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PTS is looking good. Balance is headed in the right direction.
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I hardly play this game anymore. Therefore, I don't really have a main class nor especially clear bias. (We're all guilty to some degree tho).
From a BG/PVP/DUEL perspective, this PTS without doubt improves balance.
Let's take a break from the rage and cheer zos for their genuine desire for balance.
(...Now if it was up to me, I would remove classes entirely, including class-specific passives, and leave around 50 abilities in total for all players to choose between.
Imagine the work that could be put into making every single one of these 50 abilities useful, unique and enjoyable when you don't have to take class-balance into consideration.
We would have a more competitive game. I am talking about BG's/PvP/Duels here, as I have to admit I have little intereset in PvE. We'd have to modify my proposal here to respect the PvE-players desires too of course. Also, create a dedicated 1v1-arena with an ELO-ranking system where the (now classless) players can truly compete on equal terms. Your normal stats don't matter in the arena. Leave a few variables to still make the game interesting. I suggest that choosing which weapons/skills to slot is enough. These 50 abilities would have to be monitored extremely closely. )
From a BG/PVP/DUEL perspective, this PTS without doubt improves balance.
Let's take a break from the rage and cheer zos for their genuine desire for balance.
(...Now if it was up to me, I would remove classes entirely, including class-specific passives, and leave around 50 abilities in total for all players to choose between.
Imagine the work that could be put into making every single one of these 50 abilities useful, unique and enjoyable when you don't have to take class-balance into consideration.
We would have a more competitive game. I am talking about BG's/PvP/Duels here, as I have to admit I have little intereset in PvE. We'd have to modify my proposal here to respect the PvE-players desires too of course. Also, create a dedicated 1v1-arena with an ELO-ranking system where the (now classless) players can truly compete on equal terms. Your normal stats don't matter in the arena. Leave a few variables to still make the game interesting. I suggest that choosing which weapons/skills to slot is enough. These 50 abilities would have to be monitored extremely closely. )
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✭✭yeah no this patch is going in the exact opposite of balance and in the wrong directionXbox One - NA GT: RebornV3x
I also play on PC from time to time but I just wanna be left alone on there so sorry.10 -
pdeb360✭✭✭seventyfive wrote: »I hardly play this game anymore. Therefore, I don't really have a main class nor especially clear bias. (We're all guilty to some degree tho).
From a BG/PVP/DUEL perspective, this PTS without doubt improves balance.
Let's take a break from the rage and cheer zos for their genuine desire for balance.
(...Now if it was up to me, I would remove classes entirely, including class-specific passives, and leave around 50 abilities in total for all players to choose between.
Imagine the work that could be put into making every single one of these 50 abilities useful, unique and enjoyable when you don't have to take class-balance into consideration.
We would have a more competitive game. I am talking about BG's/PvP/Duels here, as I have to admit I have little intereset in PvE. We'd have to modify my proposal here to respect the PvE-players desires too of course. Also, create a dedicated 1v1-arena with an ELO-ranking system where the (now classless) players can truly compete on equal terms. Your normal stats don't matter in the arena. Leave a few variables to still make the game interesting. I suggest that choosing which weapons/skills to slot is enough. These 50 abilities would have to be monitored extremely closely. )
How much do u get paid? U never did a proper raid like HM Sunspire.8 -
OnThaLoose✭✭✭No this patch is ass backwards... Trash.
Of course a pvp'er loves the patch.. smh.
Heres an idea for ZoS, to solve the pve vs pvp balance issue. Take everything changed in this patch, apply it to battle spirit, and focus the remainder of PTS solving actually gameplay issues.. Problem solved. every pvper is happy, and every pve'er remains happy.8 -
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✭✭✭✭✭OnThaLoose wrote: »No this patch is ass backwards... Trash.
Of course a pvp'er loves the patch.. smh.
Heres an idea for ZoS, to solve the pve vs pvp balance issue. Take everything changed in this patch, apply it to battle spirit, and focus the remainder of PTS solving actually gameplay issues.. Problem solved. every pvper is happy, and every pve'er remains happy.
Every PvPer isn't happy. I'll put any hardmode trial healing up against 50 players chasing a group of 12 in terms of healing needed to survive any day. Raids in PvP used AoE healing too, and this isn't a welcome change, but most aren't treating it as a death sentence, and that's the difference.0 -
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✭seventyfive wrote: »From a BG/PVP/DUEL perspective
I stopped reading there.
Yeah after just reading that you know it's a bunch of bs.4 -
seventyfive✭✭✭MehrunesFlagon wrote: »seventyfive wrote: »From a BG/PVP/DUEL perspective
I stopped reading there.
Yeah after just reading that you know it's a bunch of bs.
Opinions which do not agree with yours aren't simply disagreeing opinions. They are in fact bs.
You are superior.
Kind regards,
seventyfiveEdited by seventyfive on July 10, 2019 11:45AM1 -
luen79rwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Some nice data, parses and tests backing up your claims... Not!
Not even close since you don't play the game as you saidPC/DC/NAserver
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✭✭✭✭✭luen79rwb17_ESO wrote: »Some nice data, parses and tests backing up your claims... Not!
Not even close since you don't play the game as you said
Yea we don't have any parses and none comparing then to videos showing the combat situations. But the eso community always does this each patch anyway so it's no wonder feedback from the forums is generally ignored and filtered through the reps.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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✭✭The thing is about timed, especially about trifectas. Those achievements were tied to the huge amount of aoe damage the game had. Will there be rebalancing of times?
Duels are irrelevant and BGs are such a small fraction of them game which is also near irrelevant.
OP knows nothing.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Some changes are nice, but I see a lot that are simply terrible.
Like WW for example. Some o the nerfs I can understand. But what ZOS have done to Pack Leader is simple unacceptable.
I wonder what was their direction. To have only viable morph ? So far it look that is their goal.
Because if changes go live, this is what is going to happen. Literally NO one in a right mind wont use Pack Leader, no mater the type of content (PvP, PvE, Solo or Group). Hell this morph will even disappear from overland content & questing...
It is this bad.0
