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What is the point of playing MagSorc right now?
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Everyone knows that MagSorc has been brutally nerfed in this last update. It was no longer that strong over the last year or so anyway. Agreed that at one time it was OP and needed tweaking, and this was definitely done. But most abilities have now had dps, healing and cc reduced even further, and drastically so. And you may as well forget about PetSorcs, who have had both dps and healing viciously slashed, thus rendering PetSorcs pretty much useless.
It's almost as if a part of the population have a vendetta against Sorcs, and ZOS devs have been taken in by the persuasion. I cannot think of any other explanation why a class should be so comprehensively destroyed.
So, does MagSorc have anything to bring to the table anymore? If you were compiling a PVE group, would you include a MagSorc? What will happen if many players abandon their Sorcs due to their current unplayability? What will that do to the balance of the game?
It's almost as if a part of the population have a vendetta against Sorcs, and ZOS devs have been taken in by the persuasion. I cannot think of any other explanation why a class should be so comprehensively destroyed.
So, does MagSorc have anything to bring to the table anymore? If you were compiling a PVE group, would you include a MagSorc? What will happen if many players abandon their Sorcs due to their current unplayability? What will that do to the balance of the game?
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✭there is none with the reduced dps and survivability good luck getting invited to endgame vet trials as a mag sorc next patch stamina seems to be hitting harder and with reduced survivability sorc is a liability.
as far as PvP good sorcs will adapt like they always do I bet the first week after the patch goes live there will be plenty of moaning about nerfing sorcs and 1vX videos aplenty but unless you consider yourself in the top 1% I would just shelf the sorc this patch.Xbox One - NA GT: RebornV3x
I also play on PC from time to time but I just wanna be left alone on there so sorry.5 -
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✭✭They buffed force pulls at least, and I believe the small pet? Or I remember wrong?PC, EU server, Ebonheart Pact
Finally a reason not to play League of Legends0 -
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✭✭Pets were over performing and Magsorcs are still top class. You'll have to work just a bit more now for your kills.28 -
washbern✭✭✭✭✭After much reading and analyzing, the way I see myself playing a sorc is to have two separate builds. One build will be focused strictly on aoe and one on single target.
All classes aoe got nerfed. Winged pet I think will go into the trash bin. Soooooo probably a few skills will join it but overall it'll be a similar rotation1 -
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✭✭✭✭After much reading and analyzing, the way I see myself playing a sorc is to have two separate builds. One build will be focused strictly on aoe and one on single target.
All classes aoe got nerfed. Winged pet I think will go into the trash bin. Soooooo probably a few skills will join it but overall it'll be a similar rotation
WIthout the winged pet, with shields no better than generic ones, and Power Surge less useful than ever (since Degeneration can be run giving Major Sorcery), the sorcerer will suddenly be weak in survivability and utility. So ... pretty lame overall.
And by the way, which morph of Curse? The one that gives a decent single-target quasi-DoT, or the one that buffs one of the two significant class AoEs?0 -
washbern✭✭✭✭✭FrancisCrawford wrote: »WIthout the winged pet, with shields no better than generic ones, and Power Surge less useful than ever (since Degeneration can be run giving Major Sorcery), the sorcerer will suddenly be weak in survivability and utility. So ... pretty lame overall.
And by the way, which morph of Curse? The one that gives a decent single-target quasi-DoT, or the one that buffs one of the two significant class AoEs?
LOL! Honestly you are absolutely right. I am trying to justify keeping my Sorc instead of re-rolling into a templar. Sorc Boundless Storm and Streak are the most interesting skills it has left. Templar, on the other hand, has better shield, stronger armor, more interesting offensive skills and better heals. One look at most StamSorc builds out there is what will MagSorc will become. Guild / Weapon skills with like 2 class skills mixed in.
GOSH DARN HECK! I THINK I AM REROLLING
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✭✭Everyone knows that MagSorc has been brutally nerfed in this last update. It was no longer that strong over the last year or so anyway. Agreed that at one time it was OP and needed tweaking, and this was definitely done. But most abilities have now had dps, healing and cc reduced even further, and drastically so. And you may as well forget about PetSorcs, who have had both dps and healing viciously slashed, thus rendering PetSorcs pretty much useless.
It's almost as if a part of the population have a vendetta against Sorcs, and ZOS devs have been taken in by the persuasion. I cannot think of any other explanation why a class should be so comprehensively destroyed.
So, does MagSorc have anything to bring to the table anymore? If you were compiling a PVE group, would you include a MagSorc? What will happen if many players abandon their Sorcs due to their current unplayability? What will that do to the balance of the game?
Some MagSorcs have already tested on PTS and still reach numbers about 90k, so the nerf can't be that big.
I still think MagSorc has the big advantage that you don't have a very complicated rotation and even if you totally f*** up your rotation, you are still doing a big amount of damage. Not to forget, that you are a Range DD, which has some advantages as well.
I don't think MagSorc will be gone from the raidsetup anytime soon (depending of course on the raidleader and the ambitions).- @OrcTalk on Twitter
- ESO-Skillfactory.com[EN/DE/FR] Skillplanner/Skillplaner/Planificateur de compétences
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Welkynar✭✭✭If ZOS wants sorcerers to be even more bland and boring then fine. If the PTS patch is what we get I’m probably going to main a magden for pve dps. Wardens have a theme that is so pretty and noticeable. Or maybe magdk or magplar. Sorcerers are just way too boring now. Only thing that will keep me loyal to magsorc is pet skins, which will probably never be added. I wouldn’t even care about lower dps.2 -
washbern✭✭✭✭✭If ZOS wants sorcerers to be even more bland and boring then fine. If the PTS patch is what we get I’m probably going to main a magden for pve dps. Wardens have a theme that is so pretty and noticeable. Or maybe magdk or magplar. Sorcerers are just way too boring now. Only thing that will keep me loyal to magsorc is pet skins, which will probably never be added. I wouldn’t even care about lower dps.
Yeah, kind of this. Just watched a youtube vid of a 101k parse with a stam sorc. Want to know how many sorc skills the guy was using? 1. Could have probably easily replaced that one too. What is the point of having class skills if everything else outshines them. So frustrating. I want to play a class for class abilities not so i use LITERALLY the same abilities from weapon / guild. Feels like drinking a warm, flat Coke. Sure... it may be a Coke, but it tastes like brown water with WAY too much sugar.3 -
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✭✭So, does MagSorc have anything to bring to the table anymore? If you were compiling a PVE group, would you include a MagSorc? What will happen if many players abandon their Sorcs due to their current unplayability? What will that do to the balance of the game?
It's fun and easy.
I would prefer to party with other magsorcs.
That question is based on the premise that one is incapable of adapting to the changes, which might hold true if one isn't willing to change any aspect of their playstyle.
As long as players are willing to adapt I'm sure there will still be plenty of magsorcs completing a variety of content(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Pets- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gifElectric-Heal- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifEye of the Queen- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gifEye of the King- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »I'll give up mag Sorc when they pry my staff from my cold, dead fingers.
Switch to stamblade
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sorcerers only lost 10,000 damage per second they are still WAY too over powered and the shields are Still way too Strong from the testing i performed.
i bet when this patch goes live it will be unnoticeable that there even was any changes at all.
these nerfs are not even as strong as should be but atleast its a start in the right Direction.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭stevenyaub16_ESO wrote: »mag sorcs still pulling 90k+ on PTS.
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Adernath✭✭✭✭✭Well, I will wait and let's see.OrphanHelgen wrote: »They buffed force pulls at least
Are you aware that this is not a sorc ability?
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albertberku✭✭✭✭the main issue here: PetSorc is OP in pvp. But there are also people that play without pets. And magsorc without pets are not in a good position and they nerfed them even more. If anything, they should have just diminished the difference pets make for a sorc in pvp. For example remove the max health passive, lower the burst heal from pet, make pets untargetable, so petsorcs cant cut line of sight and attack you behind their pets. Also Streak buff was really unnecessary, it is already very strong skill. It is going to overperform now. And also about the Force Pulse, it is defacto a sorcerer ability.Edited by albertberku on July 10, 2019 10:51PM3
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Adernath✭✭✭✭✭albertberku wrote: »the main issue here: PetSorc is OP in pvp. But there are also people that play without pets. And magsorc without pets are not in a good position and they nerfed them even more. If anything, they should have just diminished the difference pets make for a sorc in pvp. For example remove the max health passive, lower the burst heal from pet, make pets untargetable, so petsorcs cant cut line of sight and attack you behind their pets. Also Streak buff was really unnecessary, it is already very strong skill. It is going to overperform now. And also about the Force Pulse, it is defacto a sorcerer ability.
Nonesense... you got owned because you are just bad in PvP and wont admit that there are very strong players out there. Play as pet sorc against one of the stamina metas and then we talk.
And the fact that you say force pulse (a destruction staff ability!) is a sorc ability is a perfect example of talking nonesense.5 -
Wandering_Immigrant✭✭✭✭If ZOS wants sorcerers to be even more bland and boring then fine. If the PTS patch is what we get I’m probably going to main a magden for pve dps. Wardens have a theme that is so pretty and noticeable. Or maybe magdk or magplar. Sorcerers are just way too boring now. Only thing that will keep me loyal to magsorc is pet skins, which will probably never be added. I wouldn’t even care about lower dps.
Yeah, kind of this. Just watched a youtube vid of a 101k parse with a stam sorc. Want to know how many sorc skills the guy was using? 1. Could have probably easily replaced that one too. What is the point of having class skills if everything else outshines them. So frustrating. I want to play a class for class abilities not so i use LITERALLY the same abilities from weapon / guild. Feels like drinking a warm, flat Coke. Sure... it may be a Coke, but it tastes like brown water with WAY too much sugar.
Totally thought you were gonna say "but it tastes like a Pepsi" at the end there. Oh well, missed opportunities.2 -
SoLooney✭✭✭✭✭They are currently the 2nd strongest mag class behind magplars. For how little effort it required to be decent in pve and pvp, it was over performing, esp that twilight pet.
Glad to see it's been nerfed and hopefully I'll see less mag sorcs running around with 1 or 2 pets taking up my frames
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✭They are currently the 2nd strongest mag class behind magplars. For how little effort it required to be decent in pve and pvp, it was over performing, esp that twilight pet.
Glad to see it's been nerfed and hopefully I'll see less mag sorcs running around with 1 or 2 pets taking up my frames
Wouldnt mind seeing this class being the lowest mag dps and being completely irrelevant
I'm sorry you feel like that.
I do agree about the pets when they are not unsummoned in town, especially the flappy twilight which drives me mad. It's one of the reasons I don't use that one. The scamp is lower profile.
However, I would never deliberately wish anybody's class to be nerfed into the ground and made completely irrelevant, whatever class it is. That's a pretty selfish and mean-minded attitude. I don't know which class you play mainly, but I hope no one ever says that about your class.13 -
washbern✭✭✭✭✭Here are my perceived issues with the sorc:
Twilight heals and does damage. You have two abilities taking up a single skill. So, the damage can't be too great and neither can the heal. Problem is that it takes up two buttons which could be occupied by better damage and better heal. To get the balance right in this circumstance is a tricky thing. Easiest way to accomplish this is by making it only take up one slot on the bar. Otherwise it is useless.
The Sorc execute starts at last 25% Granted it's a normal execute range but the ability is utilized so infrequently that it is borderline useless to have on the bar unless you know you will have a long boss fight or really tough trash.
Bound armaments is a freaking passive slot and forget.
Dps monkey doesnt do much damage while the healing dinosaur is blah.
Dedric mines is a great skill that will be impossible to maintain with the lightning flood and blockade resourse increases.
And finally, NONE of sorc abilities provide any kind of secondary bonus for a more intricate gameplay. Look at any other class. Each ability has at least one extra thing that they do. Sorc is just bland. Lower skill ceiling? Sure. But still bland.
I wouldn't mind the changes made on pts if they wouldnt have put several of our abilities into the dumpster. People pick a class to play the class. In it's current state on PTS, the sorc experience can be replicated on absolutely any other class with better results. Which begs the question asked by the op: what is the point of sorc?
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soooo the video you posted the guy is complaing a sorc crushing him with meteor because thats a sorc ability? I am confused.
The PVP Sorcs are strong and pets needed a nerf. for PVE,, the pets are pretty much sorc's identity and they have been nerfed so hard that they are not worth using in PVE vs other skills. So, the sorcs will supplement with skills that are readily available to other classes. As far as PVE goes (at least) why play sorc?3 -
BNOC✭✭✭✭✭
soooo the video you posted the guy is complaing a sorc crushing him with meteor because thats a sorc ability? I am confused.
The PVP Sorcs are strong and pets needed a nerf. for PVE,, the pets are pretty much sorc's identity and they have been nerfed so hard that they are not worth using in PVE vs other skills. So, the sorcs will supplement with skills that are readily available to other classes. As far as PVE goes (at least) why play sorc?
Are there DPS metrics available from the PTS for all classes yet?vMSA - Magplar - Xbox EU - 15/11/16
578,000 - 36 Minutes 58 Seconds (Top 2 World?)
vMSA - Magplar - Xbox NA
569,000 - 40 minutes (350CP, Non optimised runs)0 -
Anti_Virus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Mag sorc will be fine their mobility skill “bolt escape” and it’s morphs got buffed.
Sorc will finally be what it’s was meant to be a squishy glass cannon with high mobility. No more glass cannon face tanking from 40+ metersPower Wealth And Influence.2
