rapid regen too good and then nerfed.
A DPS forced to use a DPS weapon is a thing, and a DPS forced to use a Healing weapon is another thing. I know, i know, in PvP this can work, but in PvE is not feasible.
Vigor and RR are 2 very diff things, the 1st one is a heal that most everyone will slot, and the 2nd one is a healers or Pvpers toolkit.
Again you can't leave out the fact that magika class got heal/shield in class kit stamina on the other hand...
Yes i speak from pvp perspective mostly,the only pve i do is the veteran dungeon for keys and if i need a monster helm so im not in the position to talk much about pve,but healer in pve are there for a reason no?
Heals- yes but Stam gets native access to mass dodge roll which is the “shield” part of your comparison.
Edited by ProzTh3Almighty on July 13, 2019 4:15PM0 -
Insco851✭✭✭✭✭
✭ProzTh3Almighty wrote: »What is mass dodge roll? I mean yeah if you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball, but you still cant dodge an AOE... I say make RR heal caster and one or two allies, bears testing.killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »Saril_Durzam wrote: »killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Don’t forget that Vigor is way cheaper than Regeneration and doesn’t require you to equip a specific weapon to be used.
I mean im saying this in every discussion but remember that magika get more healing in class skill and stamina is also forced with 2h in most build and magika get a bigger stat pool than stamina.
Also one guy was saying that the new vigor rank don't increase the heal anymore,not sure if it's true my dl connection is to slow to downloads the pts and test.
So maybe the difference is not that big to make it hit 2 player and making rapid regen too good and then nerfed.
A DPS forced to use a DPS weapon is a thing, and a DPS forced to use a Healing weapon is another thing. I know, i know, in PvP this can work, but in PvE is not feasible.
Vigor and RR are 2 very diff things, the 1st one is a heal that most everyone will slot, and the 2nd one is a healers or Pvpers toolkit.
Again you can't leave out the fact that magika class got heal/shield in class kit stamina on the other hand...
Yes i speak from pvp perspective mostly,the only pve i do is the veteran dungeon for keys and if i need a monster helm so im not in the position to talk much about pve,but healer in pve are there for a reason no?
Heals- yes but Stam gets native access to mass dodge roll which is the “shield” part of your comparison.
Compared to mag toons 1 or 2 (that have to be used strategic or you die) - yes, mass dodge rolls.
Mass: large quantity, amount, or number.Edited by Insco851 on July 13, 2019 5:45PM0 -
ProzTh3Almighty✭✭✭ProzTh3Almighty wrote: »What is mass dodge roll? I mean yeah if you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball, but you still cant dodge an AOE... I say make RR heal caster and one or two allies, bears testing.killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »Saril_Durzam wrote: »killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Don’t forget that Vigor is way cheaper than Regeneration and doesn’t require you to equip a specific weapon to be used.
I mean im saying this in every discussion but remember that magika get more healing in class skill and stamina is also forced with 2h in most build and magika get a bigger stat pool than stamina.
Also one guy was saying that the new vigor rank don't increase the heal anymore,not sure if it's true my dl connection is to slow to downloads the pts and test.
So maybe the difference is not that big to make it hit 2 player and making rapid regen too good and then nerfed.
A DPS forced to use a DPS weapon is a thing, and a DPS forced to use a Healing weapon is another thing. I know, i know, in PvP this can work, but in PvE is not feasible.
Vigor and RR are 2 very diff things, the 1st one is a heal that most everyone will slot, and the 2nd one is a healers or Pvpers toolkit.
Again you can't leave out the fact that magika class got heal/shield in class kit stamina on the other hand...
Yes i speak from pvp perspective mostly,the only pve i do is the veteran dungeon for keys and if i need a monster helm so im not in the position to talk much about pve,but healer in pve are there for a reason no?
Heals- yes but Stam gets native access to mass dodge roll which is the “shield” part of your comparison.
Compared to mag toons 1 or 2 (that have to be used strategic or you die) - yes, mass dodge rolls.
Mass: large quantity, amount, or number.
Yeah. Let me check something real quick on Google......OK ...Nope.... Yeah you used “mass” wrong there...0 -
Insco851✭✭✭✭✭
✭ProzTh3Almighty wrote: »ProzTh3Almighty wrote: »What is mass dodge roll? I mean yeah if you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball, but you still cant dodge an AOE... I say make RR heal caster and one or two allies, bears testing.killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »Saril_Durzam wrote: »killingspreeb16_ESO wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Don’t forget that Vigor is way cheaper than Regeneration and doesn’t require you to equip a specific weapon to be used.
I mean im saying this in every discussion but remember that magika get more healing in class skill and stamina is also forced with 2h in most build and magika get a bigger stat pool than stamina.
Also one guy was saying that the new vigor rank don't increase the heal anymore,not sure if it's true my dl connection is to slow to downloads the pts and test.
So maybe the difference is not that big to make it hit 2 player and making rapid regen too good and then nerfed.
A DPS forced to use a DPS weapon is a thing, and a DPS forced to use a Healing weapon is another thing. I know, i know, in PvP this can work, but in PvE is not feasible.
Vigor and RR are 2 very diff things, the 1st one is a heal that most everyone will slot, and the 2nd one is a healers or Pvpers toolkit.
Again you can't leave out the fact that magika class got heal/shield in class kit stamina on the other hand...
Yes i speak from pvp perspective mostly,the only pve i do is the veteran dungeon for keys and if i need a monster helm so im not in the position to talk much about pve,but healer in pve are there for a reason no?
Heals- yes but Stam gets native access to mass dodge roll which is the “shield” part of your comparison.
Compared to mag toons 1 or 2 (that have to be used strategic or you die) - yes, mass dodge rolls.
Mass: large quantity, amount, or number.
Yeah. Let me check something real quick on Google......OK ...Nope.... Yeah you used “mass” wrong there...
Ah okay English professor. Gg on the google search!
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✭✭✭✭✭OrphanHelgen wrote: »This patch everything is already as equal as it can be, how you want more equal? Stamina and magicka is pretty much merged already
LOL, WHAT? This is pretty much the opposite of the truth. The gap between magicka and stamina is only getting worse. Rapid Regen got a decent buff, but Vigor is going to be like having the Resto ultimate on demand. Stamina builds will be unkillable.#CAREBEARMASTERRACE2 -
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✭✭Deathlord92 wrote: »Please please make rapid regen like vigor so it’s always on the caster. With the nerfs to shields I’m not going to lie I’m a little worried about my magblade rapid regen buff sounds good but only if I 100% get that heal please zos 🙏
Better make it like vigor!1
