There are a few variables to the answer.

Maths wise, In case you didn't know ~3300 Crit resist is 50% Crit mitigation, 50% being base Crit. Obviously there's no elfborn CP in BG bumping it but other things can, NB, trap, etc etc

At 250ish impen an armour piece you hitting 1250 on 5 bits. So still getting Crit for about 30% damage

I'm using the Impregnable Armor set with Bone Pirate. Gold quality Impregnable Armor gives 1206 Health, 1096 Stam and Magic, and 2500 Crit resist.


It works for my stam Warden. And I do believe there is the equivalent of Bone Pirate for magic users coming in the next update.

4 impen, 1 infused, 2 Reinforced.

Works for me most of the time

And that's on. 5light, 1 med, 1heavy

Reinforced on a gold-quality heavy chest is a mere 2772*0.16 = 443. That's a measly 0.67% mitigation. Impen on the other hand would provide a whopping 3.9% mitigation towards crits.

Now these are just absolute values, not taking your existing resists/impen as a baseline for comparison (as these will vary from build to build), but you can realistically expect actual values of something like 1% vs. 3% respectively in practice. Which means impen is STILL providing more overall defence when your enemy has ~33% crit or lower higher, despite only applying to crits.

But you also have to consider the practical value of crit resistance. An extra 1% general mitigation (from reinforced) against light attacks and spammables is inconsequential, because you wouldn't have died to these in either case. It's the big, lined-up crit bursts that kill you, and impen will save you ass from those. It's hard to quantify this value numerically, but impen is far, far better in practice.

If your choice is strictly between impen & reinforced—even on a heavy chest—go with the impen. Resistances can be obtained much more cost-efficiently from heavy armor passive or the protective jewelry trait.

EDIT: 33% crit or higher

Solariken wrote: »

It's hard to put a silver bullet number on it. I have multiple no-CP non-shield builds that I run 0 impen and it works alright, but I do it at the risk of occasionally exploding in an instant.

Honestly the ideal would be 7 impen but as you said other needed stats are in rare supply in noCP.

LOL what's a "silver bullet number".

Sleezly wrote: »

Looking for opinions on no-CP BGs when using 7 tri-stat glyphs with purple food on a semi-hybrid build. Hence, extra resources all around would be nice but crit-resist is just too important to ignore.

Would it be better to go 5/2 impen/infused or a full 7 impen? Would the extra crit resist for the final two pieces make that big of a difference in terms of crit damage mitigation?

Looking to be tanky but resources are a luxury in no-CP as well.

Zero Impen. Infused and tri stat on head, legs and chest divines on the rest.

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So NBs and Templars have an additional 10% crit damage, khajiit is another 10%, shadow is (I know it was 20%) whatever value it's at now lol, and you have minor force (10% more yes?)

So some builds in no CP BG a massive crit modifier, almost doubling their damage. Someone with no crit mods has 50% crit damage.

What I'm getting at is; with full impen in no CP some players can still nuke you; however without any impen everyone can nuke you.

Go full impen, even if you don't notice a difference against an NB blowing you up, you'll notice the difference against say a Warden not blowing you up

ecru wrote: »

People with zero impen must be the people who I feel a little guilty about killing so fast. Well-fitted is fine if you're running impreg, if not, impen on everything.

It’s the people who’re 810 but on the other end of 1vX videos.

YOLO, power to them if that’s their thing, playing at a disadvantage can be fun.

raasdal wrote: »

Nice Necro.

Quick, someone snare the Blastbones.

I have all divines and infused gear on my lowbie and been doing well in bgs. Its not necessarily needed.

Yea, it’s at 50 where people unlock the skill trees and sets that give crit.

Sub-50 just have fun, at 50 1805 crit resists min (all impen). It’s really too bad they didn’t add a crit resists mundus to help new pvpers transition to pvp at 50. Maybe they’ll add it in the future.

1805 crit resists reduces crits by only 25%. NBs using minor force and the shadow mundus can hit 93% crit modifier. You just merc new players like crazy.