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Both Monster Helm set bonuses for ScaleBreaker
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Moongrave Fane: - As Epic Quality.
The Grundwulf:
(1 Items) 804 Weapon Critical, 804 Spell Critical
(2 Items) Whenever you deal Critical Damage, restore 965 Magicka or Stamina, whichever is higher. You also gain 483 of the other resource. This effect can occur once every 5 seconds.
Lair of Maarselok: - As Legendary Quality.
Maarselok:
(1 Items) 1058 Maximum Stamina.
(2 Items) When you bash an enemy, you spew a cone of corruption, dealing 8000 Disease Damage to enemies. The damage is increasefd by 5% for each negaticve effect the enemies have, up to 150% additional damage. This effect can occure once every 7 seconds.
Edited by Blackbird_V on July 3, 2019 11:11PM The Grundwulf:
(1 Items) 804 Weapon Critical, 804 Spell Critical
(2 Items) Whenever you deal Critical Damage, restore 965 Magicka or Stamina, whichever is higher. You also gain 483 of the other resource. This effect can occur once every 5 seconds.
Lair of Maarselok: - As Legendary Quality.
Maarselok:
(1 Items) 1058 Maximum Stamina.
(2 Items) When you bash an enemy, you spew a cone of corruption, dealing 8000 Disease Damage to enemies. The damage is increasefd by 5% for each negaticve effect the enemies have, up to 150% additional damage. This effect can occure once every 7 seconds.
Difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 9 years. 6 paid expansions. 25 DLCs. 41 game changing updates including A Realm Reborn-tier overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver&Gold as a "you think you do but you don't"-tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game.
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✭✭✭✭✭Moongrave looks great for magclasses especially for content where you need to roll-dodge a lot.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »Moongrave looks great for magclasses especially for content where you need to roll-dodge a lot.
Would look good with a CD of 1s or maybe 2s. But 5s? Not so much.
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✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »Moongrave looks great for magclasses especially for content where you need to roll-dodge a lot.
Would look good with a CD of 1s or maybe 2s. But 5s? Not so much.
This is a like add 450+ regen and this so nice i think.PC/EU0 -
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✭✭✭✭zadrotscrolls wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »Moongrave looks great for magclasses especially for content where you need to roll-dodge a lot.
Would look good with a CD of 1s or maybe 2s. But 5s? Not so much.
This is a like add 450+ regen and this so nice i think.
965÷5 = 193/s, or 386 regen equivalent.
Two one piece regen buffs would be 258 regen.
Flat regen is modified by armor and cp, so 258 x 1.(15 for 5 medium/light, 11 for cp, and .2 for major buff from potions) = 376.7. If you need the off resource (pvp and mag in pve) it's not a bad option at all, but it only outstrips one of each regen at pure 100% uptime. Drop that to 95 (just 5% downtime) and you get 367 (rounded up) regen equivalent.5 -
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???Seraphayel wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »Moongrave looks great for magclasses especially for content where you need to roll-dodge a lot.
Would look good with a CD of 1s or maybe 2s. But 5s? Not so much.
If the set had a 1 sec cooldown it would essentially be 2000 main stat recovery and 1000 off stat recovery.... from a 2pc set no less lol.0 -
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✭✭DocFrost72 wrote: »zadrotscrolls wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »Moongrave looks great for magclasses especially for content where you need to roll-dodge a lot.
Would look good with a CD of 1s or maybe 2s. But 5s? Not so much.
This is a like add 450+ regen and this so nice i think.
965÷5 = 193/s, or 386 regen equivalent.
Two one piece regen buffs would be 258 regen.
Flat regen is modified by armor and cp, so 258 x 1.(15 for 5 medium/light, 11 for cp, and .2 for major buff from potions) = 376.7. If you need the off resource (pvp and mag in pve) it's not a bad option at all, but it only outstrips one of each regen at pure 100% uptime. Drop that to 95 (just 5% downtime) and you get 367 (rounded up) regen equivalent.
You’re forgetting the 1pc crit you get, so no the two aren’t equal, even at 95% uptime. Especially for PvE.
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???Seraphayel wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »Moongrave looks great for magclasses especially for content where you need to roll-dodge a lot.
Would look good with a CD of 1s or maybe 2s. But 5s? Not so much.
If the set had a 1 sec cooldown it would essentially be 2000 main stat recovery and 1000 off stat recovery.... from a 2pc set no less lol.
It’s still a monster set with plenty of other options. Don’t know if you’d use a monster set if you need recovery. The 1s was more of a joke but 5s as a CD seems too much to warrant wearing this set just for main stat plus off stat regen. Bad set? No. Great set? No. Middle of the road in my opinion.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -1 -
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✭✭✭✭DocFrost72 wrote: »zadrotscrolls wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »Moongrave looks great for magclasses especially for content where you need to roll-dodge a lot.
Would look good with a CD of 1s or maybe 2s. But 5s? Not so much.
This is a like add 450+ regen and this so nice i think.
965÷5 = 193/s, or 386 regen equivalent.
Two one piece regen buffs would be 258 regen.
Flat regen is modified by armor and cp, so 258 x 1.(15 for 5 medium/light, 11 for cp, and .2 for major buff from potions) = 376.7. If you need the off resource (pvp and mag in pve) it's not a bad option at all, but it only outstrips one of each regen at pure 100% uptime. Drop that to 95 (just 5% downtime) and you get 367 (rounded up) regen equivalent.
You’re forgetting the 1pc crit you get, so no the two aren’t equal, even at 95% uptime. Especially for PvE.
If you want regen, no. If you want regen *and*, yes!0 -
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✭Moongrave can be a good addition for Stam-Healer sustain or fun hybrid build (I've start to see some who are pretty good and interesting).
Otherwise it's a decent set but I don't think I would use it as a magicka healer.
Earthgore/Symphony in 4man are still best and Nightflame and warden are best for Trial.
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It's stronger than Amberplasm's 5pc, which is already one of the most stat dense set bonuses in the game. Nuff said.Seraphayel wrote: »
???Seraphayel wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »Moongrave looks great for magclasses especially for content where you need to roll-dodge a lot.
Would look good with a CD of 1s or maybe 2s. But 5s? Not so much.
If the set had a 1 sec cooldown it would essentially be 2000 main stat recovery and 1000 off stat recovery.... from a 2pc set no less lol.
It’s still a monster set with plenty of other options. Don’t know if you’d use a monster set if you need recovery. The 1s was more of a joke but 5s as a CD seems too much to warrant wearing this set just for main stat plus off stat regen. Bad set? No. Great set? No. Middle of the road in my opinion.0 -
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✭✭The 1st one looks like a solid regen set. I like it, finally a proper alternative to Engine Guardian. Symphony of blades is useless due to the simple fact that it doesn't proc on yourself.
The 2nd one will be yet another set that will break pvp. At this point you have to think they do it on purpose. LET THE UPROAR BEGIN!!!Edited by MaxJrFTW on July 4, 2019 12:23AM"I don't know you, and I don't care to know you."
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✭✭✭✭✭The second set is so disturbing not only because of the Necromancer bash disaster but because of tanks performance in PvP in general. What they really did not need was a ton of AoE damage every 7s on top of their incredible tankiness and healing capabilities. Tanks don’t need to be the allrounder gods this set will make them.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭JamieAubrey wrote: »Lair of Maarselok + Necro Bash x VD set = KABLAMO
i doubt the aoe bash will apply the effect to multiple enemies at once but only oneEdited by Nemesis7884 on July 4, 2019 12:54AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Maarselok seems very strong. Propably it can be new PvE meta for stam DDs if nothing gets changed and there is no catch in its description.Edited by Juhasow on July 4, 2019 2:33AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Valkyn_Eltrys wrote: »Moongrave Fane: - As Epic Quality.
The Grundwulf:
(1 Items) 804 Weapon Critical, 804 Spell Critical
(2 Items) Whenever you deal Critical Damage, restore 965 Magicka or Stamina, whichever is higher. You also gain 483 of the other resource. This effect can occur once every 5 seconds.
Lair of Maarselok: - As Legendary Quality.
Maarselok:
(1 Items) 1058 Maximum Stamina.
(2 Items) When you bash an enemy, you spew a cone of corruption, dealing 8000 Disease Damage to enemies. The damage is increasefd by 5% for each negaticve effect the enemies have, up to 150% additional damage. This effect can occure once every 7 seconds.
These look really nice. Hats off to the developer who came up with these.0 -
frozzzen101✭✭✭✭Maarselok looks possibly to be new bis for good stamina dds in trials where getting 30 negative effects is possible. But just for dds who can actually take advantage of it and use bashes on cooldown. For your average joe Veli all the way.
Moongrave needs either cooldown reduction or different one piece bonus for me to consider it for pvp purposes.
Likely this dlc won't change anything for me personally. Overall decent sets but nothing earth shattering on first glance.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, those look cool, but it's hard to get excited until we see what kind of hoops we're going to have to jump through to get them.
I'm not buying any more dlc dungeons until ZOS makes them fun to play. No more ridiculously complicated mechanics or dumb one-shots!
Also, can we get a timeline for when these sets are going to appear at the Golden Vendor? @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom could you please comment on this?Edited by Emma_Overload on July 4, 2019 8:49AM#CAREBEARMASTERRACE0 -
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✭✭frozzzen101 wrote: »Maarselok looks possibly to be new bis for good stamina dds in trials where getting 30 negative effects is possible. But just for dds who can actually take advantage of it and use bashes on cooldown. For your average joe Veli all the way.
Moongrave needs either cooldown reduction or different one piece bonus for me to consider it for pvp purposes.
Likely this dlc won't change anything for me personally. Overall decent sets but nothing earth shattering on first glance.
Why proc on Bash?
This will aid more PVP than PVE!0 -
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Why proc on Bash?
This will aid more PVP than PVE!
Honestly, a conditional proc that can be controled but costs resources to use should outdamage general all purpose set like Velidreth. That part I'm okay with except that it increases gap between average and best players.
As for pvp implications, this will be ganker tool. Nothing more. Won't bother doing math, but Balorgh is still good option for ult ganking while this is good for getting burst when not using ulti. You won't burst decent player without ult most likely so this will be griefing procset at best to burst PvE guys, scrubs, newcomers to pvp or people who don't have proper build. And decent players who can use combo and bash cancel part of their burst will likely stick with Bloodspawn anyway so this shouldn't be a concern in my book.0
