Crixus8000 wrote: »

I have mentioned this in nother threads. I have no idea why so many read it and can't see how broken it is.

It hits really hard since it ignores resiststances, it hit's in an aoe and then gives you 16 seconds of ignoring everyones resistances. And since all stam players have major evasion now it means dawnbreaker will be less popular, making more people use this. I really don't think cyro will be a fun place when you have 0 physical resist against every stam player...

Exactly my point

jaws343 wrote: »

Crixus8000 wrote: »

I have mentioned this in nother threads. I have no idea why so many read it and can't see how broken it is.

It hits really hard since it ignores resiststances, it hit's in an aoe and then gives you 16 seconds of ignoring everyones resistances. And since all stam players have major evasion now it means dawnbreaker will be less popular, making more people use this. I really don't think cyro will be a fun place when you have 0 physical resist against every stam player...

This should be mitigated due to major evasion as well since it is an AOE attack now.

I don think it is. But ill test it later

Qbiken wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

some of you don't block the big boy burst lol.

The damage from the ultimate itself ain´t really the big issue, but if you face a setup running alot of bleeds/dots you´re in for a wild ride. oboi.......

the penetration would basically be tied to the hit itself. at least it should.
hot stack, purge, reposition if you lost the offensive boost, use maim/protection/crit resist/block as these are superior to resist stack as of last patch.

gotta use the counters you have and don't subscribe to outdated notions of honor (especially in duels).

it is still dodge-able. i wonder if you'll get the buffed if blocked to. need to be tested more.

Ivan04 wrote: »

I don't see how mag builds wouldn't feel forced into running the 2h ult in pvp now, in literally every situation

Only if they use heavy armor but it depends on the player. Light armor already got penetration.

Crixus8000 wrote: »

I have mentioned this in other threads. I have no idea why so many read it and can't see how broken it is.

It hits really hard since it ignores resiststances, it hit's in an aoe and then gives you 16 seconds of ignoring everyones resistances. And since all stam players have major evasion now it means dawnbreaker will be less popular, making more people use this. I really don't think cyro will be a fun place when you have 0 physical resist against every stam player...

what? everyone's resistance?

so if it hits 3 people, all 3 got 0 resist for 16 sec? that can't be right and against the tooltips.

Crixus8000 wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

what? everyone's resistance?

so if it hits 3 people, all 3 got 0 resist for 16 sec? that can't be right and against the tooltips.

It gives you penetration equal to the amount ignored, so as long as you don't hit the squishy light armor user it means you have enough pen to ignore everyones resists for 16 seconds, at least that's how it should work.

Imagine this ult with master 2h and cleave for example lol.

that's my build lol.... just add Onslaught on the backbar together with Carve and the Master Great Axe.

Just remove the resistance gain from the ultimate and lower penetration timer to like 8 or 10 seconds.

If it behaves the same as current onslaught if you miss you don't get anything. All it takes is a dodge and you lost everything and have to build up all that ULT again. That being said I will be using it over DB ; ).

Minno wrote: »

some of you don't block the big boy burst lol.

the issue is the buff, not the initial attack. pay attention.

Vortigaunt wrote: »

Just revert the change. We already have corrosive wrecking havoc. Why add corrosive 2.0? It’s like adding a buffed version of fury that stacks up to 1000 wep dmg instead....

i get the feeling none of the devs have ever played a stamdk at a decent level, or have played against a good one. corrosive isn't exactly OP (it is expensive), but it's in a very good spot right now because 12 seconds of full pen is a huge damage boost in pvp. now we're giving another 4 seconds to people for less ult? :thinking:

this whole patch is weird as heck

edit: also, while corrosive is good, as cheap as this ult is, i will be considering dropping corrosive for the 2h ult. this shouldn't really be the case. corrosive should clearly be the better choice given it's cost and the fact that it's a class ult, but it isn't. the dot is very weak, and the mitigation doesn't mean a whole lot in a dot meta or vs multiple attackers. there are certainly situations where i would take an extra 4 seconds of full pen vs the mitigation of corrosive, for less cost.

Davadin wrote: »

Abhaya wrote: »

If it behaves the same as current onslaught if you miss you don't get anything. All it takes is a dodge and you lost everything and have to build up all that ULT again. That being said I will be using it over DB ; ).

Vortigaunt wrote: »

Abhaya wrote: »

If it behaves the same as current onslaught if you miss you don't get anything. All it takes is a dodge and you lost everything and have to build up all that ULT again. That being said I will be using it over DB ; ).

Nobody misses 2h ult on live. You stun > 2h ult, you don’t just throw your ult randomly.

in all my years in Cyrodiil, in a big crazy chaotic fight, i've only witnessed fewer than 5 people ever DODGED a 2H ulti ev...... thats because yes, they got stunned, whether it's by themselves or others. Either way, it's all about timing it.

I’ve missed it a few times when I hit a CC and hit R and... it doesn’t go off. Then I smash the button three more times but by then it’s too late. Also if your CC is on the opposite bar like if you are using reverb the time it takes to bar swap is just enough for the enemy to break free and dodge if they are really fast.