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Papachico
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They removed instead of locked my post containing some parts of the "leaked" patch notes. For me this proves the notes are not meant to be released yet and thus are actually real. If it would be just a troll they wouldn't act so seriously on posts with trolling content.
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  • satanio
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    maybe preventing mass hysteria? :D
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  • ryzen_gamer_gal
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    spreading rumors must be a violation of TOS somewhere?
  • khajiitNPC
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    Yeah but they’d just close the thread an not delete it.
  • frostz417
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    No doubt they’re real
  • Vercingetorix
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    Papachico wrote: »
    They removed instead of locked my post containing some parts of the "leaked" patch notes. For me this proves the notes are not meant to be released yet and thus are actually real. If it would be just a troll they wouldn't act so seriously on posts with trolling content.

    To be fair, that document is being passed off as ZoS' official information despite not being officially released by ZoS themselves. In order to prevent a spread of misinformation and a bunch of new forum posts from what could easily be made-up patch notes, ZoS is removing any copies of that document from their website since it's obviously not an official release by them.
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  • RogueShark
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    When correct information has been leaked in the past (like massive spoilers of Elsweyr, etc), the posts were left up and ignored.
    So them deleting your post is not 'evidence', it's further speculation.
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  • Ackwalan
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    If they were real, ZOS would remove them. If they were fake, ZOS would remove them. I'm surprised they left it up so long.
  • Papachico
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    Papachico wrote: »
    They removed instead of locked my post containing some parts of the "leaked" patch notes. For me this proves the notes are not meant to be released yet and thus are actually real. If it would be just a troll they wouldn't act so seriously on posts with trolling content.

    To be fair, that document is being passed off as ZoS' official information despite not being officially released by ZoS themselves. In order to prevent a spread of misinformation and a bunch of new forum posts from what could easily be made-up patch notes, ZoS is removing any copies of that document from their website since it's obviously not an official release by them.

    Well this is a forum it should be open for discussion. If it's a troll they should have a laugh about it. If these are they real patch notes that got leaked act to it. Don't act like the Germans did in the past "wir haben es nicht gewusst".
  • BigBragg
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    All speculation and conjecture at this point.
  • ZonasArch
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    Can't argue with your logic... Mostly because your logic isn't logic at all. 🙃

    Have a great day :)
  • ryzen_gamer_gal
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    esp since speculation and conjecture are synonyms?
  • Eraldus
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    Them deleting these threads could mean that:

    -The leaked patch notes were fake and they removed it to keep people from spreading misinformation and overreacting to something that's not even real.

    -The leaked patch notes were true and they removed it to keep people from overreacting before Monday.

    So it could literally mean anything, and you people should just wait for the official patch notes to be released, before losing your sleep.
    Edited by Eraldus on July 6, 2019 9:39PM
  • Papachico
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    Eraldus wrote: »
    They deleting these threads could mean that:

    -The leaked patch notes were fake and they removed it to keep people from spreading misinformation and overreacting to something that's not even real.

    -The leaked patch notes were true and they removed it to keep people from overreacting before Monday.

    So it could literally mean anything, and you people should just wait for the official patch notes to be released, before losing your sleep.

    Maybe but since when do they care at all what has been said on the forum? They never act to it so for me this is just suspicious and in a certain way unprofessional from their part.
  • ZonasArch
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    Eraldus wrote: »
    They deleting these threads could mean that:

    -The leaked patch notes were fake and they removed it to keep people from spreading misinformation and overreacting to something that's not even real.

    -The leaked patch notes were true and they removed it to keep people from overreacting before Monday.

    So it could literally mean anything, and you people should just wait for the official patch notes to be released, before losing your sleep.

    Thank you!
  • ZonasArch
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    Papachico wrote: »
    Eraldus wrote: »
    They deleting these threads could mean that:

    -The leaked patch notes were fake and they removed it to keep people from spreading misinformation and overreacting to something that's not even real.

    -The leaked patch notes were true and they removed it to keep people from overreacting before Monday.

    So it could literally mean anything, and you people should just wait for the official patch notes to be released, before losing your sleep.

    Maybe but since when do they care at all what has been said on the forum? They never act to it so for me this is just suspicious and in a certain way unprofessional from their part.

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  • Elsonso
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    Well, real or fake, ZOS is able to collect information from players on what they think of the changes. This may give them ideas, or whatever, for future changes. Leaving the threads up for a bit of time certainly facilitates this.
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  • Edaphon
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    The forum moderators most likely haven't even seen the real patch notes yet and have no idea if what you posted was real or fake.

    But sure, it's "evidence".

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  • BigBragg
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    esp since speculation and conjecture are synonyms?


    There is often a reason why we have different words. Frequently it is because they don't mean the same thing.

    https://wikidiff.com/speculate/conjecture
  • Oliwaltony
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    I was reading on the several posts when they all got taken down at the same times. If this isnt censure I dont know what is. I got able to read most of it but would have loved to see a bit more about it. Anyway, we'll see soon enough. Till then, no builds upgrading for me, wont be wasting my time for sure. This is really wrong. Changes has to occurs, I get it, but damn its annoying to change build after build after build because ZOS cannot do a good job on their own the first time around and keep changing their tiny little confused minds all the time. Take more time, work hard, test sh*ts more than 4 weeks, BALANCE everything, separate skills in pvp from pve, and dont release it untill it freacking WORKS.
  • BomblePants
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    I doubt they’ve deleted it to stop people overreacting.... the amount of way over the top overreacting on this forum could not be any more dramatic than it already is....
  • danthemann5
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    Gina posted in a discord somewhere that they are fake and she's posting the real ones later this evening.
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  • Oliwaltony
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    Gina posted in a discord somewhere that they are fake and she's posting the real ones later this evening.

    link? To the discord channel I mean.
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    Gina posted in a discord somewhere that they are fake and she's posting the real ones later this evening.

    Why would she post them this evening when they’re supposed to come out on Monday? Makes no sense
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    I mean- if Gina posts the real patch notes two days early in order to squash fake patch notes- it’s only going to encourage the trolls to post fake patch notes more often...
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  • Sanguinor2
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    frostz417 wrote: »
    Why would she post them this evening when they’re supposed to come out on Monday? Makes no sense

    To put an end to speculation if I were to guess.
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    Edit: I don't have discord info, all I have is the screen cap.
    Edited by danthemann5 on July 6, 2019 10:56PM
    ZeniMax has no obligation to correct any errors or defects in the Services.

    Greetings! We've closed this thread due to its non-constructive nature.

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    😂😂😂 no way that’s Real
    Edited by frostz417 on July 6, 2019 10:56PM
  • idk
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    Papachico wrote: »
    If it would be just a troll they wouldn't act so seriously on posts with trolling content.

    Forum moderators do not troll. Zos removes threads they deem total absurd.

    So what you offer is nothing close to proof. Merely speculation about speculation.
  • ZonasArch
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    I mean- if Gina posts the real patch notes two days early in order to squash fake patch notes- it’s only going to encourage the trolls to post fake patch notes more often...

    I agree with this. Squash the fakes as hard as you can and wait until Monday.
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