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One hand and shield weapon changes are ridiculous
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Put✭✭✭Now all of the S&B robots might actually figure out they've been lied to for the past 2 years because they actually aren't good players lmao.
Imagine thinking it was ok for S&B to be the strongest damage in PvP while still being the tankiest hahahahaha8 -
Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Now all of the S&B robots might actually figure out they've been lied to for the past 2 years because they actually aren't good players lmao.
Imagine thinking it was ok for S&B to be the strongest damage in PvP while still being the tankiest hahahahaha
Most of the people using SnB are actually good players. You take away their sword and shield and they will still whoop your a$$. They only used it because it was the most optimal setup, not because they're bad.15 -
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭no idea what makes people thing S/B will not be able to hit hard and dps good, i mean just look at Power Slam, it is going to be the best single target spammable outside surprise attack. and deep slash is going to be steel tornado strength with a 30% snare on it, that is going to awesome.
already thinking about trying out s/b front bar on my stam sorc orc in pve, with power slash as a spammable and soul trap instead of rending slashes, with deep slash as an aoe spammable.7 -
Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Only feeling happier about S & B Changes,
Its not a DPS skill line, people need to understand its for Tanking!1 -
Lylith✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭DreadDaedroth wrote: »I hope they come back to their sense.
i wouldn't hold my breath.
they're more likely to double down on hamfisted.
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Ivan04✭✭✭✭I don't disagree that heroic slash was an overly stacked buff, but doing all this to the SnB weapon skillline is the good ol' "hammer not a chisel" approach that nobody appreciates.3 -
Xsorus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Huge nerf to Stam Dkshttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
ESO and GW2 PvP videos3 -
Xsorus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Eomer wrote: »
problem is Dizzy Swing sucks complete ass in pvp because of latency, and yes I know they decreased it..it'll still suck ass
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
ESO and GW2 PvP videos3 -
Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lord_Eomer wrote: »
problem is Dizzy Swing sucks complete ass in pvp because of latency, and yes I know they decreased it..it'll still suck ass
Its improved, even damage got buff and 2H Axe is more viable again
Give it a go when PTS comes aliveEdited by Lord_Eomer on July 7, 2019 6:38PM2 -
ssewallb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Removing yet another source of defile is actually a net buff to tank meta, Stam DK especially. While this can be made to work, it feels like mostly another exercise in ability standardization bean-counting that's been a recurring theme in the last several patches, while not really providing any benefit to gameplay.3 -
Put✭✭✭Now all of the S&B robots might actually figure out they've been lied to for the past 2 years because they actually aren't good players lmao.
Imagine thinking it was ok for S&B to be the strongest damage in PvP while still being the tankiest hahahahaha
Most of the people using SnB are actually good players. You take away their sword and shield and they will still whoop your a$$. They only used it because it was the most optimal setup, not because they're bad.
I don't doubt there's a good few talented players using it. I don't use it but I try not to blame them for using it.
But I'm fairly confident that at least 60% of people who have only used S&B aren't very good good players. It has a low skill ceiling imo.0 -
HEBREWHAMMERRR✭✭✭✭✭Pretty happy for this, it’s definitely the back bone of the tank meta. All around like the changes. Eclipse might be a bit over buffed though.3
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IronWooshu✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lol SnB got buffed. Good players know why.
Why? Good players now are gonna cheese Defensive Posture's morph Absorb Missle?
Doesnt take good players to realize a new cheese incoming and see the entire playstyle for SnB is complete trash now in PVP except for a buff in Defensive Posture for Magic Users mostly.Edited by IronWooshu on July 7, 2019 11:40PM0 -
msalvia✭✭✭✭Thank goodness they managed to nerf unbalanced pvp SnB while not screwing up pve tanking. Finally, if you want to do damage you need to use an offensive weapon. Pvp is gonna actually be fun again!2 -
Ivan04✭✭✭✭Here's another important think - removing defile from Reverberation Bash is simply going to oush the tank meta even more, which is extremely ridiculous right now. BGs are basically going to become as bad as CP BGs once were. It's the same way as it was in Wolfhunter - back then it felt like Battle Spirit went up from 50% to 75%, not even kidding.0
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Aedaryl✭✭✭✭✭
✭Power slam is the new spammable, the warrior guild instant cast undodgeable unblockable Aoe fear is the stun and heroic slash is a utility skill that you refresh for it's buff.
Don't forget to be a bashtard.
S&B is not overperforming anymore but it still a good Choice since it's the only Stam weapon with an instant cast high damage spammable.2 -
master_vanargand✭✭✭✭✭
✭We don't want to use power slam as a pvp spammable. It's completely nonsensical. For all I care, even if it would hit for 10k in pvp I wouldn't like it, because it's unrealistic, and there would not be any more snb weaving.
Humans die when beat head with the shield.
I experienced in reality and died.3 -
Ivan04✭✭✭✭they're making the healing meta more burst-oriented and less hot-oriented, I wonder if that is why they wanted to remove the defile from reverb, since it would remove much larger chunks of healing0
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Put✭✭✭Here's another important think - removing defile from Reverberation Bash is simply going to oush the tank meta even more, which is extremely ridiculous right now. BGs are basically going to become as bad as CP BGs once were. It's the same way as it was in Wolfhunter - back then it felt like Battle Spirit went up from 50% to 75%, not even kidding.
People are allowed to be tanks. So long as they are fine with doing little damage. At least this patch is cutting out a lot of damage for turtle tanks1 -
Yuke✭✭✭✭✭SnB was overperforming for a long time ... but mostly with a combination of Fury/Heritance/Seventh as Sets. Those Sets got gutted on top of the SnB nerfs... so dont know how i feel about it. Sounds like a bit too much but time will tell....
Im still looking forward to come back again (hopefully with my guild mates that left long time ago because of the abysmal server performance) and to figure out a new approach to sDKs.0 -
Ivan04✭✭✭✭I keep thinking about how I would have balanced it, if I had a less biased opinion
It a way, they are reducing the cost on all snb abilities, including reverb bash, so, technically, if you switched to deep slash you could do more damage, but only against beginner players, since everyone else just outheals rather easily, not being affected by a heal reduction of any kind.0 -
validifyedneb18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭1. Weapon swapping to instantly turn into a tank in PVP is/was/probably-will-continue-to-be *** stupid
2. The previous updates to weapon skills and enchantments made S/B comparatively over-perform in DPSEU: Magden, Magknight, Stamsorc(*2), Magsorc
NA: Magplar, Magden, PotatoBlade1
