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Nightblades Power Extraction (Looks good, but should offer a bit more)

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actosh
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@ZOS_Gilliam @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_GinaBruno

Hey, first of all i wanna say thanks to finaly listen to the suggestion that nb Tanks have voiced often enough (making power extraction drain wep dmg).

It´s clearly aimed at pve from my understanding since mobs only have Wep dmg. Actually there seems to be a little bug or mistake since the notes stated it should be 300, but ingame its only 200 in the tooltip. Had no time to test against another player so please take a look if it applies the 300Correct.

Now to the suggestion: PE should transfer a bit of the drained power to your allies in a at least 12Meter Radius(more would be better^^).
This would give nb Tanks at least a bit of offensive grp utility.

Values should be figured out by the ZOS Guys/Girls but something around 100-150Wep/Spelldmg applied to allies would make the skill really cool.
It could aswell just apply Minor Courage to allies in a huge radius.

Another way could be to add a synergy to the skill and upon activation it transfers the wep/spelldmg to allies.
This would be the most awesome way to do it, we would finaly be getting a synergie as NB´s and offer something else to the grp beside the wepcrit.

However, we need a synergie for the grp.

Have a nice day.
Edited by actosh on July 11, 2019 7:21PM
  • John_Falstaff
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    I'm absolutely for it. I won't even mind losing Power Extraction as a spammable (right now it makes for an excellent AoE spammable - too good to be true, I enjoyed it while it lasted, though had a feeling it's going to be nerfed), but NBs could always use having more group utility. Debuffing mobs for 300 WD and increasing allies' WD / SD by half (or even one-third) of that sounds like a nice, unique thing to have.

    Granted, all classes already have 'group buffs', but if you're turning Power Extraction into an utility skill tailored for support roles, giving it both AoE debuff and group buff would make NB tanks stand out. And yes, it's a good candidate for - finally - a group synergy that wouldn't be tied to an ultimate.
    Edited by John_Falstaff on July 11, 2019 2:17PM
  • jypcy
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    Could also get behind this but it’d probably need to be balanced with engulfing flames in mind. I also don’t know how often it’s used as a damage skill currently but damage would probably need to be lessened or removed entirely if it will also debuff enemies, buff allies, and grant major brutality.
  • John_Falstaff
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    jypcy wrote: »
    Could also get behind this but it’d probably need to be balanced with engulfing flames in mind. I also don’t know how often it’s used as a damage skill currently but damage would probably need to be lessened or removed entirely if it will also debuff enemies, buff allies, and grant major brutality.

    It's ultra-powerful right now; the tooltip is just slightly less than Surprise Attack. Granted, on PTS, its damage is nerfed, so it will be less potent, but even though I regret losing it as a spammable option if damage is nerfed to zero (or something insignificant), I'd grumble but would say okay, as long as it gives NBs good group utility.
  • Kolzki
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    It’s a cool idea to make a skill version of mini mending or allesia’s bulwark set. I’d be pretty gutted if this skill stopped being usable as an aoe spamable though.

    I’ve been using it constantly since the thieves guild patch for anything pve outside of vet trials. I happily used it despite the cost for the brutality buff. With the weird changes to flying dagger I would use it even more now for aoe and for brutality.
  • actosh
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    The Transfered Wep/Spelldmg could be applied as minor courage. Wich i would like a lot.
  • Colecovision
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    I hope you're right and I'll have to look again. Live it's amazing, but on pts it seems weak and I just dropped it. I don't really need help with trash mob survival. Does the debuf help on bosses or are they immune? I can't dungeon test til they fix dodgeroll.
  • John_Falstaff
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    actosh wrote: »
    The Transfered Wep/Spelldmg could be applied as minor courage. Wich i would like a lot.

    I wouldn't rather do it like that, Minor Courage is already a buff given by tanks (through Yolnahkriin), shouldn't take utility from them and give it to DDs. I'd rather have it as unique buff that would stack with Courage.
    Edited by John_Falstaff on July 11, 2019 8:17PM
  • actosh
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    Colecovision wrote: »
    I hope you're right and I'll have to look again. Live it's amazing, but on pts it seems weak and I just dropped it. I don't really need help with trash mob survival. Does the debuf help on bosses or are they immune? I can't dungeon test til they fix dodgeroll.

    Applies to bosses as well, same as with mending (wich sadly doenst apply on anyboss/mechanic)

    @John_Falstaff Giving minor courage to power extraction frees up a 5piece set on the tank. Not to bad if u ask me :)
    Edited by actosh on July 11, 2019 9:30PM
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