MollyReed94 wrote: »

Not a single person I consider a friend, is pleased about these changes. A lot of them are considering leaving the game.

Honestly, most of them were probably leaving the game soon anyway and this is just an excuse to do so and point a finger.

There is absolutely nothing in this patch worth quitting over if you truly like ESO. People come and go all the time in MMORPG's. Those that stay, stay because of the universe the game is set in and it's base gameplay.

I like it. Mixing up a stale meta is always a good thing.

Some combination of these:
Wait and see.
Grind for transmutes and tempers/rosin/wax.
Test the actual changes in actual combat on PTS...not just read tooltips in isolation or moan because dummy parses maybe lower...
Wait for Hodor to clear the new trial/dungeons on vet hardmode on PTS and watch their vids then corner the market on the latest BiS before Alcast posts it after release.
Just copy Alcast on release day.
Theorycraft a unique PvP build to suit playstyle performance and group.

ie pretty much the same as we always do.

All of my guild members have been playing since beta, only one is around occasionally now. It sucks because I have a year membership and the only time I log in is to get the daily reward and sometimes not even that. As for the patch, yeah not liking it. My guild members thought there was way too much nerfing as it was. They just constantly nerf instead of buffing other classes. This has been an ongoing thing for a long time. People get frustrated and leave the game.

Mostly good tbh.

Mostly ?
Ppl are sick of nerfs & losing class identy. They are also afraid thet playing & trying to improve will become pointless since progresdion is taken away by nerfs.

Personaly, I think that some nerfs (just a tiny portion of them) justified, but most of them are not. WW Pack Leader is a good example. Some ww nerfs are justfied, but what ZOS has done to Pack Leader is unaceptable.

SirLeeMinion wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

...whenever someone ask me for ESO I always advise against ESO and propose some other great mmo's so at all noone of my rl friends are playing ESO thanks to me

What do you like? I've been fooling around with Eve online and Warframe, but am still looking for a good replacement.

@ OP: No idea. After reading the patch notes, I dropped my trials guilds, cleared my friends list, resigned from guild officer positions and haven't done anything but clean-up inventory and collect the daily log-in reward. Most of my ESO time this week has been spent venting on the forums, and I think once I find a replacement mmorpg, I'll be done with that, too. Cheers!

WoW Classic is opening it's servers very soon. FFXIV is solid. Warframe. EQ2 if you like hopping on progression servers. ..and Pantheon (AKA EQ3) within 2 years.

As far as myself, I jump into PVP every now and then, and casually I doubt I'll see too much of a difference. The tank meta is more of a problem than anything there as far as my personal play experience is concerned, and the patch isn't doing much to address that.

For my own PVE experience, overworld will be a bit more annoying, dungeons will be harder to PUG, and I straight up am going to struggle with trials if I ever decide to do those again after these horrendous changes. My primary concern is how healing is going to simply suck for non-Templars, and require a lot more investment in healing than other abilities. My off-healer Nightblade tank (which was very difficult to build and play, but works wonders in trials) is simply dead, for example. A lot of people not on the forums I know are also really frustrated with these changes if they go through, and I know a hell of a lot of fellow console players are going to be pissed off too if the changes happen, as they don't keep up on the forums like I do.

As far as my RP guild goes, most people are annoyed at least with the patch, for their personal gameplay, but for all RP aspects I think most people are just trying to ignore the changes. I can guarantee however that the large influx of players we are having because of Elsweyr combined with the guild finder is going to all but disappear if people end up leaving the game like it looks like they will.

I'm sure a large portion of the playerbase will remain, for either being too casual to care, or too invested in the game to quit now, or some other reason, but there are a lot that will be kept from enjoying the game like they want and a good amount of new players that quit because they can't get into endgame, not for lack of understanding the confusing combat system, but for lack of good tools to help them be effective in harder content.

tl;dr As far as I can see, DPS may be potentially higher, but it's still gated to more casual players, and support is getting gutted in favor of individually OP builds. On top of that, some abilities and classes are getting nerfed such that they actually lessen balance. My and my friends' reaction to the patch? Apathy and sadness.

My good dungeon-running buddy broke the news to me, suggested we go to Runescape lol

I’m in denial, I have no idea how any mag healers will adjust AND still be a welcome addition to all PvE content... even more meta-Templars tbh.

Also: nerfing Wardens again, thanks, we were TOTALLY in need of that of all things /s

I would feel better if at least they did bug fixing patches before big gameplay changes. It gets hard to clear vDLC HM when it’s bugging out and wiping your group cuz it’s broken AF. I can’t imagine trying to do it with the new changes.

Marginis wrote: »

As far as myself, I jump into PVP every now and then, and casually I doubt I'll see too much of a difference. The tank meta is more of a problem than anything there as far as my personal play experience is concerned, and the patch isn't doing much to address that.

I've been watching this whole tanky PvP phenomenon grow too, and I used to sneer at the tanks and think "what a bunch of weak scrubs", but I've started to figure out WHY it's happening, or at least I think I might have. DMG in Cyrodil is freaking insane. DMG in the entire game is out of control. Zos just keeps pumping out sets capable of stacking more and more dmg, both buildable and in proc form, and it's too much. Playing tanky sucks. It's stupidly, mind numbingly boring and you're slow and can (unless you're stam) do almost no significant dmg. But it becomes necessary when one player can take down 20 in the span of 5 seconds with a shield bash. It becomes necessary when one player can one shot a veteran player with a decent build. It becomes necessary when someone can proc up to 10k dmg on their character sheet. The heavy armor meta isn't the cause of our problems in PvP...it's the effect of another problem, and it's one that keeps getting worse and worse as Zos keeps finding new ways to lure people into the game with flashier and more dmg intensive sets and classes with each new expansion.

Ease up on the dmg growth (and revert some of it) and the tank meta will subside naturally. Very few people actually want to play like that (let's face it...it's a pretty trash playstyle), but many are forced to if they don't want to be smashed by a cheese chasing try-hard every 30 seconds. I think reducing the amount of dmg a single player can do will also work wonders for breaking people back up into smaller groups in Cyrodil, rather than herding them into safer mega-packs.

Me and my healer friends "-_-"

Everyone else: " "

1-3 of them " op? "