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Rate PTS 5.1.0 Changes

  • leepalmer95
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    Some Changes are Justified and Needed
    KurtAngle2 wrote: »
    80% of the patch is really good, only few things need a change like the Orbs thing, the Werewolf sudden nerfs and few Restoration skills that were overnerfed

    Whats up with orbs?
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • josh.lackey_ESO
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    Magicka Nerfs are Overwhelmed
    Sanguinor2 wrote: »
    Buffs to bleeds? Check
    Asinine healing changes? Check
    PvPers complaining About too much healing and vigor gets a close to 100% buff and no one minds? Check
    Players wondering what the heck Zos was smoking? Check
    Twohander nerfed and dual wield buffed, god forbid anyone run 2h in PvE? Check

    Twohander got huge buffs. Especially Momentum.
  • Sanguinor2
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    Twohander got huge buffs. Especially Momentum.

    Note the in PvE, Momentum buffs hardly matter there. The interesting Thing is how Stampede will turn out/how nerfed bow will be.
    Politeness is respecting others.
    Courage is doing what is fair.
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    Honor is keeping ones word.
  • Grandma
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    Some Changes are Justified and Needed
    biased poll is biased.
    GH / 3/04/2021 / Elemental Catalyst Necromancer
  • Ozby
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    Healing Nerfs are Overwhelmed
    the wording was a bit confusing but I'm not happy about healing springs nerf so I hope I chose the right one.
    PC NA
    Aurora Bravepaw (Healden), Basks in Fire (DKTank), Bran Artlion (Magplar), Brindel Seedthorne (Stamden WW), Brugo Gargak (Stamcro), Casimir Delmar (StamDK), Falco Bastion (Stamsorc), Fus Ro Dah (Stamplar), Gandalff the Gay (Petsorc), Jo-Qinan Betula (Magden), Laveera Hex (Magcro), Raine Whitestag (Stamden), Raised by Bears (Wardentank), Ralak Rotheart (Healcro), Selene Sunshadow MagDK), Shadow Mirage (NBTank), Slythe Rattlebone (Healplar), Ulfnor Dragonslayer (Tankcro).
  • Ozby
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    Healing Nerfs are Overwhelmed
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    Pr0Skygon wrote: »
    43% voted on the negative side, but only 1 comment from that side, and it barely state any reason at all.

    I believe leaked patch notes create this havoc and ZOS need to provide more Pros and Cons type of analysis with nerfs and changes

    Mostly players are just angry over nerfs without having good understanding of that change

    I now understand why they were leaked in the first place.
    PC NA
    Aurora Bravepaw (Healden), Basks in Fire (DKTank), Bran Artlion (Magplar), Brindel Seedthorne (Stamden WW), Brugo Gargak (Stamcro), Casimir Delmar (StamDK), Falco Bastion (Stamsorc), Fus Ro Dah (Stamplar), Gandalff the Gay (Petsorc), Jo-Qinan Betula (Magden), Laveera Hex (Magcro), Raine Whitestag (Stamden), Raised by Bears (Wardentank), Ralak Rotheart (Healcro), Selene Sunshadow MagDK), Shadow Mirage (NBTank), Slythe Rattlebone (Healplar), Ulfnor Dragonslayer (Tankcro).
  • redspecter23
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    Some Changes are Justified and Needed
    I'm actually in favor of a large majority of the changes.

    However, sometimes things that are done with the best of intentions and are potentially good on paper are horrible once executed. Any changes this divisive should be examined very carefully. If good intentions lead to another mass exodus of players, it's not really worth it.
    Edited by redspecter23 on July 12, 2019 3:09AM
  • Kova
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    Just another rework to artificially extend time spent in the game.
    EP Sorc: Aydinn
    AD Stamplar: Verdant`Knight
    DC Stamblade: Apple`Punch
    EP Stam Sorc: Kós
    AD DragonKnight: Transmigrant
    EP NIghtblade: Aydinn
  • Banana
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    Adapt or move on.
  • Aznarb
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    Some Changes are Justified and Needed
    I'll adapt, my build is already ready to use.
    But some class can't really adapt as healer tbh, and it's were they have fail with this patch.
    Hope they rework some skill of NB-DK-Sorc so they've class option to heal/support.
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  • Elusiin
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    Shield and Sword/Dual Wield/2h/Bow/Destro and Restro Nerfs are Unfair
    I like the revitalizing of old spells like volcanic rune and soul trap, but the nerfs to range CC is ridiculous and will kill ranged gameplay. Melee DoTs stackers are already meta, and now bow and stave users are being forced into melee range to get restroyed by them. They already have gap closers, I do not understand why the nerf to RANGE for RANGED BUILDS. Makes me want to quit the game again. -_-
  • HaemaMagus
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    Healing Nerfs are Overwhelmed
    Healers were already making the complaints that class diversity and the feeling that they weren't needed in content were issues. These changes do not address these at all and I personally want at least Grand Healing reverted.
    Dunmer Templar Healer
    Bosmer Nightblade Healer
    Dunmer Sorcerer Healer
  • Deep_01
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    Eclipse change is scary. Rest is fine.
    @Deepan on PC-EU
  • JinMori
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    I think this is the nail in the coffin for me, i haven;t been playing eso for at least 1 and a half months now, and these patch notes do not sit right me with me at all, so i guess that's it. Maybe in a year if the game gets better and they start addressing the actual problems of the game.
  • Ysbriel
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    It's a Dam Nuke Dropped Overnight
    On PTS already lost 3k Dps on my Stamsorc, Gulildmates lost 3k DPS already on Petsorc and StamDk. The one orb deal was awful one the One run i could land in the new dungeons when it came to the one of the bosses in particular so a lot of dps was lost there. Tanking hasn’t suffered at least IF certain numbers and sets i will keep to myself in fear of nerfidom.
  • SaintSubwayy
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    Some Changes are Justified and Needed
    some changes are actually really great, like the orb change, which boosts sustain for healers quite hard, cause they dont have to cast 4-5 orbs, but only one every 18-20sec

    other changes like the massive caltrop nerf might be a bit overkill for PVE, but on the flipside it now also gives all stamina builds a option to apply major fracture, which no weaponskillline (besides SnB) provides, so any weapons can be used, and you still have access to fracture.

    other changes like Healing springs are kinda 50/50, they help sustain, yet render vDSA resto pretty much useless, and dont accomodate for high healingphases like soultear on Navintas or vCR+3 execute, where the heeling is essential for completion.
    Edited by SaintSubwayy on July 12, 2019 8:06AM
    PC EU
    vAA HM / vHRC HM / vSO HM / vMoL HM / vHoF HM / vAS HM / vCR HM / vSS HM / vKA HM

    Flawless Conqueror / Immortal Redeemer / Dawnbringer / Griphon Heart / Master Angler / Spirit Slayer

  • p_tsakirisb16_ESO
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    Veiled Heritance nerf is unjustified for a set that exists 4 years now.
    Sure ZOS nerfed 3 other heavy damage sets also, but why not nerf then Advancing Yokeda? Is a heavy set also after all.
  • SaintSubwayy
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    Veiled Heritance nerf is unjustified for a set that exists 4 years now.
    Sure ZOS nerfed 3 other heavy damage sets also, but why not nerf then Advancing Yokeda? Is a heavy set also after all.

    maybe cause AY aint Meta anymore?
    and it was only used in PVE Endgame, so theres no real balance issue....1 set will always be the strongest, thats jsut how PVE endgame works.
    PC EU
    vAA HM / vHRC HM / vSO HM / vMoL HM / vHoF HM / vAS HM / vCR HM / vSS HM / vKA HM

    Flawless Conqueror / Immortal Redeemer / Dawnbringer / Griphon Heart / Master Angler / Spirit Slayer

  • Dark_Lord_Kuro
    Dark_Lord_Kuro
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    Some Changes are Justified and Needed
    While i dont like them(a nerf isnt fun needed or not) but i do see the logic behind most of it
  • Lord_Eomer
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    Some Changes are Justified and Needed
    While i dont like them(a nerf isnt fun needed or not) but i do see the logic behind most of it

    But sometime skills or combination of skills overperform.

    I run mag sorc and players are almost unable to kill me...
  • Baphomet
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    It's a Dam Nuke Dropped Overnight
    A few good changes and a whole lot of bad ones.

    This is one of the worste and most disruptive patches since the very first stress test, alas.
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  • Shantu
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    It's a Dam Nuke Dropped Overnight
    Seriously, after 2-1/2 years of playing daily all this patch does is make me want to find some other form of entertainment that's more fun and rewarding....which is a sentiment I'm consistently hearing in my guilds. This is a BIG mistake.
  • JackDaniell
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    Its like a potato salad, but instead of adding potatos we got shi*.
    Ebonheart Templar

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  • jcm2606
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    Some Changes are Justified and Needed
    Some of these changes are great, some are just good. Some are bad, some are garbage. Most are just meh.
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